12/05/2002 Entry: "By Bushes own policy, he must be immediatly terminated"

By Bushes Own
Policy, He Must Be Immediatly Terminated
No Trial, No Explanation, No Warning - Just Immediate Obliteration

Bush must be killed

By the administration’s own policy, both Bushes must be immediately destroyed. No trial, no explanation, no warning - Just immediate obliteration.

According to White House officials the President’s policy is that “association” alone, with ANY suspected Al Queda or terrorist, is sufficient enough justification for immediate extermination by the CIA or US military.

Yet there is NO other family in America today who has had closer ties with the Bin Ladens than the Bush family. And that bears repeating.


For over thirty years the Bush family has forged extensive secretive and extraordinarily suspicious dealings with the Bin Ladens. Starting with Bin Laden’s father and brother who gave millions of dollars of cash to George Bush Jr so that he may buy a company and promptly drive it straight into the ground (While extracting delirious personal profits - sound familiar?)

No other Americans have ever had closer “associations” with the Bin Ladens. So frightened is Bush that the true nature of his secret links with the bin Ladens will be exposed that he will expend NO LIMIT of US taxpayers resources and military might to cover up, obfuscate and in Bin Laden's case, obliterate any trace of his suspicious past with the terrorists. He's hiding something folks.

So suspicious are the circumstances surrounding the deaths of both Bin Laden’s father and brother in two different plane crashes, (both in, guess which state? - Texas) that it is no wonder why the younger Osama seems to harbor a "special" dislike for Bush and it is no wonder why Bush has become so consumed with the destruction of this set up fall guy.

Bush's wishy washy quixotic focus on first, this one man, Osama Bin Laden, then the shift over to the perpetual war and then the focus on Iraq is TELLING THE WHOLE STORY. The childish, vague and frankly insulting concept of a war on "evildoers," which will of course entail a massive crackdown on law abiding American citizens and could go on forever reveals what's really going on. COUPLE THAT WITH THE NEW IMPROVED "ELECTRONIC" VOTING MACHINES WHICH FEATURE ZERO AUDITABILITY AND ARE MANUFACTURED BY ULTRA RIGHTWING HIGHLY SECRETIVE INSIDE CORPORATIONS AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS CALLED A FASCIST DICTATORSHIP.

So lets all hope that some brave CIA or military unit will be successful in this mission which is critical to the safety and security of the American people and complete their mission to find Bush and his father and rid us of these two terrorist "assoCIAtors." After all - It's Bushes own policy.


Below is the associated press article outlining the administrations total destruction of any resemblance to the great constitutional nation that the US once was. It represents nothing less than the death of Democracy - It represents the death of America.

Since there is no due process in America any longer, Bush can simply claim, for example, that Voxnyc was working for Al Queda, and since there is no requirement for trials and zero due process that means he may simply kill any political opponent any time any where and say that that opponent was a terrorist and that he has "proof"... but you can't see that proof because of "national security" reasons.

We will see a massive increase of political assassinations in the United States (More than there already have been since this lying, immoral, idiot and his cabal of war profiteerers seized the Presidency.)

Here's the article that the slime at the assoCIAted press shovelled.

U.S. Can Target (Kill) Americans (Anytime Anywhere)

WASHINGTON (AP) - American citizens... can legally be targeted and killed by the CIA under President Bush's rules for the war on terrorism, U.S. officials say.

The authority to kill U.S. citizens is granted under a secret finding signed by the president after the Sept. 11 attacks that directs the CIA to covertly attack al-Qaida anywhere in the world. The authority makes no exception for Americans, so permission to strike them is understood rather than specifically described, officials said.

These officials said the authority will be used only when other options are unavailable. Military-like strikes will take place only when law enforcement and internal security efforts by allied foreign countries fail, the officials said.

Capturing and questioning al-Qaida operatives is preferable, even more so if an operative is a U.S. citizen, the officials said, speaking on the condition of anonymity. Any decision to strike an American will be made at the highest levels, perhaps by the president.

U.S. officials say few Americans are working with al-Qaida but they have no specific estimates.

The CIA already has killed one American under this authority, although U.S. officials maintain he wasn't the target.

On Nov. 3, a CIA-operated Predator drone fired a missile that destroyed a carload of suspected al-Qaida operatives in Yemen. The target of the attack, a Yemeni named Qaed Salim Sinan al-Harethi, was the top al-Qaida operative in that country. Efforts by Yemeni authorities to detain him had previously failed.

But the CIA didn't know a U.S. citizen, Yemeni-American Kamal Derwish, was in the car. He died, along with al-Harethi and four other Yemenis.

The Bush administration said the killing of an American in this fashion was legal.

``I can assure you that no constitutional questions are raised here. There are authorities that the president can give to officials,'' said Condoleezza Rice, Bush's national security adviser, after the attack. ``He's well within the balance of accepted practice and the letter of his constitutional authority.''

American authorities have alleged that Derwish was the leader of an al-Qaida cell in suburban Buffalo, N.Y. Most of the alleged members of the cell were arrested and charged with supporting terrorists, but Derwish was not accused of any crime in American courts.

Family members in Buffalo say they have yet to be contacted by the U.S. government about Derwish's death, which they learned about through media reports.

Mohamed Albanna, vice president of the American Muslim Council's Buffalo chapter, urged federal authorities to confirm the death.

``It's just a matter of common respect for the family here. After all, they are U.S. citizens.'' He added that Derwish ``has not been tried and has not been found guilty, so, in that sense, he's still an innocent American who was killed. That's what the law states.''

The Bush administration sees it differently. In killing him, the administration defined Derwish as an enemy combatant, the equivalent of a U.S. citizen who fights with the enemy on a battlefield, officials said. Under this legal definition, experts say, his constitutional rights are nullified and he can be killed outright.

Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, supported this policy. ``A U.S. citizen terrorist will kill you just like somebody from another country.''

The government has done little publicly to justify Derwish's killing. Officials have privately suggested his association with al-Harethi is reason enough.

Other Americans have been similarly classed since Sept. 11, including Jose Padilla, accused of plotting to use a radioactive ``dirty bomb'' in the United States, and Yaser Esam Hamdi, who was found fighting with the Taliban in Afghanistan. Both are in military custody.

However, a third American, John Walker Lindh, was turned over to the civilian courts after being found serving as a foot soldier with the Taliban. He was sentenced to 20 years in prison after pleading guilty to supplying services to the Taliban and carrying explosives in commission of a felony.

While officials believe only a small number of U.S. citizens went through Osama bin Laden's camps, Americans have been associated with all levels of al-Qaida.

This includes high-level operative Wadih El Hage, a Lebanese-American who was convicted in connection with the 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa. A former U.S. Army soldier, Ali Mohamed, worked as a trainer and target scout for bin Laden before he was captured and convicted.

Previously, the government's authority to kill a citizen outside of the judicial process has been generally restricted to when the American is directly threatening the lives of other Americans or their allies.

Earlier presidential authorizations of lethal covert action, in Latin America and elsewhere, have also tacitly allowed the killing of Americans fighting with the other side, former senior intelligence officials said.

But the officials knew of no instances where U.S. citizens were targeted.

The CIA declines comment on covert actions and the authorities it operates under.

Experts on the Constitution and the international laws of war said the Bush administration's definitions create problems.

Unlike the enemy in previous wars, al-Qaida members don't wear uniforms or serve in a foreign nation's army. Nor do they take to traditional battlefields, except in Afghanistan. But the Bush administration and al-Qaida together have defined the entire world as a battlefield - meaning the attack on al-Harethi and Derwish was tantamount to an air strike in a combat zone.

``That is the most vulnerable aspect of the theory,'' said Scott L. Silliman, director of Duke University's Center on Law, Ethics and National Security. ``Could you put a Hellfire missile into a car in Washington, D.C., under the same theory? The answer is yes, you could.''

Human rights groups were divided on the legality of the attack on al-Harethi. Amnesty International suggested it was an extrajudicial killing, outlawed by international treaty, while Human Rights Watch officials said they believed it was a legitimate wartime action.

Associated Press Writer Ben Dobbin in Rochester, N.Y., contributed to this story.

12/03/02 19:42

Viewer Commentary: 121 comments

vox, if you ever need to hide out somewhere overseas let me know! power to the vox!

Posted by ewar @ 12/05/2002 02:13 AM EST

Are you worried about any reprisal for this posting? Did you read the article about the Swiss declaring the bin Laden tape a fake? How do you keep your identity anonymous? Please let me know.

Posted by Raul @ 12/05/2002 03:36 AM EST

raul - they already know who vox is.they know who we all are.

can anyone tell me whats happened to rumourmillnews.com ? im sure "they" could but wont -

Posted by hausigaarn ? @ 12/05/2002 04:49 AM EST

Vox, you are so right.

Ties through the Carlyle Group, that is.

Ah, the sweet smell of black gold...

Posted by unclock @ 12/05/2002 07:09 AM EST

Divide and conquer, divide and rule and the promotion of fear that you will lose your stuff,your sex object or your life are the tools of the MASTER TYRANTS. Every person ever born on this earth has died, nobody has made it out of here with an intact physical body. Why are most of you afraid of your death ,that you cannot avoid. You will go to heaven, ressurect or reincarnate so why all the terror in your minds and hearts? What kind of sick and distorted lives are you now living, because of massive brainwashing, that makes your citizens hostile and unhealthy. G.W.B. and his gang of PIMPS, PROSTITUTES AND THUGS THRIVE ON CHAOS AND CONFUSION, I Anxiously await for the Republicans, C.I.A., U.S.ARMED FORCES,U.S.POLICE FORCES and F.B.I. to wake up and recognize what they are serving and then clean up the mess.

Posted by Krishna's helper @ 12/05/2002 07:15 AM EST

Dear Vox.
I am the president of a LARGE media company. I am instructing my several employees to archive every inch of your very valuable site. I read your site every morning. If some morning I wake up and your site is no longer here, you have my oath that every single article here will be blasted so mightily throughout the universe that surely EVERYONE will be able to cast their vote and read your work in perpetuity. Your site is simply the very most precious beacon of truth, decency and bravery here in America. A variation on the Scarlet Pimpernel.

I cannot reveal my identity at this time because I will simply face reprisals but I will reveal myself with time.

Stay healthy and alive - your work is very important.

RC Boston, Mass

Posted by RC @ 12/05/2002 08:18 AM EST

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

Posted by Osama bin Bush @ 12/05/2002 08:23 AM EST

I'm sorry...I appreciate the site...it helps keep me sane but it is a tactical blunder to call for anyone's death...your voice is too important now to contribute to your own silencing

Posted by jash101 @ 12/05/2002 08:58 AM EST

hausigaarn, to answer your question, rumormills is back up and running after they were "attacked". it's still at:


Posted by binky @ 12/05/2002 08:59 AM EST

"It is better to die standing up than to live on your knees" - Emiliano Zapata

Problem is most of the sheeple dont understand why their knees and ass hurt so much. They're so used to the pain they've grown to like it and don't even understand the concept of standing up. Evolution is a sham. Devolution is the reality. Bush's lies, corrupt policies, and adherance to the murderous agenda of the oligarchy display the fruits of the devil for all to see.

"Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of the Jahovah's vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence." - Jeremiah 51:6

"And lest your heart faint, and you fear for the report that shall be heard in the land; a report shall both come one year, and after that in another year shall come a report, and violence in the land, ruler against ruler." - Jeremiah 51:46

Posted by MR. ELEVEN @ 12/05/2002 09:01 AM EST

May you live in interesting times.

Posted by Opposing Thumb @ 12/05/2002 09:13 AM EST

For the record killing Bush is NOT the answer. The problem is the corrupt system not any particular individual. We should kill corruption not people. Let's dismantle echelon and the federal reserve for starters.

Posted by MR. ELEVEN @ 12/05/2002 09:24 AM EST

Vox, you're right - you had better watch your site though or you'll get the same shit that raisethefist.com is getting.

Posted by grasshopa @ 12/05/2002 09:41 AM EST

Vox's comment about killing Bush was not given as an "answer."
The article points out that inkeeping with Bushes policy statements, that Bush himself must be exterminated. It's called irony and vox's irony has apparantly seemed to escape you. I think you are missing the point of the article.
Furthermore while, yes, it is laudable to dismantle the "corrupt system" just what do you think the corrupt system is made of? That's right - corrupt men. I doubt very much that the people of Cambodia or Chile would care very much for your abstract notions of a corrupt system. For if one single man, Henry Kissinger, were killed prior to his murdering spree, millions of those murdered people would still be alive today. No Eleven, the solution sometimes is to kill those who are at the top of the chain of command of death - NOT SOME ABSTRACT NOTIONS OF "THE SYSTEM."


Posted by IntelQ @ 12/05/2002 09:45 AM EST

Fair enough IntelQ. But I did not miss the irony of Vox's article. Yes according to Bush's own anti-terror policy he should be "brought to justice" as should many others. I think this shows the problem to be systemic corruption which is my point. Such corruption is typified by echelon, the federal reserve system, and yes Bush's duplicity. What is abstract about that? Whether CIA OPS take action or Bush's policies come to their logical fruition Bush will be held accountable for we are all accountable to the truth.

Posted by MR. ELEVEN @ 12/05/2002 10:19 AM EST

Here's some food for thought: Our security apparatus is claiming incompetence and lack of insight/communication in the matter of foreknowledge of 9/11, yet they claim they "know" and have evidence of Iraqi WMD's. Also, they "know" whom it is they are shooting at with their Predator drones and so forth. My point being, they cannot have it both ways - either they are too incompetent to start wars and unprovoked assassinations based on their intelligence apparatus, or they have intelligence mechanisms in place that did indeed warn them about 9/11 before it happened. Can you grok the conundrum?

Posted by chesnutsroasting @ 12/05/2002 10:48 AM EST

I'll just add that those people in black ops working for the secret government and the oligarchy, many of you know your paymaster is shaping into perhaps the most powerful and corrupt entity in history. You too are destined for the grave and must stand before truth. Don't waist the gift of life bringing the world closer to hell. You have in your grip the power to repent from your dirty deeds. With your knowledge and tallents, you in particular can help us stand like human beings rather than slobbering beasts. Its not too late but you must decide to free yourself from modern Babylon and its workers of iniquity. I'll shut up now.

Posted by MR. ELEVEN @ 12/05/2002 10:53 AM EST

Babylon rules death to the anarchist!May the wheels of mediocrity grind slowly over your empty skulls.

Posted by Finger In Your Eye @ 12/05/2002 11:46 AM EST

Instead of discussing what we all know and some little details here and there -
Let's try to get everyone else out of the closet and face up to the reality of what's really going on.
I am surrounded by too many people who refuse to even question or are too self involved to think they could make a difference.
It's frustrating for me, since time is of the essence. How has everyone else been handling this? Anyone got any ideas on how to approach others without scaring them away with disbelief??

Posted by Heather @ 12/05/2002 12:06 PM EST

When the Moon reach it's 9th vortex, there will be much blood spilled over the Earth. The Earths inner-systems will destroy those who are worthless to the ONE! The illuminati, Vatican, an the rest of the host will have to come out of the darkness, an walk with the people. The people will see the reptile resemblance in these persons an will kill them on site. There will be no escape.

Posted by Sabu @ 12/05/2002 12:56 PM EST

TO chesnutsroasting

How come many people in America simply won't believe that it was their "OWN" American born, white anglo-saxon, power controlled citizens, who mapped the flight paths of those planes, planted the C4 inside the buildings to bring them down demolitioned styled, an suckered punch the American people in beleiving that some Arabs were responsible. In fact, those who are responsible for the terror, is loosing their touch when it comes down to secrecy, they failed to produce the wreckage of the airplane from the Pentagon!?!?! Apparently there must have been a rush job at the coming moments of those planes while airborne. I can see the Vatican all over this one because they own Boeing. What better way to parade power than to use toys from your own shop? The white Americans were the ones who did this operation, an they are prepared to do more! They are prepared to cause serious damage inside their own backyard. Key points: Keep track of Cardinal Egans where abouts! If he leaves the country at the spur of the moment, he is leaving a danger area. Bush seems to go to his ranch in Texas when a operation is about to happen. Colin an Cheney seems to vanish. Also track papa bush an mama bush moves. There are no secrets. Secrets are only real to the closed minded.

Posted by Sabu @ 12/05/2002 01:15 PM EST

Question: Why are people so hung up on plane wreckage at the pentagon? Though I was not there, as far as I can tell it was AA flight 77 as the bellow link seems to prove conclusively. Whether or not it was actually hijacked, remote controlled etc... is another question. Just curious.


Posted by MR. ELEVEN @ 12/05/2002 01:49 PM EST


Posted by MR. ELEVEN @ 12/05/2002 02:16 PM EST

In Texas it matters not what the law says. There it only matters what the law man says. Being accused by the law man in Texas, you are convicted. Trial is only a formality.

The terrorists rule our government, and have declared war on all humanity. They, the Bushs' et al, are power hungry and will never be satisfied. They have, are, and will use all means to distroy our constitution, our laws, rights, security, privacy, health, and our persuit of happyness. They attack us on all fronts by HAARP, Chemtrails, pornography, peodophilia, torture, slavery, disease, vacines, drugs, toxins, drought, storms, floods, GM foods, confiscation of our children and property, assassinations, rules, regulations, terror, medical malpractise, forced sterilizations, etc.

WWIII began immediately after WWII, against the third world. The war against poverty is war against the poor. The war on drugs is run by our leaders to run drugs to/against drug users, to force slavery in prisons and corruption of all levels of society. The war against slavery is to cover up slavery.

WWIV has now been declared against all of us by our governments. They have defined the citizens who would disagree with their rules, lies, and conduct to be "enemy combatants", terrorists. The Jesuit General declared war against the entire world more than 400 years ago. The highest Jesuit oath swares to commit all crimes to force all people to bow to the Jesuit General. Recently G.W.Bush visited the Cardinal in New York, and called the Cardinal's cathedral "the capital of the world." Now G.W. Bush has declared war against the whole world upon which he would impose "democracy",
i.e. fascist (military-corporate), collectivist dictatorship so that Lucifer will own and rule all from Jerusalem.
They (Lucifer, Bush, et. al.) will make the U.S. so loathsome that the U.N. will be "forced" to take over the U.S., and merge it with Mexico and Canada.

There are no more laws here but God's laws. Repent, obay Him, and fight for His Kingdom.

Free Man

Posted by Free Man @ 12/05/2002 02:26 PM EST

to Heather
I have been fairly successful in forwarding articles (not mainstream crap)from many sources to get people to WAKE UP about the Bushes & Co, their long history to business/government--I started from the a simple premise (then people starting reading on their own) "the fruit does not fall far from the tree"--start reading about Poppy Bush's connections to the Eisenhawer WH, the OSS/creation of the CIA, Majestic 12 and of course Zapata offshore oil/drug running, Jack Kennedy,Carter admin, etal. Then on to Dubya's Texas record. It is becoming obvious that complete domination and world government is the big plan-call it sourcing from Illuminati, Jason Society, Trilateral, whatever, it all shakes out to the same rigid view-the few at the top have/keep all the power and the rest of us will be "dealt with" as the police state enforcement increases-this requires gutting our Constitution, constantly terrorizing and traumatizing the public in a "permanent state of fear" (the gestapo..old, but effective tactics) for their survival-sounds like a lethal mixture of "isms" humanity has ALREADY had to fight off-especially in the last century.
I know I have a sense of urgency - but America has become a "grazing culture"-and thus extremely lazy.
Today, I place some faith in the naturally suspicious nature of Americans and our history, at the 11th hour, of embarking upon revolution. Sometimes I feel like a Dorothy watching the hour glass in the tower-so far, I have no intention of surrendering.

Posted by fool on the hill @ 12/05/2002 02:51 PM EST

to Free Man
yes, suggest ALL to google searche (for fast research) on the "Jesuit General/Black Pope" and the US Jesuit Order in D.C. - their pervasive influence - not to offend anyone, but I was raised a Catholic and I do know what the churches leaders are "really up to"--people are always whining about pervasive (financial/media) Jewish influence, well, it would be wise to check out their "masters" to get the full picture.

Posted by foo @ 12/05/2002 03:03 PM EST

Re: the Pentagon plane. Mike just linked his reply.


Posted by G W Gnu @ 12/05/2002 03:11 PM EST

maybe bush is a clone

Posted by puppet of the woods @ 12/05/2002 03:18 PM EST

2006. That is the year I think all hell will break loose. It will begin with the Israel-Palestine covenant of death, which will create a Palestinian state and give all of Jerusalem to Israel. It will be brokered by the European Union, finalized by the Opes Dei member and future antichrist King Juan Carlos. The mideast nations will make a deal with Russia to give them all of the oil if they attack the U.S. and Israel, so they can regain the holy sites in Jerusalem. The U.S. will be nuked hours after the "peace" treaty by Russia. This will mark the beginning of WW3 and Armageddon. A spiritual warfare will come into view between the forces of light and the fallen angels of darkness who are already here in some instances (the reptilians). Read the book "War of the Angels" and make your own conclusion if this is true or not, www.waroftheangels.com.

It will be 7 years of hell on Earth culminating will the most devastating geological changes in Earth's history at the end of 2012. After that who knows what life will be like.

The real war is over you, not oil, or empire. The Satanic forces of the NWO know they cannot defeat God. They know they are going to loose and they are trying to bring you down with them. Ultimately, it is your own choice. You either choose love and freedom for all, or you continue to be a selfish parasite. Ask the Universal Spirit for guidance.

It is almost 2003. That gives us all 3-4 years to make the necessary personal spiritual growth so we can be ready. If we, who know the truth, all evolve spiritually, then we will be able to truly help others and show others to see the light and live by it. We must begin to live according to the teachings of Jesus, Buhda, Muhammhed, and the others. Christ has died, and has risen. Christ will come again.

Posted by Joe @ 12/05/2002 03:26 PM EST

Please excuse my oversight.
My name is Jon Carl Skoglund,
which means
"God gave a free man a clearing in the forest."

Of course "they" know who I am and some of what I think and feel.
I have written to "them" many times, but received no replies.

We all die. What matters is how we live and whom we serve.

Did you hear the joke about the two snakes walking along?
Ofcourse not.

Did you hear the joke about the two honest lawyers walking along?
Ofcourse not.

One snake said to the other snake:
"Are we poisenous?
The other snake said:
"Why do you ask?"
The first snake said:
"Because I just bit my lip."

Vox, you are right to say that we need to hold Bush et.al. to live by the rule that he set for everyone else. The "nobel" Roman would fall on his sward. But most Romans who had swards were not nobel. They just slaughtered each other. So Bush wants to be a Roman Emperor.

His curse is that he will live for eternity with souls like his, re-experiencing the lives of all that they affected, from his victims' perspectives. Like most Roman Emperors, he will become insane with fear. His own will kill him.

Peace, courage, and joy.

Jon Carl Skoglund
"God gave a free man a clearing in the forest."

Posted by Free Man @ 12/05/2002 03:47 PM EST

To Sabu: Cardinal Egan, eh? Well I can hardly wait to see how the Catholic Church wriggles out of this pedophile predicament (a taste which is reputedly shared with Shrub the elder and Bob Hope). There is probably much truth to what you are saying, but I believe it goes way beyond the Catholic Church. The 7th Day Adventists believe the Pope is the Antichrist (Vicarius Filei Dei) adds up to 666 if you count the Roman numerals supposedly. However, I believe wherever you find the most money and power, you will find the highest concentration of evil. At this time, I think the seat of greatest evil is with international banking cartels who control the US government AND the Pope. Shrub and Pope are but pawns of this greater power. BTW, I think the CIA has known about the CC pedophile scandal for decades, and has chosen to reveal it now in order to divert the spin away from the 9-11 investigations.

Posted by chesnutsroasting @ 12/05/2002 03:56 PM EST

To: G W Gnu. On the Pentagon plane, though I disagree with their reason, I agree with the excellent site whatreallyhappened.com that it is likely misinformation. The fact that on the rare occasions when the mainstream media mentions suspicion of the official 911 story, they always mention the "fake pentagon plane" theory but fail to mention the abundance of other information such as what Mike Ruppert, vox, or Guerilla News Network point out for example. This tells me that the media wants the public to associate all suspicion of the official 911 story with the "fake pentagon plane" theory just like if you question the official Kennedy assassination story you're one of those "grassy knoll people." Oh you think the government new in advance of the 911 attacks, you must be one of those "fake pentagon plane" people, they will say. As for the Israelis, I'm no zionist but I think Israel is just as much a pawn of the oligarchy/illuminati/jesuits/name your poison as the US is. From what I know Israel actually tried to warn the US as did many other countries. Seems more likely that Israel was monitoring Islamic terrorists (which do exist), or even other terrorists (such as US or British), or the 911 operation, or all of the above. I'm not saying Mossad doesn't collaborate with NWO operations, I'm just saying I see no evidence that Israel carried out 911. The fact that so much of the Islamic world blames Israel plays into the hands of the Zbigniew Brzezinski plan and others who want a culture war between the east and the west so the US can grab the Eurasian land mass as many have pointed out. The oligarchy is more than willing to sacrifice Israel and a number of US cities to grab Eurasia so I disagree with those who think Israel is calling the shots. Iraq is the next step to taking Eurasia but however long it takes, the Eurasian plan is destined to lead into disaster which gets into some of what Free Man is talking about.

Posted by MR. ELEVEN @ 12/05/2002 04:02 PM EST

i don't want to be "awake" anymore. just wake me up when it's safe to be human again please..........vox i enjoy your work but until you have the answer for the problem maybe you should relax. just some advise from a friend in the world.

Posted by love against the machine @ 12/05/2002 05:46 PM EST

Dear vox and all other lovers of freedom, thank you for your work.

Please write about effective resistors against the N. W. O. Rodney Stitch wrote about his decades long fight for right in his books: Defrauding America, and The Drugging of America. Learn from him and many others like him, such as Pam Schuffert, and Dr. Len Horowitz. Support the whistle blowers. To be free, we must feel and act free regardless of our fear, pain, and death. We must act alone and together in the open without secrecy, in the tyrants’ faces. Consider being active in all possible ways. Some ways are:

Rely on God.
Be His spiritual warriors by prayer, meditation, research, and action.
Know and love your neighbors, and strangers.
Be involved in and beyond your community, especially in charities.
Sing joyful songs alone and with friends.
Collect and tell jokes.
Build your physical endurance and your immune system.
Be armed, well trained in arms, and a member of a local militia.
Proclaim and fight for justice.
Visit the imprisoned, the home bound, the sick, and the dying.
Promote local education for youth and adults on the laws and the outlaws.
Boycott all forms of the N. W. O. influence, including all companies which support the N. W. O.
Refuse mandated vaccinations, and other mandated medical procedures.
Educate your children and others at home if possible.
Keep the TV off.
Know our enemies. They have waged war on us from the beginning.

When I was young, I thought my uncle’s talk about communism was paranoid. I loved him but thought that he was sick. I was wrong. He was deeply grieved and right. A Roman Catholic priest raped my uncle’s daughter repeatedly. The Roman Catholic Church threatened his entire family with death if he tried to get justice. He got no justice. At 60 years old, I know the problem of communism was and is far worse than he said. Communism is only one form used by the power hungry criminals to gain and keep power. The Jesuits first worked out Communism in South America in the seventeenth century. The Jesuits wrote and published the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” under another name in the sixteenth century as their plan for conquest of the world. The Jesuits accused their victims of writing “The Protocols”, and of the Jesuits’ other crimes. The forth, and highest oath of the Jesuits is to do all crimes, to infiltrate and overthrow all power structures, in order to enslave all people to obedience to the Jesuit General. Read the The Vatican Assassins. According to another author, Dr. Malachi Martin, a formerly high placed Jesuit priest in the Vatican, disgraced by his adultery, author of many books, the Jesuits and others enthroned Lucifer in 1963, in the Vatican, to rule the Roman Catholic Church. Other forms of power madness are manifest in some forms of science, political parties, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, and paganism, in oligarchical and monopolistic Capitalism, Fabian Socialism, Fascism, Theocracies, some occultisms, mobs, and Monarchies, in Luciferianism, Satanism, some forms of Zionism, scientific orthodoxy, and some religions like that of Sun Yung Moon, and Freemasonry. Lucifer rules Freemasonry as declared in the books of its leaders. Slavery has been the norm but not the right. Our freedom and other blessings in the USA were built by God inspired struggle as well as by theft and murder. Freedom is rare. The slavers, the servants of Lucifer are at the top of many organizations. Satan (the accuser), Lucifer, Behomoth, Baphomet, Molek, Bel, Baal, etc. all demand human sacrifice and enslavement; all seduce and deceive their servants, all laugh at our folly, suffering, and death. These “gods” are real to those who worship them, and to those who fight them. Only God’s power will overcome them through His faithful children. Our most important and powerful value and weapon is each individual’s relationship with God. Our service to Him is all that maintains our freedom. Like the Vietnamees, we have no where to run.

Operation Pheonix has been operating here. Now Tom Ridge is in charge. Maybe he is only a puppet as are the Bushes et. al.

Peace, courage, and joy,

Jon Carl Skoglund
“God gave a free man a clearing in the forest.”

Posted by Free Man @ 12/06/2002 01:51 AM EST

Wheels within wheels within yet more wheels. Slowly they turn. Evermore tightening the control mechanisms on this planet.

Take care to remember what you do to others will be done to you too. The law of attraction demands it my brothers.

On earth as in heaven so shall it be. Bow down and pay homage to the reptilian queen.

Posted by rooster @ 12/06/2002 06:58 AM EST

Religious Affiliation of U.S. Governors
November 2000
State Governor Religious Affiliation
Alabama Don Siegelman Catholic
Alaska Tony Knowles Nondenominational
American Samoa Tauese P. F. Sunia Congregationalist
Arizona Jane Dee Hull Catholic
Arkansas Mike Huckabee Southern Baptist
California Gray Davis Catholic
Colorado Bill Owens Catholic
Connecticut John Rowland Catholic
Delaware Thomas R. Carper Presbyterian
Florida Jeb Bush Catholic
Georgia Roy Barnes Methodist
Guam Carl T. C. Gutierrez Catholic
Hawaii Benjamin Cayetano Christian - unspecified
Idaho Dirk Kempthorne Methodist
Illinois George Ryan Methodist
Indiana Frank O'Bannon United Methodist
Iowa Tom Vilsack Catholic
Kansas Bill Graves United Methodist
Kentucky Paul Patton Presbyterian
Louisiana Mike Foster Episcopalian
Maine Angus King Episcopalian
Maryland Parris Glendening Catholic
Massachusetts Paul Cellucci Catholic
Michigan John Engler Catholic
Minnesota Jessie Ventura
Mississippi Ronnie Musgrove Methodist
Missouri Mel Carnahan Baptist
Montana Marc Racicot Catholic
Nebraska Mike Johanns Catholic
Nevada Kenny Guinn Episcopalian
New Hampshire Jeanne Shaheen Protestant
New Jersey Christie Todd Whitman Presbyterian
New Mexico Gary Johnson Lutheran
New York George Pataki Catholic
North Carolina James B. Hunt Jr. Presbyterian
North Dakota Edward Schafer Episcopalian
Ohio Bob Taft Methodist
Oklahoma Frank Keating Catholic
Oregon John Kitzhaber Nondenominational
Pennsylvania Tom Ridge Catholic
Rhode Island Lincoln Almond Episcopalian
South Carolina Jim Hodges Methodist
South Dakota Bill Janklow Lutheran
Tennessee Don Sundquist Lutheran
Texas George W. Bush Methodist
Utah Mike Leavitt
Chairman of the National Governors' Association Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Vermont Howard Dean Protestant
Virginia Jim Gilmore Methodist
Washington Gary Locke Protestant
West Virginia Cecil Underwood Methodist
Wisconsin Tommy Thompson Catholic
Wyoming Jim Geringer Lutheran

Affiliation Number of
Governors Percent
Catholic 16 32%
Methodist 11 22%
Episcopalian 5 10%
Lutheran 4 8%
Presbyterian 4 8%
Baptist 2 4%
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 1 2%


Posted by Sabu @ 12/06/2002 07:28 AM EST

In response to Sabu:

I am Catholic--in the good sense!--and take orders from no one.

Don't forget that the Anglo-American Establishment is Protestant, not RC. Catholic presidents have a 100% mortality rate to date--think about it!

We are not borg.

Please visit my site:


Posted by exbenedictine @ 12/06/2002 08:25 AM EST

My generation, the generation after GEN X, has always been criticized at the fact that we are so violence-oriented and unlike the "moralistic" baby-boomers before us. But after finally realizing that the world I've known is a complete fraud and completely monopolized by money-hungry big business anyway, and that, as Americans, no matter how patriotic we are, no matter how much hope we hold for a better future, we're basically SCREWED as long as wealth and power, and people like messed up Bush et. al are around.

May the Lord be with us all...

PS: Vox, thank you for your continuing efforts to inform us on the truths of our world.

PPS: Can we get one of those car bomber guys to "accidentally" detour from Israel and go to DC instead?

Posted by Florence @ 12/06/2002 09:09 AM EST

Oops, I'm sorry, I didn't even see the coments before mine from Sabu...Anyways, just for FYI, since the Catholic church is based completely on pagan tradition and loosely on the Bible, it's no wonder that these atrocities are occuring within and stemming from the Church itself. Look it up. The funny robes they wear, the hats, the rituals, the worship of Mother Mary all come from Babylonian times and the pagans. Once a Roman Catholic, and now a born-again Christian, I know from first-hand experience exactly how corrupt the church really is.

Here are just some websites you can check out for quick reference to these truths.



Posted by Florence @ 12/06/2002 09:27 AM EST

Methinks the earth needs some outside intervention before the bastards take us all down.

Posted by opposing thumb @ 12/06/2002 10:21 AM EST

Solution one is to get a brain.
Solution two is to use it.

Posted by MR. ELEVEN @ 12/06/2002 11:04 AM EST

TO exbenedictine:
check this site out. Read this chilling research about the Catholic "hidden" hands. I can see why many Mexicans are coming across the borders, a G.W wants to make hundreds of thousands citizens, it's because 99.9% Mexicans are Catholics. They will do whatever the Pope says. There will be a Civil War in America, ignited by some General who is very sad about the way America is going. That will cause a ripple affect in the entire country. Do you think the Mexicans will guard the many Catholic perishes in America? Yes they sure will. A new Covenant is about to arise, but there will be forces fighting against it all along.

Posted by Sabu @ 12/06/2002 11:37 AM EST

Check this guys animations out!!!


Posted by Bob the Central Scrutinizer @ 12/06/2002 11:38 AM EST

TO exbenedictine:check this site out.

click on NYC Terror & Cardinal Egan

Read this chilling research about the Catholic "hidden" hands. I can see why many Mexicans are coming across the borders, a G.W wants to make hundreds of thousands citizens, it's because 99.9% Mexicans are Catholics. They will do whatever the Pope says. There will be a Civil War in America, ignited by some General who is very sad about the way America is going. That will cause a ripple affect in the entire country. Do you think the Mexicans will guard the many Catholic perishes in America? Yes they sure will. A new Covenant is about to arise, but there will be forces fighting against it all along.

Posted by Sabu @ 12/06/2002 11:39 AM EST

Catholics, Lutherans, Baptists,
Fundamentalists,Methodists, Pagans, et al.

Who to blame? What if we were all
to blame?

Posted by dShaysRebellion @ 12/06/2002 12:13 PM EST

We "ALL" don't have Nuclear weapons do we? Who BENEFIETS? The most group of people who are trying to control others are the European whites $ Jews, who are really European gypsys. No other humans are trying to push this NWO. When "ALL" of the Europeans go back an stay in Europe, meaning, leave Australia, Canada, Africa, New Zealand, America, Japan, Korea, et el, an remain in Europe, the World would be better off. Especially the animals! Can you imagine how much sea life dies from oil wasted in the waters? Who needs the Oil to stay in Power? Europeans. That's where all of the conflict is coming from. There was a time when there were no Europeans on this Planet, because the SUN burns their skin. They must have originated from a Planet further away from the Sun. Skin tan lotion is very much needed by Europeans.
What's the difference between a Crow, Buzzard, Dove, Eagle?
They are all birds with different characters.

Posted by Sabu @ 12/06/2002 12:58 PM EST

Ummm, all of you who think everything that is going on is the result of a plot by the pople are just freakin' morons. For one, the pope has been actively speaking AGAINST the WTO and globalization. Second, the media attack against the Church(of course the molestations are true, not going to argue that) is being launched at exactly the time that the WASP Anglo-American Establishment is consolidating its power. If the Catholic Church is all powerful, why are they being thoroughly exposed in the corporate media? Use some logic, people, and put down your Bill Cooper and Hal Lindsey books.

Posted by The ex-Catholic @ 12/06/2002 01:10 PM EST

I was just sent this story and thought it made a good “Top Story”. Put us on your mailing list. Also I would like to do an interview with you on LewisNews Radio, just tell me when you’re available and we will set it up. Schantz editor LewisNews
www.LewisNews.com & LewisNews Radio

Posted by Schantz @ 12/06/2002 01:37 PM EST


Please be careful. What you write and the information you provide is VERY important and valuable. The headline, though, might tend to give legal "ammunition" to those criminal thugs who will want to silence you. PLEASE don't make it so easy for them ... this country needs your voice.

Posted by Shawn Hines @ 12/06/2002 02:29 PM EST

Hi vox--You could subtitle article "Hoist Them on Their Own Petard".
Agree w/hausigaarn? that they already know who we all are--had some dude pull up in SUV in frontof my ap't and walk in street taking photos of all 3 doors to my home and then one of me standing in stunned disbelief behind my screen door while his lady friend sniffed coke in car---When i hear those funny little clicks when on phone i say "Hi feds"--i guess wanting peace on Earth puts a person under suspicion.
My take on composition of NWO folks and their fawning hangers-on is that it includes all races and religions and genders--encouraging, because there is no honor amongst thieves, and they fight w/each other for the power they are obsessed with.
Re "God" saving us--i have my own spiritual beliefs, but God's track record of saving the innocent not too good.
Stll pretty sure that i'm a pacifist, but did feel oddly comforted to learn that resisters within usa military diverting arms to patriot groups.
Re speaking out (Heather)--It's like walking thru mud to try to talk to sleepers about what's going on--i find that mentioning horrible side effects of smallpox vaccinations stirs them from their slumbers--so many americans in cocoon of self-centered comfort that only what might affect them (or their families as extension of self) personally can get thru their willful ignorance and denial and brainwashing.
Thanks, vox.
Peace and Freedom, Kathleen

Posted by Kathleen Beatty @ 12/06/2002 04:07 PM EST

check out the cool logo of the binladin group

Posted by grey @ 12/06/2002 05:16 PM EST









How do you mend a broken heart?
Use ticker tape.

Peace, courage, and joy

Jon Carl Skoglund
“God gave a free man a clearing in the forrest.”

Posted by Free Man @ 12/06/2002 05:53 PM EST

Are you worried about any reprisal for this posting? Did you read the article about the Swiss declaring the bin Laden tape a fake? How do you keep your identity anonymous? Please let me know."

His itentity is no secret, any one of you conspiracy geniuses can find that information easily if you had an interest in knowing the facts.

Remember all the weird theories about a plane not hitting the pentagon, well somebody finally put forth the effort to compile photos and eye witness accounts of what did happen and post it in a spot where you guys are likely to find it. There are many more photos and eye witness accounts on the net than what was posted at Rense. Take some initiative and look for yourself, instead of believing every stupid thing you hear.

And yes, your hero is known to the FBI but hardly worth their effort. This threat though could be an exception.

VOX COMMENT ANNOTATION: Also, hundreds of New York City Police officers including some in my family are aware of my identity and support my analysis very much - they like what I am talking about because they sense I am not lying to them. And they don't get that same feeling from Bush.

As I try to address more and more people each day, I make it a point to make lasting impressions on people, like NYC cops, (who are at the front lines of this sea of lies and bullshit) They know exactly what I am talking about and, believe me, they resonate quite quickly with the information I present to them. So don't be so sure, they don't like me, my cautionary friend Gene. Remember, I am the good guy that you can trust - it is Bush who is the lying, war profiteering draftdodging, cheerleading, retard)

No one is saying Bush should be immediatly killed, It's called irony. I'm pointing out a glaring inconsistancy. I'm sounding alarms.

A summary of notable Thoman Jefferson's statements, as can be found on voxnyc.com are quite explicit on the matter of what Bush is doing to the United States and to the republic. I am devouting a lot of energy and time to do my part in defending the constitution against this current group of operators who are trying to "Pull a fast one." The whole lot of them are the worst crooks to rise to power that this nation has ever seen. I regret I am but one man because if I could be five people I would fight them with all five of me. We have a historic duty to save the republic and defy this tyranny every day and every way we can.

Now as for this world, I have plenty of friends, in high places as well, I promise. And I make friends easy.

Also I have very large and loyal readership from the military to boot. Lots of visitors from the Navy and nipr and Army and lot's from coast guard, lots from Darpa. (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.) And so many others I can't think of at the moment. My work has been featured on military sites and even a Korean War vets listserve (Positively) and is generally is recieved positively by all servicemen of all branches.

Sure there are your random kooks who visit my site but all and all, it's Major Universities, lot's of dot orgs. And lots of activists.

Now as for your comment about the FBI. My guess is that they would be like most other people who read this site every day. Most agree. Because after an intelligent person undertakes a through reading of the site he or she has just read they are like everyone else with a brain. A lightbulb lights up - they learn a few facts that they didn't know before.

Would they concern themselves with this site? - hopefully as a research source. If, for example, they read the entire Dirty Bomb article 3/4 of the way down the front page of voxnyc, contained within it is the KEY to all this terrorism - THE KEY. All they have to do is be patient and read the entire article. This is a scholarly work here, not crime. My readership is doubling each month. Why? Because people are tired of the lies.

I mean seriously, traffic here has nearly doubled each month since June. Why do you think that is?

I promise you, the playing field is being bungled at the moment, The Bush crew are fucking it up. They don't know what they are doing - and looming over it all is the ominous "war profits". Profits in mind. Money. Profits. And this Profiteering business is central to my thesis. Follow the money guys. Remember that rule, follow the money.

If Bush dynasty was absolutely spotless in their reputation regarding profiteering or worse "WAR PROFITEERING" (Which is TREASON) it would be one thing, BUT THE BUSH FAMILY HISTORY TELLS A VASTLY DIFFERENT TALE.

And now he's got the audacity to hire a convicted felon to head up "TOTAL INFORMATION AWARENESS AGENCY"

I promise you, if you ever entered the truth of the Bush dynasty into the Total Information Awareness computers the fuckin' circuits would overload andthe machine would burst into flames. Put that in your PO(INDEX)TER.

I am spending a lot of time shouting these warnings but here it goes again. Read the history folks, don't take my for it, see for yourself, if you dare. If real honest agents were are allowed to LOOK FOR THE REAL PATTERNS in the Bushes past, they would catch a glimpse of the tip of a very scary iceburg. Now that iceberg is NOT comprised of small operators, it is comprized of the very biggest of the big. And so, Gene, that is why you think it would be easier for the authorities to crack down on a writer, than confront the real (Inside) enemy. And you are correct. It would be easier and less career damaging to go after writers than some of people who are trully implicated in these acts of terrorism, people who might actually be in society's so-called "elite." People who might actually be right here in America. People who might actually be in the White House.

Until we have the courage to look in directions that would be the most frieghtening directions to look in (Straight to the top)and in the highest levels of our own society, then we will never, get to the truth of the matter - and the republic will fall.

And finally, that investigation MUST include a thorough examination into of ANY AND ALL INFLUENCE BY ANY AND ALL RELIGIONS. For if we exclude and MAKE OFF LIMITS ANY EXAMINATION INTO ANY "OFF LIMITS" RELIGIONS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO JEWS, JESUITS, FREEMASONS, KNIGHTS OF MALTA, CATHOLICS, AND OTHERS, THEN YOU CAN FORGET ANY HOPE OF GETTING TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS 911 ATTACK AND ENSUING RELIGIOUS/INDUSTRIALIST CRUSADE. The investigation must include a thorough examination of the secretive religious orders, which will include scholarly examinations and historical perspectives.

In the end you find out that what we have here is a continuatiion of the CRUSADES. Nothing more nothing less. Sure we think our time is different, more advanced from that last but is exactly what each previous epoch thought. Each epoch thinks that it is different from the preceeding time and that those crusades were only "Back Then"

Well folks, we're living in someone's, future, "Back then," right now.

And guess what? It's a crusade alright. Just as plain and clear as anyone can see. We must shatter the delusion of our time and face the facts. Are your children going to benifit from Bushes war profiteering?Sorry to busrt your illusion of our modern times but it's an old fashion crusade here - for absolute certainty. And since we cannot stress that enough we'll say it again... Here Goes...


Roughly the same players and same overall tactics. The faces of these elites changes over the years but their vainglorious strategy of endless bloodletting rages on. It's a game played only by the rich and it's fun for them. For us it is a bad deal I promise you. You will have no money and less stuff after the Bush boys get through with you, I promise you that.

A Good Start is with a simple google search, type in: Neil Bush Scott Hinckley Dinner Read what pops up, continue searching to get to the bottom of this American tragedy..

Posted by Gene @ 12/06/2002 06:24 PM EST

I found this site thought you all would find it enlightening ...
17 techniques of truth suppression:

Interesting how many of them are so readily recognizable ...

Posted by Shawn Hines @ 12/06/2002 09:41 PM EST

All that is said here (or happening on our planet) is transient material that will not help you to LEARN how to ascend!

The ESSENCE of us being here (in this third density) is to choose (each on an individual basis) between the LEFT-hand or the RIGHT-hand path of the Infinite Creator.

All that is happening to you is a catalyst/lesson to make you choose youre path and then to polarize that choice (unblocking youre chakra's) until connection with inteligent infinity is made and ascension is immenent.

The left-hand path is the path of service to SELF. The path in which an entity denies otherselves (every entity you see is a mirror of you).
If one chooses this path (which is just as godlike as the other path) one has to try to become the elite and has to try to enslave otherselves to gain polarization.
This path (also called the negatieve path) has a PECKING ORDER, since all who follow this path are SERVING SELVES and dont like OTHERSELVES, so there is almost ZERO harmony and entiites are in constand battle with eachother.
And be AWARE that if you happen to be an entity that doesnt like ALL otherselves ( like Bush, Hitler, Jesus, ect) you are polarizing towards the negatieve path.
Remember that Christ told you to LOVE your neighbour (Bush is one of them) and also remember that Christ told you that He is the ONE you gave food when He was starving, visited Him in the prison, game Him a roof to sleep under ect.
Meaninig: IF YOU HATE ANY OTHERSELVE, you have choosen the left-hand path, since you deny that God is EVERY SINGLE ONE!

The right-hand path is the path of UNITY and service to otherselves.
( hence you then serve Christ, who is just like you and me, part of the Infinite Creator).
Followers of this path LOVE and ackowledge every enity as a part of God.
They see the LOVE in every moment and situation.
They understand that all that is happening right now, is part of a DIVINE plan.
They KNOW that there is nothing WRONG and they know that this planet is going to be a fourth density planet VERY soon.
They understand that for example your president has choosen the left-hand path and is trying (only on the other path) to polarize this choice and they know he is doing well and they love him as they love christ.
They know that the most FUNDAMENTAL LAW is the LAW OF FREE-WILL. ( this btw knows a high-powered entity on the left-hand path as well).
They understand they are ETERNAL and if strong and devoted, can not be enslaved, since this needs your personal free-will.
So they know that the Elite wont touch them (kill them), because the Beast is not affraid of them and since they are not INSIDE the pecking order, where battle is authorized!

If you hate Bush for example and if you want him dead, you are inside the pecking order of the negatieve path and thus BY FREE-WILL ready to SUFFER!
And so you could be.....just as Bush could be.. by Higher entities ( possibly from Orion).

STS/negatieve path, is the path of suffering and death and mostly self-service.
STO/positieve path, is the path of UNITY and understanding that we all are ONE.

We are nearing the end of our (learning) cycle here on planet earth, it lasted 75.000 years.
Earth-changes are immenent and far more " dangerous" than any NWO!

But do as the Lord and master of the christ-consiousness told you:

"See that ye not be troubled"

Whatever path you have choosen, I LOVE YOU and I AM YOU.

WE ALL ARE ONE, the Infinite One.


Posted by Helper_of_RA @ 12/07/2002 08:00 AM EST

Basically, I agree with you Vox in your response to Gene and your analysis. I would just say that because the criminals in control of the government may have a warped view of the Bible as may some visitors to this site, does not mean that the Bible is warped. The crusaders today corrupt the wisdom of the scriptures just as they have thoughout time. Most churches and religions do as well. But if one studies what the Bible actually says for themselves, particularly the original Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic writings, one will quickly see that it roundly condemns the barbaric behavior of our "leaders" and the corrupt direction they are leading us. Moreover the book stands alone in predicting most of our current woes today. I'm not saying that the Bible is the only path to spiritual enlightenment, rather that it is a tested one for those who actually test it.

Posted by MR. ELEVEN @ 12/07/2002 08:41 AM EST

The Overthrow Of The American Republic
Part 22
Treasury Boss Sacked
by Sherman H. Skolnick

Some often have it on their mind if not expressed as a question. Does the alternative press, often heckling The Establishment, "the powers that be", the Ruling Class, whatever THEY are called---do the dissident views get results? And if so, how can we be sure? How can it be known, measured, or proved?


[1] Helpful in measuring whether an "outside the box" scandal, can cause commotions within the "box", are historical records. The monopoly press keep the same, calling them "the morgue", the place where they save old news clips, sometimes so old they are on microfilm, microfiche, and similar retention devices.

Do non-monopoly press sorts keep track that way? If not, why not? Internet search engines are helpful but limited. Did THEIR computers save the real stuff, the real possible negatives, revealing little-known happenings?

The pressfakers keep separate not to be publicly examined files as part of "THE BLACKMAIL BUSINESS". [Visit our website story on that subject.] Notice, big newspapers almost are beyond being sued or cannot successfully be sued in Court. Why? A case in point is The Chicago Tribune. It is virtually impossible to bring a successful suit or claim against them. Even accidents at their facilities caused by their negligence. WHY? Because they keep secret files on every judge, state and federal. And the judges know full well of the existence of such files, from anecdotal data gathered from others on the bench and in the bar.

So the Chicago Tribune, and their parent, the media monster, Tribune Conmpany, are virtually immune from being fingered successfully in Court. As we stated in our website story about the Tribune and the mob, the newspaper empire has traditionally had as head of their parent firm, the head of the Federal Reserve Chicago District Bank.

Helpful in this regard, for the public benefit rather than private enrichment, are huge files kept by non-mass media research and investigation groups. I am the founder/chairman of such a group, since 1963, Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Court. As part of our work we have amassed, amongst us, some one million records, audio and video tapes, secret notebooks, little-known court files, notes of witnesses and sources (whose identity we have an absolute policy NOT to divulge, so as to preserve their identity and employment, if not their actual life). We have the notes of, for example, the most endangered species in the United States, forthright, honest judges. Over the years, some of them have met with us on the sly, to tell us their woes and seek our off the record suggestions

Not one of our sources, but having been considered one of the most outspoken brave judges in America, is the judge that dared issue and cause to be published in the law books, the following:

"More than once judges of a court have been indirectly reminded that they are personally taxpayers. No sophisticated person is unaware that even in this Commonwealth the INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE has been in possession of facts with respect to public officials which it has PRESENTED or SHELVED in order to serve what can only be called political ends, be they high or low. AND A JUDGE WHO KNOWS THE SCORE is aware that every time HIS DECISIONS OFFEND THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE, he is inviting a close inspection of his own returns."

Lord vs. Kelley, 240 F.Supp 167, at 169 (United States District Court, District of Massachusetts, 1965).. Available in most law libraries as Volume 240, Federal Supplement, starting at page 167. (Emphasis added.)

It was apparently the same Federal Judge in Boston who dared declare the Viet Nam War unconstitutional, but whose decision was overturned by the war-mongering banker-judges on the U.S. Supreme Court.

For similar reasons, most every organ of the mass media dares NOT offend the U.S. Treasury, the U.S. Secret Service, and the Internal Revenue Service.

[2] A long-festering mess, for years kept out of the popular press in the U.S., has been the huge amount of superior quality counterfeit U.S. Currency (actually, Federal Reserve hot-air notes, backed by nbothing, masquerading before the public as the "U.S. Dollar".) In a prior exclusive story, we dealt with this subject.

So, shortly after our story is posted, what happened? Why, the U.S. Treasury boss, Paul O'Neill is sacked. Of course, cynical sorts have a way of explaining it. They say, Josef Stalin would have given him two choices, if at all, Exile to Siberia or the firing squad. O'Neill the money boss has a number of failures, to his record, as far as the current occupant and resident of the White House is concerned:

===Failure to successfully investigate the sizeable number of U.S. Secret Service agents who have lately and mysteriously resigned. O'Neill failed to adequately find out and failed to shut them up. Some ex-agents confirm to media sources, in confidence, that they are fed up with the sexual perversions of George W. Bush, including traveling around with his long-time male sex-mate. Bush and this person, mayor of a sizeable city, rendezvous at a certain lounge purportedly owned by a major financier of Osama bin Laden, demonized by Bush as the cause of most problems of the U.S., despite the fact that the Bush Crime Family has been in business with the bin Laden Family including Osama who they are NOT on the outs with.

===Failure, by O'Neill, to stop all mention of the huge problem of superior counterfeit U.S. Currency, actually Federal Reserve Notes. It is causing tremendous friction between the Washington government and the Moscow government. Moscow czar Putin is beginning to find out that he and his predecessor, Yeltsin, had and have been propped up with huge amounts of U.S. Currency, part of it the superior quality bogus U.S. Currency. Short of ringing the neck of George W. Bush, how is Putin, supposedly now a U.S. ally formerly big with the Secret Police, supposed to react?

===Failure by the U.S. Secret Service, part of the U.S. Treasury, to keep secret a previously not publicized film, together with documents, tending to show that Daddy Bush was instrumental in the plot to assassinate President John F. Kennedy. [An FBI document, dated November 29, 1963, circulated by us and a few others, tends to show the elder Bush was part of the JFK plot cover up.] Failure, as well, by the U.S. Secret Service to keep out of U.S. bookstores, as they have in the past, the forbidden book, "Farewell America", written by the French CIA under the pen-name "James Hepburn". Now available, since October, 2002, for the first time in U.S. bookstores since being first issued in 1968. Amazon.com has been offering the same in paperback (previous hardback bootleg copies brought as much as one hundred dollars).The book details the plot against JFK.

===Failure of the U.S. Treasury, by boss O'Neill, to adequately co-operate with the Federal Reserve czar Alan Greenspan, to successfully pump up the U.S. Stock Market, at least temporarily, jointly using part of the long-secret superior quality phoney baloney U.S. currency. In such failures, the Treasury and the Fed, are opening the way for a possible "change of regime", not in Baghdad, BUT WASHINGTON. In our prior exclusive details, we told about the dissident U.S. Admirals and Generals, vowing to arrest Commander-in-Chief Clinton for treason. If Clinton were to arrest them for mutiny, if they survived and were not assassinated, they planned to defend their position documenting Clinton's treason against the American commonfolk to favor the Red Chinese. Although, as we have mentioned, ten of these flag officers, military jargon description, have been assassinated. BUT, there is now a much larger group itching to target George W. Bush, as to the treasonous acts by him, as supervised by Daddy Bush, former head of the secret political police, and others.

===Faiure by O'Neill, as Treasury poobah, jointly with the conspiratorial Federal Reserve, to turn up the U.S. economy, thus paving the way for George W. Bush to be another Herbert Hoover, ala 1931. Did Albert Gore, Jr., sidestep being in charge of the White House, when he did not fight back "The Gang of Five" on the U.S. Supreme Court, when they like a military Junta, installed George W. Bush as the resident and occupant of the Oval Office, on that infamous December evening, 2000? Some of Gore's confidants claim he so much as muttered under his breath, "Let George be Hooverized, not me", anticipating a serious meltdown of the U.S. financial system.

George W. Bush, in dismissing Treasury strawboss O'Neill, is blaming one of the stooges for the acts and doings of chief pro-British stooge George himself.. The Bush Family, as we have documented, share the proceeds of illicit dealings in a joint account with the Queen of England, at her private bank, Coutts Bank London. [See secret Federal Reserve wire transfer records, under the secret code of Greenspan, in a transaction of ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS, in our website series "Greenspan Aids and Bribes Bush", where the records of twenty five secret Bush Crime Family worldwide bank accounts are attached to our stories.]

Note how the British Monarch sent the head of her private bank to a key position with the Carlyle Group, where Daddy Bush has been a heavily paid consultant to the bin Laden business interests. As noted in the Financial Times of London, December 19, 2001.

===Failure of the U.S. Treasury, through their Internal Revenue Service unit, to increase tax collections, to finance a proposed war to capture and dominate one of the world's largest oil reserves not fully developed, namely Iraq. And remember, Daddy Bush had been a private business partner, in the 1980s, with Saddam Hussein, as shown in a unpublicized federal case in Chicago. [See, "The Secrets of Timothy McVeigh", on our website.]

Thus, the Treasury, as supposedly supervised by O'Neill, failed to crackdown on tax cheats. BUT, who were those tax cheats if not those tied to the Bush Crime Family. Such as WorldCom. Such as Enron. Such as Microsoft which reportedly pays no taxes using reputed book-cooking yet doing a zillion dollar business. Such as General Electric. Greenspan's wife, Washington correspondent for NBC, Andrea Mitchell, has ostensibly covered up G.E.'s financial finagling. Mrs. Greenspan's boss has been G.E. unit, NBC.

Some old-time cynics in Chicago perhaps remember my first appearance on a live, not-taped, TV talk show, 1967. The host blundered in asking me a question he did not know in advance the answer to. "Mr. Skolnick, you contend Chicago and elsewhere around the nation are riddled with bribe-taking judges. What do you suggest be done with them?" He turned visibly pale when I answered, "Selling justice, they are not entitled to Due Process of Law. They should be dealt with by a National Firing Squad, to teach the bench and the bar a lesson."

One form of proof is circumstantial. With such evidence, some in the past have even been sentenced to the electric chair or execution by lethal injection. A useful research tool, if not an actual yardstick, is propinquity, events that can be shown to be related, a sort of event kinship.

Various mass media reporters are becoming aware of the details of the massive amount of fake superior quality U.S. currency, much of it coming back from overseas and also, how George W. Bush's cavorting with his male sex-mate is enabling Red China to defeat U.S. national security by way of blackmail.

Is the Federal Reserve dictator, the next to hurry-up his retirement? We call the Oval Office resident and occupant, Bushfraud, for reasons we have previously mentioned. He has cut back the wages of federal employees and his political party fails to extend unemployment benefits to a suffering nation. Does HE remember what happened to the last monarch who scornfully told the anguished populace, "Let them eat cake!"

More coming....Stay tuned.

Posted by Ronn @ 12/07/2002 09:03 AM EST

You all ought to read Skolnicks story on Bush and his male lover. http:www.skolinksreport.com [ The Overthrow Of The American Republic. Part 15 ]

Posted by Opposing Thumb @ 12/07/2002 10:18 AM EST

Sorry, That link is ( http:www.Skolnicksreport.com ]

Posted by Opposing Thumb @ 12/07/2002 10:21 AM EST

To Sabu: While it's almost beyond the pale statistically that both WTC towers fell vertically the way they did without deliberate intent, it's not impossible, given the particular structural framing of those towers.

Occum's Razor suggests the simplest reason is usually the most accurate.
Certainly it tends to damp down the traction conspiracy theories get by lining up dead ducks in retrospect.

On the other hand, a top dissident FBI leader was in the building then!

A more likely scenario is that the Patriot Act and Homeland Security Act were being pre-architected with knowledge that strikes were coming, but, believe me, no one could have imagined the actual outcome.

(See bomber crash into Empire State Building in 1948 as likely scenario. The date SEP11 had more to do with US duplicity in creation of Israel, dumping Allende, et al than dialing
covert op's to the American people.)

On the other hand, why did B*sch and Ch*ney go to deep cover immediately!

See what I mean? 20:20 propinquity! It's all a huge waste of your time.

Besides, so what's wrong with the world's biggest mafia casino, arms merchant, drug dealer and money launderer enacting some security legislation against its workers?

It's not like we didn't know this!

But if America's people knew HALF of what was going on in WA DC and Wall Street, they'd all f'g FREAK OUT!!

Again, so what? Not that they could do a single thing to change what's happening, except bitch and moan.

Best advice? Le bon temps roulé!
You only live once...be happy!!!

Minimize taxable income, pay cash, and stay out of the stock market.
Avoid the popular media & InterNet.
Love your kids, and your parents.
Get straight with your family gods.
Personal pleasures, discretionary.

The world is infinitely wonderful.

Posted by al Zed @ 12/07/2002 09:18 PM EST

Great article! ´Nuff said.

For those who understand german, my side offers some backgrounds and opinions for 09/11: http://Strehse.de/Flaggezeigen.htm


Posted by Stefan @ 12/08/2002 09:57 AM EST

The Templars of the Crown

The governmental and judicial systems within the United States of America, at both federal and local state levels, is owned by the “Crown,” which is a private foreign power. Before jumping to conclusions about the Queen of England or the Royal Families of Britain owning the U.S.A., this is a different “Crown” and is fully exposed and explained below. We are specifically referencing the established Templar Church, known for centuries by the world as the “Crown.” From this point on, we will also refer to the Crown as the Crown Temple or Crown Templar, all three being synonymous.

First, a little historical background. The Temple Church was built by the Knights Templar in two parts: the Round and the Chancel. The Round Church was consecrated in 1185 and modeled after the circular Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem. The Chancel was built in 1240. The Temple Church serves both the Inner and Middle Temples (see below) and is located between Fleet Street and Victoria Embankment at the Thames River. Its grounds also house the Crown Offices at Crown Office Row. This Temple “Church” is outside any Canonical jurisdiction. The Master of the Temple is appointed and takes his place by sealed (non-public) patent, without induction or institution.

All licensed Bar Attorneys - Attorners (see definitions below) – in the U.S. owe their allegiance and give their solemn oath in pledge to the Crown Temple, realizing this or not. This is simply due to the fact that all Bar Associations throughout the world are signatories and franchises to the international Bar Association located at the Inns of Court at Crown Temple, which are physically located at Chancery Lane behind Fleet Street in London. Although they vehemently deny it, all Bar Associations in the U.S., such as the American Bar Association, the Florida Bar, or California Bar Association, are franchises to the Crown.

The Inns of Court (see below, The Four Inns of Court) to the Crown Temple use the Banking and Judicial system of the City of London - a sovereign and independent territory which is not a part of Great Britain (just as Washington City, as DC was called in the 1800’s, is not a part of the north American states, nor is it a state) to defraud, coerce, and manipulate the American people. These Fleet Street bankers and lawyers are committing crimes in America under the guise and color of law (see definitions for legal and lawful below). They are known collectively as the “Crown.” Their lawyers are actually Templar Bar Attornies, not lawyers.

The present Queen of England is not the “Crown,” as we have all been led to believe. Rather, it is the Bankers and Attornies (Attorneys) who are the actual Crown or Crown Temple. The Monarch aristocrats of England have not been ruling sovereigns since the reign of King John, circa 1215. All royal sovereignty of the old British Crown since that time has passed to the Crown Temple in Chancery.

The U.S.A. is not the free and sovereign nation that our federal government tells us it is. If this were true, we would not be dictated to by the Crown Temple through its bankers and attornies. The U.S.A. is controlled and manipulated by this private foreign power and our unlawful Federal U.S. Government is their pawn broker. The bankers and Bar Attorneys in the U.S.A. are a franchise in oath and allegiance to the Crown at Chancery - the Crown Temple Church and its Chancel located at Chancery Lane - a manipulative body of elite bankers and attorners from the independent City of London who violate the law in America by imposing fraudulent “legal” - but totally unlawful - contracts on the American people. The banks Rule the Temple Church and the Attorners carry out their Orders by controlling their victim’s judiciary.

Since the first Chancel of the Temple Church was built by the Knights Templar, this is not a new ruling system by any means. The Chancel, or Chancery, of the Crown Inner Temple Court was where King John was, in January 1215, when the English barons demanded that he confirm the rights enshrined in the Magna Carta. This City of London Temple was the headquarters of the Templar Knights in Great Britain where Order and Rule were first made, which became known as Code. Remember all these terms, such as Crown, Temple, Templar, Knight, Chancel, Chancery, Court, Code, Order and Rule as we tie together their origins with the present American Temple Bar system of thievery by equity (chancery) contracts.

“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.”
-Matthew 23:27

By what authority has the “Crown” usurped the natural sovereignty of the American people? Is it acceptable that the U.S. Supreme Court decides constitutional issues in the U.S.A? How can it be considered in any manner as being “constitutional” when this same Supreme Court is appointed by (not elected) and paid by the Federal U.S. Government? As you will soon see, the land called North America belongs to the Crown Temple.

The legal system (judiciary) of the U.S.A. is controlled by the Crown Temple from the independent and sovereign City of London. The private Federal Reserve System, which issues fiat U.S. Federal Reserve Notes, is financially owned and controlled by the Crown from Switzerland, the home and legal origin for the charters of the United Nations, the International Monetary Fund, the World Trade Organization, and most importantly, the Bank of International Settlements. Even Hitler respected his Crown bankers by not bombing Switzerland. The Bank of International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland controls all the central banks of the G7 nations. He who controls the gold rules the world.

Definitions you never knew:

ATTORN [e-'tern] Anglo-French aturner to transfer (allegiance of a tenant to another lord), from Old French atorner to turn (to), arrange, from a- to + torner to turn: to agree to be the tenant of a new landlord or owner of the same property. Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law ©1996.

ATTORN, v.i. [L. ad and torno.] In the feudal law, to turn, or transfer homage and service from one lord to another. This is the act of feudatories, vassels or tenants, upon the alienation of the estate.-Webster’s 1828 Dictionary.

ESQUIRE, n [L. scutum, a shield; Gr. a hide, of which shields were anciently made.], a shield-bearer or armor-bearer, scutifer; an attendant on a knight. Hence in modern times, a title of dignity next in degree below a knight. In England, this title is given to the younger sons of noblemen, to officers of the king's courts and of the household, to counselors at law, justices of the peace, while in commission, sheriffs, and other gentlemen. In the United States, the title is given to public officers of all degrees, from governors down to justices and attorneys.-Webster’s 1828 Dictionary.

RULE, n. [L. regula, from rego, to govern, that is, to stretch, strain or make straight.] 1. Government; sway; empire; control; supreme command or authority. 6. In monasteries, corporations or societies, a law or regulation to be observed by the society and its particular members. -Webster’s 1828 Dictionary

RULE n. 1 [C] a statement about what must or should be done, (syn.) a regulation.

REGULATION n. 1 [C] a rule, statement about what can be done and what cannot. 2 [U] the general condition of controlling any part of human life. -Newbury House Dictionary ©1999.

CODE n. 1 [C;U] a way of hiding the true meaning of communications from all except those people who have the keys to understand it. 2 [C] a written set of rules of behavior. 3 [C] a formal group of principles or laws. -v. coded, coding, codes to put into code, (syn.) to encode.ENCODE v. 1 to change written material into secret symbols. -Newbury House Dictionary ©1999.

CURTAIN n. [OE. cortin, curtin, fr. OF. cortine, curtine, F. courtine, LL. cortina, also, small court, small inclosure surrounded by walls, from cortis court. See Court.] 4 A flag; an ensign; -- in contempt. [Obs.] Shak. Behind the curtain, in concealment; in secret. -1913 Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary.

COURT, n. 3. A palace; the place of residence of a king or sovereign prince. 5. Persons who compose the retinue or council of a king or emperor. 9. The tabernacle had one court; the temple, three. -Webster’s 1828 Dictionary.

COURT n. 2 the place where a king or queen lives or meets others. -The Newbury House Dictionary ©1999.

TEMPLAR, n. [from the Temple, a house near the Thames, which originally belonged to the knights Templars. The latter took their denomination from an apartment of the palace of Baldwin II in Jerusalem, near the temple.] 1. A student of the law. -Webster’s 1828 Dictionary.

TEMPLE, n. [L. templum.] 1. A public edifice erected in honor of some deity. Among pagans, a building erected to some pretended deity, and in which the people assembled to worship. Originally, temples were open places, as the Stonehenge in England. 4. In England, the Temples are two inns of court, thus called because anciently the dwellings of the knights Templars. They are called the Inner and the Middle Temple. -Webster’s 1828 Dictionary.

CAPITOL, n. 1. The temple of Jupiter in Rome, and a fort or castle, on the Mons Capitolinus. In this, the Senate of Rome anciently assembled; and on the same place, is still the city hall or town-house, where the conservators of the Romans hold their meetings. The same name was given to the principal temples of the Romans in their colonies.

INN, n. [Hebrew, To dwell or to pitch a tent.] 2. In England, a college of municipal or common law professors and students; formerly, the town-house of a nobleman, bishop or other distinguished personage, in which he resided when he attended the court. Inns of court, colleges in which students of law reside and are instructed. The principal are the Inner Temple, the Middle Temple, Lincoln's Inn, and Gray's Inn. Inns of chancery, colleges in which young students formerly began their law studies. These are now occupied chiefly by attorneys, solicitors, etc.

INNER, a. [from in.] Interior; farther inward than something else, as an inner chamber; the inner court of a temple or palace. -Webster’s 1828 Dictionary.

CROWN, n. 4. Imperial or regal power or dominion; sovereignty. There is a power behind the crown greater than the crown itself. Junius. 19. A coin stamped with the image of a crown; hence, a denomination of money; as, the English crown. -- Crown land, land belonging to the crown, that is, to the sovereign. -- Crown law, the law which governs criminal prosecutions. -- Crown lawyer, one employed by the crown, as in criminal cases. v.t. 1. To cover, decorate, or invest with a crown; hence, to invest with royal dignity and power. -1913 Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary.

COLONY, n. 1. A company [i.e. legal corporation] or body of people transplanted from their mother country to a remote province or country to cultivate and inhabit it, and remaining subject to the jurisdiction of the parent state; as the British colonies in America or the Indies; the Spanish colonies in South America. -Webster’s 1828 Dictionary.

STATE, n. [L., to stand, to be fixed.] 1. Condition; the circumstances of a being or thing at any given time. These circumstances may be internal, constitutional or peculiar to the being, or they may have relation to other beings. 4. Estate; possession. [See Estate.] -Webster’s 1828 Dictionary.

ESTATE, n. [L. status, from sto, to stand. The roots stb, std and stg, have nearly the same signification, to set, to fix. It is probable that the L. sto is contracted from stad, as it forms steti.] 1. In a general sense, fixedness; a fixed condition; 5. Fortune; possessions; property in general. 6. The general business or interest of government; hence, a political body; a commonwealth; a republic. But in this sense, we now use State. ESTATE, v.t. To settle as a fortune. 1. To establish. -Webster’s 1828 Dictionary.

PATENT, a. [L. patens, from pateo, to open.] 3. Appropriated by letters patent. 4. Apparent; conspicuous. PATENT, n. A writing given by the proper authority and duly authenticated, granting a privilege to some person or persons. By patent, or letters patent, that is, open letters, the king of Great Britain grants lands, honors and franchises.

PATENT, v.t. To grant by patent. 1. To secure the exclusive right of a thing to a person

LAWFUL. In accordance with the law of the land; according to the law; permitted, sanctioned, or justified by law. "Lawful" properly implies a thing conformable to or enjoined by law; "Legal", a thing in the form or after the manner of law or binding by law. A writ or warrant issuing from any court, under color of law, is a "legal" process however defective. – A Dictionary of Law 1893.

LEGAL. Latin legalis. Pertaining to the understanding, the exposition, the administration, the science and the practice of law: as, the legal profession, legal advice; legal blanks, newspaper. Implied or imputed in law. Opposed to actual. "Legal" looks more to the letter, and "Lawful" to the spirit, of the law. "Legal" is more appropriate for conformity to positive rules of law; "Lawful" for accord with ethical principle. "Legal" imports rather that the forms of law are observed, that the proceeding is correct in method, that rules prescribed have been obeyed; "Lawful" that the right is actful in substance, that moral quality is secured. "Legal" is the antithesis of "equitable", and the equivalent of "constructive". - 2 Abbott's Law Dict. 24; A Dictionary of Law (1893).

STATUS IN QUO, STATUS QUO. [L., state in which.] The state in which anything is already. The phrase is also used retrospectively, as when, on a treaty of place, matters return to the status quo ante bellum, or are left in statu quo ante bellum, i.e., the state (or, in the state) before the war.
-1913 Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary

The Four Inns of Court to the unholy Temple

Globally, all the legalistic scams promoted by the exclusive monopoly of the Temple Bar and their Bar Association franchises come from four Inns or Temples of Court: the Inner Temple, the Middle Temple, Lincoln's Inn, and Gray's Inn. These Inns/Temples are exclusive and private country clubs; secret societies of world power in commerce. They are well established, some having been founded in the early 1200’s. The Queen and Queen Mother of England are current members of both the Inner Temple and Middle Temple. Gray’s Inn specializes in Taxation legalities by Rule and Code for the Crown. Lincoln’s Inn received its name from the Third Earl of Lincoln (circa 1300).

Just like all U.S. based franchise Bar Associations, none of the Four Inns of the Temple are incorporated - for a definite and purposeful reason: You can’t make claim against a non-entity and a non-being. They are private societies without charters or statutes, and their so-called constitutions are based solely on custom and self-regulation. In other words, they exist as secret societies without a public “front door” unless you’re a private member called to their Bar.

While the Inner Temple holds the legal system franchise by license to steal from Canada and Great Britain, it is the Middle Temple that has legal license to steal from America. This comes about directly via their Bar Association franchises to the Honourable Society of the Middle Temple through the Crown Temple.

From THE HISTORY OF THE INN, Later Centuries, [p.6], written by the Honourable Society of the Middle Temple, we can see a direct tie to the Bar Association franchises and its Crown signatories in America:

“Call to the Bar or keeping terms in one of the four Inns a pre-requisite to Call at King's Inns until late in the 19th century. In the 17th and 18th centuries, students came from the American colonies and from many of the West Indian islands. The Inn's records would lead one to suppose that for a time there was hardly a young gentleman in Charleston who had not studied here. Five of the signatories to the Declaration of Independence were Middle Templars, and notwithstanding it and its consequences, Americans continued to come here until the War of 1812”.

All Bar Association licensed Attorneys must keep the terms of their oath to the Crown Temple in order to be accepted or “called to Bar” at any of the King’s Inns. Their oath, pledge, and terms of allegiance are made to the Crown Temple.

It’s a real eye opener to know that the Middle Inn of the Crown Temple has publicly acknowledged there were at least five Templar Bar Attornies, under solemn oath only to the Crown, who signed what was alleged to be an American Declaration of Independence. This simply means that both parties to the Declaration agreement were of the same origin, the Crown Temple. In case you don’t understand the importance of this, there is no international agreement or treaty that will ever be honored, or will ever have lawful effect, when the same party signs as both the first and second parties. It’s merely a worthless piece of paper with no lawful authority when both sides to any agreement are actually the same. In reality, the American Declaration of Independence was nothing more than an internal memo of the Crown Temple made among its private members.

By example, Alexander Hamilton was one of those numerous Crown Templars who was called to their Bar. In 1774, he entered King's College in New York City, which was funded by members of the London King’s Inns, now named Columbia University. In 1777, he became a personal aide and private secretary to George Washington during the American Revolution.

In May of 1782, Hamilton began studying law in Albany, New York, and within six months had completed a three year course of studies, passed his examinations, and was admitted to the New York Bar. Of course, the New York Bar Association was/is a franchise of the Crown Temple through the Middle Inn. After a year's service in Congress during the 1782-1783 session, he settled down to legal practice in New York City as Alexander Hamilton, Esqr. In February of 1784, he wrote the charter for, and became a founding member of, the Bank of New York, the State's first bank.

He secured a place on the New York delegation to the Federal Convention of 1787 at Philadelphia. In a five hour speech on June 18th, he stated “an Executive for life will be an elective Monarch”. When all his anti-Federalist New York colleagues withdrew from the Convention in protest, he alone signed the Constitution for the United States of America representing New York State, one of the legal Crown States (Colonies).

One should particularly notice that a lawful state is made up of the people, but a State is a legal entity of the Crown - a Crown Colony. This is an example of the deceptive ways the Crown Temple - Middle Templars - have taken control of America since the beginning of our settlements.

Later, as President Washington’s U.S. Treasury Secretary, Hamilton alone laid the foundation of the first Federal U.S. Central Bank, secured credit loans through Crown banks in France and the Netherlands, and increased the power of the Federal Government over the hoodwinked nation-states of the Union. Hamilton had never made a secret of the fact that he admired the government and fiscal policies of Great Britain.

Americans were fooled into believing that the legal Crown Colonies comprising New England were independent nation states, but they never were nor are today. They were and still are Colonies of the Crown Temple, through letters patent and charters, who have no legal authority to be independent from the Rule and Order of the Crown Temple. A legal State is a Crown Temple Colony.

Neither the American people nor the Queen of Britain own America. The Crown Temple owns America through the deception of those who have sworn their allegiance by oath to the Middle Templar Bar. The Crown Bankers and their Middle Templar Attornies Rule America through unlawful contracts, unlawful taxes, and contract documents of false equity through debt deceit, all strictly enforced by their completely unlawful, but “legal”, Orders, Rules and Codes of the Crown Temple Courts, our so-called “judiciary” in America. This is because the Crown Temple holds the land titles and estate deeds to all of North America.

The biggest lie is what the Crown and its agents refer to as “the rule of law”. In reality, it is not about law at all, but solely about the Crown Rule of all nations. For example, just read what President Bush stated on November 13, 2001, regarding the “rule of law:”

“Our countries are embarked on a new relationship for the 21st century, founded on a commitment to the values of democracy, the free market, and the rule of law.” - Joint Statement by President George W. Bush and President Vladimir V. Putin on 11/13/01, spoken from the White House, Washington D.C.

What happened in 1776?

"Whoever owns the soil, owns all the way to the heavens and to the depths of the earth." - Old Latin maxim and Roman expression.

1776 is the year that will truly live in infamy for all Americans. It is the year that the Crown Colonies became legal Crown States. The Declaration of Independence was a legal, not lawful, document. It was signed on both sides by representatives of the Crown Temple. Legally, it announced the status quo of the Crown Colonies to that of the new legal name called “States” as direct possessive estates of the Crown (see the definitions above to understand the legal trickery that was done).

The American people were hoodwinked into thinking they were declaring lawful independence from the Crown. Proof that the Colonies are still in Crown possession is the use of the word “State” to signify a “legal estate of possession.” Had this been a document of and by the people, both the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution would have been written using the word “states”. By the use of “State,” the significance of a government of estate possession was legally established. All of the North American States are Crown Templar possessions through their legal document, signed by their representation of both parties to the contract, known as the Constitution of the United States of America.

All “Constitutional Rights” in America are simply those dictated by the Crown Temple and enforced by the Middle Inn Templars (Bar Attorners) through their franchise and corporate government entity, the federal United States Government. When a “State Citizen” attempts to invoke his “constitutional”, natural, or common law “rights” in Chancery (equity courts), he is told they don’t apply. Why? Simply because a State citizen has no rights outside of the Rule and Codes of Crown “law”. Only a state citizen has natural and common law rights by the paramount authority of God’s Law.

The people who comprise the citizenry of a state are recognized only within natural and common law as is already established by God’s Law. Only a State Citizen can be a party to an action within a State Court. A common state citizen cannot be recognized in that court because he doesn’t legally exist in Crown Chancery Courts. In order to be recognized in their State Courts, the common man must be converted to that of a corporate or legal entity (a legal fiction).

Now you know why they create such an entity using all capital letters within Birth Certificates issued by the State. They convert the common lawful man of God into a fictional legal entity subject to Administration by State Rules, Orders and Codes (there is no “law” within any Rule or Code). Of course, Rules, Codes, etc. do not apply to the lawful common man of the Lord of lords, so the man with inherent Godly law and rights must be converted into a legal “Person” of fictional “status” (another legal term) in order for their legal - but completely unlawful – State Judiciary (Chancery Courts) to have authority over him. Chancery Courts are tribunal courts where the decisions of “justice” are decided by 3 “judges”. This is a direct result of the Crown Temple having invoked their Rule and Code over all judicial courts.

“It is held to be a settled Rule, that our courts can not take notice of any title to land not derived from the State or Colonial government, and duly verified by patent.” -4 Johns. Rep. 163. Jackson v. Waters, 12 Johns. Rep. 365. S.P.

The Crown Temple was granted Letters Patent (see definition above) and Charters (definition below) for all the land (Colonies) of New England by the King of England, a sworn member of the Middle Temple (as the Queen is now). Since the people were giving the patent/charter corporations and Colonial Governours such a hard time, especially concerning Crown taxation, a scheme was devised to allow the Americans to believe they were being granted “independence.” Remember, the Crown Templars represented both parties to the 1776 Declaration of Independence; and, as we are about to see, the latter 1787 U.S. Constitution.

To have this “Declaration” recognized by international treaty law, and in order to establish the new legal Crown entity of the incorporated United States, Middle Templar King George III agreed to the Treaty of Paris on September 3, 1783, “between the Crown of Great Britain and the said United States”. The Crown of Great Britain legally was, then and now, the Crown Temple. This formally gave international recognition to the corporate “United States”, the new Crown Temple States (Colonies). Most important is to know who the actual signatories to the Treaty of Paris were. Take particular note to the abbreviation “Esqr.” following their names (see above definition for ESQUIRE) as this legally signifies “Officers of the King’s Courts”, which we now know were Templar Courts or Crown Courts. This is the same Crown Templar Title given to Alexander Hamilton (see above).

The Crown was represented in signature by “David Hartley, Esqr.”, a Middle Templar of the King’s Court. Representing the United States (a Crown franchise) by signature was “John Adams, Esqr”, “Benjamin Franklin, Esqr.” and “John Jay, Esqr.” The signatories for the “United States” were also Middle Templars of the King’s Court through Bar Association membership. What is plainly written in history proves, once again, that the Crown Temple was representing both parties to the agreement. What a perfect and elaborate scam the people of North America had pulled on them!

It becomes even more obvious when you read Article 5, which states in part,

“to provide for the Restitution of all Estates, Rights, and Properties which have been confiscated, belonging to real British Subjects.”

The Crown Colonies were granted to “persons” and corporations of the Crown Temple through Letters Patent and Charters, and the North American Colonial land was owned by the Crown.

Now, here’s a real catch-all in Article 4:

“It is agreed that creditors on either side shall meet with no lawful impediment to the recovery of the full value in sterling money of all bona fide debts heretofore contracted.”

Since the Crown and its Templars represented both the United States, as the debtors, and the Crown, as the creditors, then they became the creditor of the American people by owning all debts of the former Colonies, now called the legal Crown States. This sounds too good to be true, but these are the facts. The words SCAM and HOODWINKED can’t begin to describe what had taken place.

So then, what debts were owed to the Crown Temple and their banks as of 1883? In the Contract Between the King and the Thirteen United States of North America, signed at Versailles July 16, 1782, Article I states,

“It is agreed and certified that the sums advanced by His Majesty to the Congress of the United States under the title of a loan, in the years 1778, 1779, 1780, 1781, and the present 1782, amount to the sum of eighteen million of livres, money of France, according to the following twenty-one receipts of the above-mentioned underwritten Minister of Congress, given in virtue of his full powers, to wit…”

That amount equals about $18 million dollars, plus interest, that Hamilton’s U.S. Central Bank owed the Crown through Crown Bank loans in France. This was signed, on behalf of the United States, by an already familiar Middle Templar, Benjamin Franklin, Esquire.

An additional $6 million dollars (six million livres) was loaned to the United States at 5% interest by the same parties in a similar Contract signed on February 25, 1783. The Crown Bankers in the Netherlands and France were calling in their debts for payment by future generations of Americans.

The Fiscal Agents of Mystery Babylon

Since its beginnings, the Temple Church at the City of London has been a Knight Templar secret society. It was built and established by the same Temple Knights who were given their Rule and Order by the Roman Pope. It’s very important to know how the British Royal Crown was placed into the hands of the Knights Templars, and how the Crown Templars became the fiscal and military agents for the Pope of the Roman Church.

This all becomes very clear through the Concession Of England To The Pope on May 15, 1213.charter was sworn in fealty by England’s King John to Pope Innocent and the Roman Church. It was witnessed before the Crown Templars, as King John stated upon sealing the same,

“I myself bearing witness in the house of the Knights Templars.”

Pay particular attention to the words being used that we have defined below, especially charter, fealty, demur, and concession:

We wish it to be known to all of you, through this our charter, furnished with our seal… not induced by force or compelled by fear, but of our own good and spontaneous will and by the common counsel of our barons, do offer and freely concede to God and His holy apostles Peter and Paul and to our mother the holy Roman church, and to our lord pope Innocent and to his Catholic successors, the whole kingdom of England and the whole kingdom Ireland, with all their rights and appurtenances… we perform and swear fealty for them to him our aforesaid lord pope Innocent, and his catholic successors and the Roman church… binding our successors and our heirs by our wife forever, in similar manner to perform fealty and show homage to him who shall be chief pontiff at that time, and to the Roman church without demur. As a sign… we will and establish perpetual obligation and concession… from the proper and especial revenues of our aforesaid kingdoms… the Roman church shall receive yearly a thousand marks sterling… saving to us and to our heirs our rights, liberties and regalia; all of which things, as they have been described above, we wish to have perpetually valid and firm; and we bind ourselves and our successors not to act counter to them. And if we or any one of our successors shall presume to attempt this, whoever he be, unless being duly warned he come to his kingdom, and this senses, be shall lose his right to the kingdom, and this charter of our obligation and concession shall always remain firm.

Most who have commented on this charter only emphasize the payments due the Pope and the Roman Church. What should be emphasized is the fact that King John broke the terms of this charter by signing the Magna Carta on June 15, 1215. Remember; the penalty for breaking the 1213 agreement was the loss of the Crown (right to the kingdom) to the Pope and his Roman Church. It says so quite plainly. To formally and lawfully take the Crown from the royal monarchs of England by an act of declaration, on August 24, 1215, Pope Innocent III annulled the Magna Carta; later in the year, he placed an Interdict (prohibition) on the entire British empire. From that time until today, the English monarchy and the entire British Crown belonged to the Pope.

The following definitions are all taken from Webster’s 1828 Dictionary since the meanings have not been perverted for nearly 200 years:

FEALTY, n. [L. fidelis.] Fidelity to a lord; faithful adherence of a tenant or vassal to the superior of whom he holds his lands; loyalty. Under the feudal system of tenures, every vassal or tenant was bound to be true and faithful to his lord, and to defend him against all his enemies. This obligation was called his fidelity or fealty, and an oath of fealty was required to be taken by all tenants to their landlords. The tenant was called a liege man; the land, a liege fee; and the superior, liege lord.

FEE, n. [In English, is loan. This word, fee, inland, or an estate in trust, originated among the descendants of the northern conquerors of Italy, but it originated in the south of Europe. See Feud.] Primarily, a loan of land, an estate in trust, granted by a prince or lord, to be held by the grantee on condition of personal service, or other condition; and if the grantee or tenant failed to perform the conditions, the land reverted to the lord or donor, called the landlord, or lend-lord, the lord of the loan. A fee then is any land or tenement held of a superior on certain conditions. It is synonymous with fief and feud. In the United States, an estate in fee or fee simple is what is called in English law an allodial estate, an estate held by a person in his own right, and descendible to the heirs in general.

FEUD, n. [L. fides; Eng. loan.] A fief; a fee; a right to lands or hereditaments held in trust, or on the terms of performing certain conditions; the right which a vassal or tenant has to the lands or other immovable thing of his lord, to use the same and take the profits thereof hereditarily, rendering to his superior such duties and services as belong to military tenure, &c., the property of the soil always remaining in the lord or superior.

By swearing to the 1213 Charter in fealty, King John declared that the British-English Crown and its possessions at that time, including all future possessions, estates, trusts, charters, letters patent, and land, were forever bound to the Pope and the Roman Church, the landlord. Some five hundred years later, the New England Colonies in America became a part of the Crown as a possession and trust named the “United States.”

ATTORNING, ppr. Acknowledging a new lord, or transferring homage and fealty to the purchaser of an estate.

Bar Attorneys have been attorning ever since they were founded at the Temple Church, by acknowledging that the Crown and he who holds the Crown is the new lord of the land.

CHARTER, n. 1. A written instrument, executed with usual forms, given as evidence of a grant, contract, or whatever is done between man and man. In its more usual sense, it is the instrument of a grant conferring powers, rights and privileges, either from a king or other sovereign power, or from a private person, as a charter of exemption, that no person shall be empanelled on a jury, a charter of pardon, &c. The charters under which most of the colonies in America were settled, were given by the king of England, and incorporated certain persons, with powers to hold the lands granted, to establish a government, and make laws for their own regulation. These were called charter-governments.

By agreeing to the Magna Carta, King John had broken the agreement terms of his fealty with Rome and the Pope.

The Pope and his Roman Church control the Crown Temple because his Knights established it under his Orders. He who controls the gold controls the world.

The Crown Temple Today

The workings of the Crown Temple in this day and age is moreso obvious, yet somewhat hidden. The Crown Templars have many names and many symbols to signify their private and unholy Temple. Take a close look at the (alleged) one dollar $1 private Federal Reserve System (a Crown banking franchise) Debt Note.

Notice in the base of the pyramid the Roman date MDCCLXXVI which is written in Roman numerals for the year 1776. The words ANNUIT COEPTIS NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM are Roman Latin for ANNOUNCING THE BIRTH OF THE NEW ORDER OF THE WORLD. Go back to the definitions above and pay particular attention to the words CAPITOL, CROWN and TEMPLE. 1776 signifies the birth of the New World Order under the Crown Temple. That’s when their American Crown Colonies became the chartered government called the United States, thanks to the Declaration of Independence. Since that date, the United Nations (another legal Crown Temple by charter) rose up and refers to every nation as a State member.

The Wizard of Oz = the Crown Temple

This is not a mere child’s story written by L. Frank Baum. What symbol does “Oz” stand for? Ounces.Gold What is the yellow brick road? Bricks or ingot bars of gold.

The character known as the Straw Man represents that fictitious ALL CAPS legal fiction - a PERSON - the Federal U.S. Government created with the same spelling as your Christian birth name. Remember what the Straw Man wanted from the Wizard of Oz? A brain! No legal fiction has a brain because they have no breath of life! What did he get in place of a brain? A Certificate. A Birth Certificate for a new legal creation. He was proud of his new legal status, plus all the other legalisms he was granted. Now he becomes the true epitome of the brainless sack of straw who was given a Certificate in place of a brain of common sense.

What about the Tin Man? Does Taxpayer Identification Number (TIN) mean anything to you? The poor TIN Man just stood there mindlessly doing his work until his body literally froze up and stopped functioning. He worked himself to death because he had no heart nor soul. He’s the heartless and emotionless creature robotically carrying out his daily task as if he was already dead. He’s the ox pulling the plow and the mule toiling under the yoke. His masters keep him cold on the outside and heartless on the inside in order to control any emotions or heart he may get a hold of.

The pitiful Cowardly Lion was always too frightened to stand up for himself. Of course, he was a bully and a big mouth when it came to picking on those smaller than he was. They act as if they have great courage, but they really have none at all. All roar with no teeth of authority to back them up. When push came to shove, the Cowardly Lion always buckled under and whimpered when anyone of any size or stature challenged him. He wanted courage from the Grand Wizard, so he was awarded a medal of “official” recognition. Now, regardless of how much of a coward he still was, his official status made him a bully with officially recognized authority. He’s just like the Attorneys who hide behind the Middle Courts of the Temple Bar.

What about the trip through the field of poppies? They weren’t real people, so drugs had no effect on them. The Wizard of Oz was written at the turn of the century, so how could the author have known America was going to be drugged? The Crown has been playing the drug cartel game for centuries. Just look up the history of Hong Kong and the Opium Wars. The Crown already had valuable experience conquering all of China with drugs, so why not the rest of the world?

Who finally exposed the Wizard for what he really was? Toto, the ugly (or cute, depending on your perspective) and somewhat annoying little dog. Toto means “in total, all together; Latin in toto.” Notice how Toto was not scared of the Great Wizard’s theatrics, yet he was so small in size compared to the Wizard, no-one seemed to notice him. The smoke, flames and hologram images were designed to frighten people into doing as the Great Wizard of Oz commanded. Toto simply went over, looked behind the curtain – the court - (see the definition for curtain above), saw it was a scam, and started barking until others paid attention to him and came to see what all the barking was about.Just an ordinary person controlling the levers that created the illusions of the Great Wizard’s power and authority. The veil hiding the corporate legal fiction and its false courts was removed. The Wizard’s game was up. It’s too bad that people don’t realize how loud a bark from a little dog is. How about your bark? Do you just remain silent and wait to be given whatever food and recognition, if any, your legal master gives you?

Let’s not forget those pesky flying monkeys. What a perfect mythical creature to symbolize the Bar Association Attorners who attack and control all the little people for the Great Crown Wizard, the powerful and grand Bankers of Oz - Gold.

What is it going to take to expose the Wizard and tear down the court veil for what they really are? Each of us needs only a brain, a heart and soul, and courage. Then, and most importantly, we all need to learn how to work together. Only “in toto,” working together as one Body of the King of Kings, can we ever be free or have the freedom given under God’s Law.

Mystery Babylon Revealed

There is no mystery behind the current abomination of Babylon for those who discern His Truth:

-Revelation 17:5

God has reserved His judgment for the great idolatress, Rome, the chief seat of all idolatry, that rules over many nations with whom the kings have committed to the worship of her idols (see Revelation 17:1-4). The Pope and His purported Church; sitting on the Temple throne at the Vatican; ruling the nations of the earth through the Crown Temple of ungodly deities are the Rule and Order of Babylon; the Crown of godlessness and the Code of commerce.

One may call the Rule of the world today by many names: The New World Order (a Bush family favourite), the Third Way (spoken by Tony Blair and Bill Clinton), the Illuminati, Triad, Triangle, Trinity, Masonry, the United Nations, the EU, the US, or many dozens of other names. However, they all point to one origin and one beginning. We have traced this in history to the Crown Temple, the Temple Church circa 1200. Because the Pope created the Order of the Temple Knights (the Grand Wizards of deception) and established their mighty Temple Church in the sovereign City of London, it is the Pope and his Roman Capitols who control the world.

“And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication”
-Revelation 17:4

This verse appears to be an accurate description of the Pope and His Bishops for the past 1,700 years. The idolatries of commerce in the world: all the gold and silver; the iron and soft metals; the money and coins and riches of the world: All of these are under the control of the Crown Temple; the Roman King and his false Church; the throne of Babylon; attended to by his Templar Knights, the Wizards of abomination and idolatry.

“The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman [mother of harlots] sitteth” - Revelation 17:9

The only mention of “seven mountains” within our present-day Bible is at Revelation 17:9, so it’s no wonder this has been a mystery to the current Body of Christ. The 1611 King James (who was a Crown Templar) Bible is not the entire canon of the early church (“church” in Latin ecclesia; in Greek ekklesia). This in itself is no mystery as history records the existence and destruction of these early church writings; just as history has now proven their genuine authenticity with the appearance of the Dead Sea Scrolls and the coptic library at Nag Hagmadi in Egypt, among many other recent Greek language discoveries within the past 100 years.

The current Holy Bible quotes the Book of Enoch numerous times:

By faith Enoch was taken away so that he did not see death, "and was not found, because God had taken him"; for before he was taken he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
- Hebrews 11:5

Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, "Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him."
- Jude 1:14-15

The Book of Enoch was considered scripture by most early Christians. The earliest literature of the so-called "Church Fathers" is filled with references to this mysterious book. The second century Epistle of Barnabus makes much use of the Book of Enoch. Second and Third Century "Church Fathers," such as Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Origin and Clement of Alexandria, all make use of the Book of Enoch "Holy Scripture". The Ethiopic Church included the Book of Enoch to its official canon. It was widely known and read the first three centuries after Christ. However, this and many other books became discredited after the Roman Council of Laodicea. Being under ban of the Roman Papal authorities, afterwards they gradually passed out of circulation.

At about the time of the Protestant Reformation, there was a renewed interest in the Book of Enoch, which had long since been lost to the modern world. By the late 1400's, rumors began to spread that a copy of the long lost Book of Enoch might still exist. During this time, many books arose claiming to be the lost book but were later found to be forgeries.

The return of the Book of Enoch to the modern western world is credited to the famous explorer James Bruce, who in 1773 returned from six years in Abyssinia with three Ethiopic copies of the lost book. In 1821, Richard Laurence published the first English translation. The now famous R.H. Charles edition was first published by Oxford Press in 1912. In the following years, several portions of the Greek text also surfaced. Then, with the discovery of cave number four of the Dead Sea Scrolls, seven fragmentary copies of the Aramaic text were discovered.

Within the Book of Enoch is revealed one of the mysteries of Babylon concerning the seven mountains she sits upon (underlining has been added):

[CHAPTER 52] 2 There mine eyes saw all the secret things of heaven that shall be; a mountain of iron, a mountain of copper, a mountain of silver, a mountain of gold, a mountain of soft metal, and a mountain of lead.

6 These [6] mountains which thine eyes have seen: The mountain of iron, the mountain of copper, the mountain of silver, the mountain of gold, the mountain of soft metal, and the mountain of lead. All these shall be in the presence of the Elect One as wax: Before the fire, like the water which streams down from above upon those mountains, and they shall become powerless before his feet. 7 It shall come to pass in those days that none shall be saved, either by gold or by silver, and none be able to escape. 8 There shall be no iron for war, nor shall one clothe oneself with a breastplate. Bronze shall be of no service, tin shall be of no service and shall not be esteemed, and lead shall not be desired. 9 All these things shall be denied and destroyed from the surface of the earth when the Elect One shall appear before the face of the Lord of Spirits.’

[CHAPTER 24] 3 The seventh mountain was in the midst of these, and it excelled them in height, resembling the seat of a throne; and fragrant trees encircled the throne.

[CHAPTER 25] 3 And he answered saying: ‘This high mountain which thou hast seen, whose summit is like the throne of God, is His throne, where the Holy Great One, the Lord of Glory, the Eternal King, will sit, when He shall come down to visit the earth with goodness. 4 As for this fragrant tree, no mortal is permitted to touch it until the great judgement when He shall take vengeance on all and bring (everything) to its consummation for ever. 5 It shall then be given to the righteous and Holy. Its fruit shall be for food to the elect: It shall be transplanted to the Holy place, to the temple of the Lord, the Eternal King. 6 Then shall they rejoice with joy and be glad, and into the Holy place shall they enter; its fragrance shall be in their bones and they shall live a long life on earth, such as thy fathers lived: In their days shall no sorrow, or plague, or torment, or calamity touch them.’

The present wealth and power of all the world’s gold, silver, tin, bronze, pearls, diamonds, gemstones, iron, and copper belonging the Babylon whore, and held in the treasuries of her Crown Templar banks and deep stony vaults, will not be able to save them at the time of the Lord’s judgment.

But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves], neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
– Matthew 23:13

Where do we go from here?

Now that their false Temple has been exposed, how does this apply to the Kingdom of Heaven? To reach the end, you must know the beginning. For everything ordained of God, there is an imitation ordained of evil that looks like the genuine thing. There is the knowledge of good and the knowledge of evil. The problem is, most believe they have the knowledge of God when what they really have is knowledge of world deceptions operating as gods. The only way to discern and begin to understand the Kingdom of Heaven is to seek the Knowledge that comes only from God, not the knowledge of men who take their legal claim as earthly rulers and gods.

The false Crown Temple and its Grand Wizard Knights have led the world to believe that they are of the Lord God and hold the knowledge and keys to His Kingdom. What they hold within their Temples are the opposite. They claim to be the “Holy Church,” but which holy church? The real one or the false one? Are the Pope and his Roman Church the Temple of God, or is this the unholy Temple of Babylon sitting upon the seven mountains?

They use the same words, but alter them to show the true meaning they have applied: The State is not a state; a Certificate is not a certification. The Roman Church is not the church (ekklesia). There is the Crown of the Lord; and a Crown of that which is not of the Lord. All imitations appear to be the genuine article, but they are fakes. Those who are truly seeking the genuine Kingdom of God must allow the Lord to show them the discernment between the genuine and the imitation. Without this discernment by the Holy Spirit, all will remain fooled by the illusions of false deity emanating from the unholy spirits of the Wizards.

Neither shall they say, Lo here! Or, lo there! For behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
- Luke 17:21

Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the FATHER'S kingdom is within you and it is outside you."
– Gospel of Thomas 3

Don’t you know that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God lives in you?
– 1 Corinthians 3:16

Jesus said, "Know what is in front of your face, and what is hidden from you will be disclosed to you. For there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed. [And there is nothing buried that will not be raised."]
– Gospel of Thomas 5


Posted by askmorequestions @ 12/09/2002 04:03 AM EST


Thank you. You have more than answered some of my questions.

Jon Carl Skoglund
"God gave a free man a clearing in the forest."

Posted by Free Man @ 12/09/2002 10:41 AM EST

All religion is a load of nonsense. It may well be a cliche but it only exists to give us some overall sense of direction or purpose. Unfortunately the majority of us are too weak-minded to rise above its limitations and blindly follow the first theory thrown in our direction. Even though we may not believe or even disregard these theories we still seem to have a prevailing sub-conscious attitude that wills us to follow. I put this down to our own fears and insecurities. The people who rise above these fears are the Bush's and the Bin Ladens (and probably most religious icons such as Jesus etc) of the world who seem able to manipulate the masses to go along with any old shit. In writing this I make no claim to have any superior knowledge or wisdom from anyone else, I just beleive I'm having a moment of clarity. It would be great to think that if I'm a good boy then I'll go to heaven. Life is no longer simple. There are too many people talking at once that it's impossible to know what to believe. I think I might just stop listening.

Posted by SilentMover @ 12/09/2002 11:42 AM EST

All religion is a load of nonsense. It may well be a cliche but it only exists to give us some overall sense of direction or purpose. Unfortunately the majority of us are too weak-minded to rise above its limitations and blindly follow the first theory thrown in our direction. Even though we may not believe or even disregard these theories we still seem to have a prevailing sub-conscious attitude that wills us to follow. I put this down to our own fears and insecurities. The people who rise above these fears are the Bush's and the Bin Ladens (and probably most religious icons such as Jesus etc) of the world who seem able to manipulate the masses to go along with any old shit. In writing this I make no claim to have any superior knowledge or wisdom from anyone else, I just beleive I'm having a moment of clarity. It would be great to think that if I'm a good boy then I'll go to heaven. Life is no longer simple. There are too many people talking at once that it's impossible to know what to believe. I think I might just stop listening.

Posted by SilentMover @ 12/09/2002 11:43 AM EST

All religion is a load of nonsense. It may well be a cliche but it only exists to give us some overall sense of direction or purpose. Unfortunately the majority of us are too weak-minded to rise above its limitations and blindly follow the first theory thrown in our direction. Even though we may not believe or even disregard these theories we still seem to have a prevailing sub-conscious attitude that wills us to follow. I put this down to our own fears and insecurities. The people who rise above these fears are the Bush's and the Bin Ladens (and probably most religious icons such as Jesus etc) of the world who seem able to manipulate the masses to go along with any old shit. In writing this I make no claim to have any superior knowledge or wisdom from anyone else, I just beleive I'm having a moment of clarity. It would be great to think that if I'm a good boy then I'll go to heaven. Life is no longer simple. There are too many people talking at once that it's impossible to know what to believe. I think I might just stop listening.

Posted by SilentMover @ 12/09/2002 11:46 AM EST

All religion is a load of nonsense. It may well be a cliche but it only exists to give us some overall sense of direction or purpose. Unfortunately the majority of us are too weak-minded to rise above its limitations and blindly follow the first theory thrown in our direction. Even though we may not believe or even disregard these theories we still seem to have a prevailing sub-conscious attitude that wills us to follow. I put this down to our own fears and insecurities. The people who rise above these fears are the Bush's and the Bin Ladens (and probably most religious icons such as Jesus etc) of the world who seem able to manipulate the masses to go along with any old shit. In writing this I make no claim to have any superior knowledge or wisdom from anyone else, I just beleive I'm having a moment of clarity. It would be great to think that if I'm a good boy then I'll go to heaven. Life is no longer simple. There are too many people talking at once that it's impossible to know what to believe. I think I might just stop listening.

Posted by SilentMover @ 12/09/2002 11:49 AM EST

Palestinians arrest al-Qaeda 'poseurs'

December 8 2002

Palestinian security forces have arrested a group of Palestinians for collaborating with Israel and posing as operatives of Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda terrorist network, a senior official said yesterday.

The arrests come two days after Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon charged al-Qaeda militants were operating in Gaza and in Lebanon.

"The Palestinian Authority arrested a group of collaborators who confessed they were working for Israel, posing as al-Qaeda operatives in the Palestinian territories," said the official, on condition of anonymity.

He said the alleged collaborators sought to "discredit the Palestinian people, justify every Israeli crime and provide reasons to carry out a new (military) aggression in the Gaza Strip."

The official did not say how many suspects had been arrested, nor where or when they were nabbed.

Earlier, international cooperation minister Nabil Shaath announced he would hold a press conference here on the alleged presence of al-Qaeda operatives in the Gaza Strip.

Sharon's announcement marked the first time Israel officially claimed that al-Qaeda, held responsible for the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United States, was operating in the Palestinian territories.

It was considered a surprise because the Gaza Strip is virtually sealed off by Israeli troops.

The hardline Israeli leader also charged other members of the terror group were cooperating with Lebanon's Shi'ite militia Hizbollah.

The Palestinians slammed the allegation as "totally absurd" and accused Sharon of trying to piggyback on the US-led "war against terrorism" to strengthen his military operations against militants in the territories.

Both the Lebanese government and Hizbollah made similar statements.

A US citizen of Syrian descent was arrested last month at Ben Gurion airport in Tel Aviv on suspicion of transferring funds to terrorist organisations in general, and those connected to al-Qaeda in particular.

Three Israelis and 10 Kenyans were killed in a suicide attack on a hotel near the Kenyan port of Mombasa last Thursday, shortly after missiles narrowly missed an Israeli charter flight taking off from there with 261 passengers.

The attacks were purportedly claimed by al-Qaeda on an Islamic website.

Meanwhile, Israeli troops backed by tanks and helicopter gunships swept into the Bureij refugee camp in the Gaza Strip yesterday, sparking a gun battle and killing 10 people, Palestinian witnesses and medics said.

Army officials said the troops had met fierce resistance in the three-hour pre-dawn incursion, which it said was intended to root out militants responsible for attacks on troops in Gaza in a more than two-year Palestinian uprising for independence.



Posted by Raul @ 12/09/2002 11:53 AM EST

Why was the article, "How Conspiracy Kooks Became More Credible Than The White House" removed?

Posted by Raul @ 12/09/2002 11:55 AM EST

i think askmorequestions has just answered a lot of mine. suddenly everything becomes clear.

Posted by robbie @ 12/09/2002 02:24 PM EST

To AskMoreQuestions: AMEN.

Psalm 141:8
"But mine eyes are unto Thee, O God, the Lord: in Thee is my trust; leave not my soul destitute. Keep me from the snares which they have laid for me, and the gins of the workers of iniquity. Let the wicked fall into their own nets, whilst that I withal escape."

Posted by Florence @ 12/09/2002 02:59 PM EST

Hi vox. Well. i come home from work where the women all giddy about selling $50 worth of chocolate mice at local strip mall, check out your site, and learn that a) dubya has a "male sex-partner" and b) the u.s. of a. has always legally been owned by the crown templars.
Re a): Too bad dubya hasn't outed himself--might help increase tolerance for our persecuted gay people (and i believe his "sex-partner" is a person of color, putting 2 and 2 together w/something else i came across a while ago, so a good outing would help racial tensions here, too).
Re b): Info from askmorequestions rather overwhelming (you sure do attract some excellent thinkers/writers to your unique site)--my first defensive (human) reaction (to having boundaries of known paradigm blown out--though i should have been alerted by that unratified original 1st amendment) was to think that much of the dastardly doings described actually transpired on the mental level--all this passing of laws and swearing of fealties, sneaking in Esq. signatories on both sides, etc, etc--like little boys forming neighborhood clubs--
But then recollected that i've always known that something is terribly wrong on this planet (for instance,if we are truly made in the image of God and have this great Light within us, why is it so damn hard to find it, let alone stay w/it?) (and please don't anyone take this as a call for spiritual exhortation/elucidation postings)--and then remembered that fascist regimes usually go for the intellectuals (mental-level dudes) in 1st round-up--a few stray thoughts of dark force 4th-dimensional machinations--and it all began to click.
So--lower case from now on, and caps only when i mean it--
Peace and Freedom, kathleen beatty

Posted by kathleen beatty @ 12/09/2002 04:26 PM EST


What a piece of work! I completed the first year of an ABA law school, and wondered why I abhorred the school, profs, judges, and lawyers so much that I couldn't stomach returning for more. Lord, I was spared taking a Satanic oath to the Crown. Thanks for making me realize that. Thanks Vox for providing this forum where we can meet people who actually know something.


Posted by Webb Cook @ 12/09/2002 05:45 PM EST

the machine is out of oil and i feel fine in the dawning of our time..the evil in this world is about to hit a love cog..

Posted by love against the machine @ 12/09/2002 05:54 PM EST

Eminent distruction to all he sudues. While standing over the pot of evil he brews. I smell something fishy in this sewage he stews. At the top of the mountain he grins like a fool. Drools as he stirs his gruel. Fooled because we choosed a tool. Who knew this tool would have no shame. Killing innocent Americans for capital gain. Like ours, his end is the same. No one will remain after the bright white light, or when God judges him begging for his life. Or when a mob bludgens him fighting for the right to not be trapped in his cauldron of debt, pain and recession, maybe then he'd learn his lesson. I'm guessing not because as the river of blood thickens so does the plot. Stop humanities insanity, believe in the power we've got.

Posted by poet @ 12/09/2002 06:46 PM EST


I'm one who did read your article about the dirty bomb–one of the first from this site that I read–and followed it with a search about the Neil Bush/Scott Hinckley dinner. I had some knowledge about the NWO order (Bilderbergers etc.), how media (here in Canada anyway) is connected to governments (and runs them) and was already aware of many of the realities of the 9/11 attacks and what followed. But, it was that story concerning the Bush/Hinckley connection that pulled all the pieces together, that and the ongoing research that spun off of it.

There's no doubt now as to who's doing the handiwork for the NWO. There's also no doubt as to how far they'll go. But, with what's happening now they've also shown their achilles heel. The people they select to do their dirty work aren't just the most unprincipled and ruthless they can find, they're also the dumbest. George Jr. is so stupid, and so in love with the dramatic that his bullshit is becoming more transparent by the day. Living on the Canada/US border I get full access to mainstream news from both of our countries. Oil (for example), which was almost never mentioned as a factor in "The War on (for) Terror", is now talked about regularly. More and more news items contain skepticism concerning the impending War against Iraq.

Does this mean the media is becoming honest? Hardly. It's as much the slave of it's corporate demigods as ever and always will be. References to details like bombing hell out of the "no-fly zones" are still assidiously avoided. Anyone wanting truth still needs to come here and to other sites/forums like it. You're right vox, people do have an appetite for truth. By and large, the populations of both our nations are still asleep but they do seem more receptive to truth than they used to be. Maybe the Bush capacity for spewing bullshit overloaded their capacity to absorb it? Who knows? All I know is that if everyone who becomes aware and awake manages to do the same to a few others and starts putting pressure on their locally elected officials (which I have done–it was interesting seeing a few lightbulbs coming on that first day) it's not long before something can and will be done. As William Guy Carr, author of "Pawns in the Game" so astutely said, "the only reason evil men have their way is because good men stand by and do nothing"

Be active people. It's the only real choice we have. There may be a god who is our provider and saviour, but if that's the case, he also gave us free will along with the abilities to reason, think and act; in short, he's made us responsible for ourselves. We made this mess by standing and doing nothing: he's not going to solve it for us. He may give us the tools–if one thinks about it we already have them–but it's up to us to act.

They do know who we all are. So what! Be proud of it. Stand and be counted. Make your views known. Nothing will be accomplished by hiding.

Thanks for this site vox. It's an inspiration and a breath of fresh air.


Posted by Brian Hay @ 12/09/2002 06:46 PM EST

Some readers inquired as to the identity of Bush's male lover. Evidence points to this man, Victor Ashe, mayor of Knoxville, Tenn., who graduated from Yale a year before Bush and ran against Gore for the Senate in 1984.

Ashe, who was the political editor of the Yale Daily News, counts the Bushes as old family friends — their families had homes on the same Florida island.

Ashe and Bush are members of Skull and Bones. As reported by Sherman Skolnick, members of foreign news services have damning S&B tomb photos.

Posted by Gino @ 12/09/2002 09:14 PM EST

I'm sure big mistakes were made.
But to say ANYONE should be killed is very wrong.


Posted by Pete @ 12/09/2002 09:38 PM EST

"WASHINGTON (AP) - American citizens... can legally be targeted and killed by the CIA under President Bush's rules for the war on terrorism, U.S. officials say."

I agree, Pete.

Posted by Masonic Initiate @ 12/09/2002 11:49 PM EST

Hi vox--Thanks to Gino for info--and shame on dubya for cheating on his lover.
Peace and Freedom, kathleen

Posted by kathleen beaty @ 12/10/2002 04:46 AM EST

George Bush vs. Saddam Hussein - a battle of wits - this is a very funny flash cartoon. Enjoy!

Posted by Suzette @ 12/10/2002 06:59 AM EST


The original 13th amendment to our constitution disappeared from all U.S.’s books of law
after 1876. Its replacement began with the ratification of the new 13th amendment in
1865. Perhaps the ratification of the second 13th amendment is also in doubt because 8 of
the former confederate states ratified this amendment before they were readmitted to the
union as officially recognized states. Were either of the 13th amendments ever truly
ratified? We need both. This is a case where just because something either is or is not in
the law books, it does not mean that it either was or was not truly passed by the
legitimate legislative process.


If the original 13th amendment were enforced, then all U.S. citizens who are also agents
of the Roman Catholic Church, a sovereign nation, the Knights of Columbus, Knights of
Malta, Knights Templar, Priests, Bishops, Cardinals, etc., many agents of the British
Crown, all British Crown designated Sirs, Knights, etc., and attorneys and judges, which
are Esquires of the Knights Templars’ Crown Middle Temple Bar in London, being
Knights Templars’ sworn agents, would lose their citizenship of the U.S.A., and could be
expelled to the countries to whom their allegiances belong. When one swears allegiance
to any entity, as the Freemasons do, above his/her allegiance to the United States of
America, then he/she has nullified his/her citizenship, having committed treason.

If the Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution, and all of the U.S. laws
have been created by lawyers, i.e. Esquires of the Knights Templars’ Middle Temple Bar,
then these legal instruments are delusions. Are we to be governed by the Vatican’s
magicians through delusions? Do any of our taxes go to the Knights Templar, ultimately
serving the Vatican?

Bill of Rights Defense Committee. www.bordc.org


Alternate site:

Peace, courage, and joy,

Jon Carl Skoglund
“God gave a free man a clearing in the forest.”

Posted by Free Man @ 12/10/2002 11:52 AM EST

People need to stop mentioning the story about the "missing" plane that hit the Pentagon. This is a fake, CIA-created story designed to make anyone with an alternate theory of the events of 9-11 look like a lunatic. A plane DID hit the Pentagon. Okay? The question is, who brought it down and why? And did the White House know about it ahead of time and allow it to happen, or did the White House help it to happen? You people need to stop falling for these stupid CIA stories that are just designed to send you on a wild goose chase. The original article posted here by VOXFUX is a good one. It's right, true and to the point. Most everyone else's responses got off on a tangent about God, or Catholics, or stupid theories of mysticism and reincarnation. JUST LOOK AT THE FACTS. STAY FOCUSED! There ARE greedy, mean, stupid, sociopathic human beings in this world and some of them are in a position to hurt you! AND THEY MUST BE STOPPED!

Posted by Johnson @ 12/10/2002 02:36 PM EST

Fuck them Both

Posted by somone @ 12/10/2002 03:24 PM EST

Let's not forget Bush wasn't a football player, he was a cheerleader.

Posted by Vox fan @ 12/10/2002 04:04 PM EST

I like this idea. www.breakyourchains.org/jpao.htm

Posted by north wind @ 12/10/2002 05:06 PM EST

Nuke the Middle East.

Arrest All the Actors Who Signed Letter to Stop the War on December 10 2002.

Inocorparate Martial Law.

Shutdown WWW.voxnyc.com and Execute Voxfux.

Posted by TURD in Shining Armor @ 12/10/2002 05:09 PM EST

I watched a copy of a 1994 documentary which was to be aired on the Discovery Channel. It was called "Conspiracy of Silence". It concerned a pedophile ring run by a prominent Republican named Larry King. This man ran a pedophile ring which transported children, many of them young boys from Boystown, all over the country for use in sex parties which involved prominent politicians. These politicians include prominent Republicans and Democrats, and at least one of the witnesses mentioned being taken to the White House. When the story broke, the local papers worked hard to discredit the witnesses, and the FBI went into its usual coverup mode. Who were the prominent politicans that the FBI was protecting? This documentary was yanked due to extreme political pressure, and the production company was reimbursed for its costs. Ted Gunderson, an FBI agent who uncovered pedophilia at high levels of the political world, received a bootleg copy of this documentary from anonymous sources after it was squelched. One can't help but wonder whether the Bush family may be involved in this perversion. There are books on the subject by mind control survivors such as Brice Taylor (she mentions Henry Kissinger, Bush Sr. and Bob Hope) in the book "Thanks for the Memories". I wonder if any of you out there have read this book. Is it unreasonable to assume that, like the Roman Empire, and the Holy Roman Empire, that the American Empire has been consumed by greed, corruption, and finally perversion? There are multiple historical precedents for this. When perversion takes hold of an empire, the end of that empire is just around the proverbial corner.

Posted by chesnutsroasting @ 12/10/2002 06:00 PM EST

Someone is finally doing something about it! http://www.scotlandonsunday.com/index.cfm?id=1365492002

Posted by north wind @ 12/10/2002 06:23 PM EST

too many people in this house commentating on the vox....love ya vox...dont bann this numba

Posted by blaiseit @ 12/10/2002 07:14 PM EST


As you know, Boystown is in Nebraska. I also live in this putrid state. The following is a message I recently sent to some close friends of mine. I have believed that the City somehow established Lincoln, Nebraska for a particularly evil purpose. It would take someone with the resources of askmorequestions to find out what's going on between the Crown and Lincoln, but here are some topics of interest:

As a friend of mine who encouraged me at the time I sent you an email on or about December 9, 1999, concerning some of the information below, I am now asking you to forward this to as many people as possible in order to spread the word. You and I are simple working people who have had our noses rubbed in the excretions of the likes of Bob Kerrey (when Debra Winger shacked-up with him in the Governor’s Mansion and flaunted it all around Lincoln), George H.W. Bush (Read my lips, no new taxes.), Clinton, and all the other pukes we’ve supported with our taxes. Law Enforcement protects and covers up most of their perversions, so it’s up to us common people to give our lives if necessary to keep yet another generation of our children from being deceived like we were. Thank you for considering my request to distribute the following:

In March of 2002, an article I wrote (called “Submission by Webb Cook) was posted on “Unpopular Speech” at the website of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO www.jpfo.org). Below, I have listed research topics which will quickly and clearly show that there is much more than a coincidental connection between Satanism, Nazism, homosexuality, and the highest levels of the American government – including the Presidency -- in Lincoln, Nebraska. It was never my intention to uncover any of this information. Instead, it found its way to my eyes in such a way that I couldn’t ignore it or deny it. I was born and raised in Nebraska, and lived peacefully to the age of 49 before I had any idea what was going on. Keep in mind that the sources and notes below present only the tip of the iceberg. The tentacles leading outward from here could certainly be traced right to the very heart of evil if one had the necessary resources at his disposal to do so.

If not for the instruction of Ephesians 5:11, to expose or reprove evil, I certainly wouldn’t be writing this. It is a chilling thing to proclaim, and I have been confronted and investigated face-to-face by the Nebraska State Patrol, University of Nebraska Mental Health, and University of Nebraska Campus Police. My experience at their hands has been harrowing, sickening, and disturbing. I am now dismayed and disillusioned. The simple rural state I was living in has now become a part of the heart of evil in my understanding – a part of the Satanic empire I was formerly oblivious to. Although it’s better to know the truth, it takes a lot of the fun out of life. It makes me greatly look forward to the day of God’s judgment upon all of this horror.

Lauck, Gerhard: www.nazi-lauck-nsdapao.com/
~Was recently released from imprisonment in Germany for distributing Nazi literature throughout Europe.
~Headquartered in Lincoln, NE
~The University of Nebraska is located in Lincoln.

Kirby, Michael: Australia High Court Justice.
~See Courier Australian newspaper article criticizing Kirby for picking up “rent boys,” March 2002. news.com.au – High court judge ‘trawled for sex’ [13mar02]
~Lectured Harvey Perlman’s Torts class at the University of Nebraska Law College in the Spring of 2000, saying that the US would never be taken seriously as long as we cling to our barbaric Second Amendment.

Perlman, Harvey: Chancellor of the Universtity of Nebraska, and a Law Professor .
~The law professor who invites Kirby to lecture the Torts class at Law College.
~Perlman stated, “[A]nd who knows what the Second Amendment means?”

Nebraska Capitol Virtual Tour: www.state.ne.us/captour/welcome.htm
~A Baal tower full of Satanic Imagery.
~This website says the Capitol is a “temple” dedicated to the Spirit of Law.
~The Capitol building features mosaics of full-frontal male nudity (not shown on the Virtual Tour).

Innocents Society: www.unl.edu/innocent
~Chancellor’s Honor Society at the University of Nebraska.
~Head of Satan is their emblem.
~Obviously a Satanic Priesthood.
~Hold red-robed (KKK-style) rituals inside Nebraska State Capitol building.
~Established by 33rd Degree Freemason, Roscoe Pound, in 1903. Pound went on to become Dean of Harvard Law School. Pound wrote, “Masonic Jurisprudence,” which states the first law of Freemasonry is secrecy.
~A bronze bust of Pound stands in the center of the University of Nebraska Law Library.

The State vs. The People: The Rise of the American Police State, by Claire Wolfe and Aaron Zelman.
~See page 259 concerning Satanic activity in the Nebraska Capitol Building reported by Webb Cook.

George Bush: An Unauthorized Biography by Webster G. Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin.
~See Chapter 21 -- OMAHA
~Witnesses saw Vice President George Bush in the company of a teen male prostitute.
~This book details how the Bush family financed Hitler’s Third Reich.

The Franklin Cover-up: Child Abuse; Satanism; and Murder in Nebraska, by John DeCamp, former Nebraska State Senator who was Chairman of the Banking and Finance Committee investigating the failed Franklin Savings & Loan in Omaha.
~Witnesses saw Vice President George Bush at Satanic parties.
~DeCamp is currently representing Vietnamese people suing former Nebraska Governor, and Innocent, Bob Kerrey, for personally slitting the throat of an elderly Vietnamese peasant and ordering the massacre of children and pregnant women.

Posted by Webb Cook @ 12/11/2002 04:50 AM EST

Venezuella is undergoing a unusual situation right now. The cia has been trying to oust the present gov there for some time. As of the past few days the entire venezuellan population has turned out and is doing its democratic duty. There is a clue here for us americans methinks...
Gaviria Should Leave Venezuela
Venezuelan Majority Takes to the Streets, Coup Plotters Hide

By Al Giordano
A Narco News Breaking News Editorial
December 10, 2002

These are the hours of immediate history.

As in Eastern Europe 13 years ago, the final defeat of dictatorial power in Venezuela came last night at the doors of its “control rooms” – the TV stations.

On Monday night, the Venezuelan majority - unwilling to allow an upper-class economic coup d’etat that poses dishonestly as a “strike” to unseat its democratically elected government - took to the streets on a scale only seen once before in the nation’s modern history; as they had last April, when they turned back a military coup d’etat.

By early Tuesday morning the masses had every Commercial TV station in the nation surrounded. Their weapons were nonviolent and theatrical: pots, pans, fireworks and thousands of defiant but smiling faces.

Only at one TV installation in one of the outlying provinces - in Maracay State - did the public actually invade the facilities of a station that uses the public airwaves. Everywhere else, including at all the national TV stations in Caracas, immense restraint has been shown by the masses protesting outside of them.

The bluff of the former ruling class and its media – that their top-down imposed sabotage of the Venezuelan economy and oil industry of the past week is somehow a popular “strike” – has been called. The “strike leaders,” including corrupt oil union boss Carlos Ortega, have, in recent hours, disappeared from public view, abandoning their own supporters among the upper classes.

To make sure the coup plotters don’t flee the country, the neighbors of Simón Bolívar International Airport near Caracas have surrounded the airport as well.

The coup supporters, including the rogue ex-military officials from April’s attack on democracy who in recent days have called unsuccessfully for military coup, promptly abandoned Plaza Altamira last night, their physical base: the public stage they had occupied continuously for the past few weeks.

Coup Plotters' Plaza Altamira is Empty

Confronted with the rising of the more massive and true majority of Venezuelan Civil Society, the rogue officers and the elite of Caracas have retreated, returning to their homes to watch the conflict on TV as fireworks boom in the air all around them.

Meanwhile, the ostensible “mediator” of the conflict has cynically called for government repression against the peaceful pro-democracy demonstrators assembled outside the TV stations. With that action, Cesar Gaviria has lost any illusory credibility in his aspiration to “mediate” the Venezuelan conflict. He should return to Washington immediately.

Gaviria, Go Home

Gaviria, secretary-general of the Organization of American States (OAS), has just squandered whatever credibility the organization tenuously had as mediator in the Venezuelan conflict. He should leave Caracas immediately – where he has become a destabilizing force against democracy and constitutional rule - and cease posing as a “mediator” of a power-struggle in which he is, now transparently, a partisan player.

On the very same day – Monday, December 9th – that the permanent council of the Organization of American States (OAS), representing all nations in América, stated that “all the countries of the hemisphere ratify unanimously our support for Venezuelan democracy,” the OAS chairman, in Caracas, showed his contempt for that same Venezuelan democracy and the right of public assembly.

According to the French Press Agency (AFP), Gaviria “condemned” peaceful demonstrations by the Venezuelan people outside of pro-coup TV stations Globovision, Venevision, and other commercial media corporations. The “news coverage” of those media companies in recent days has been at extreme levels of simulation and dishonesty even for them: the people have had enough. Terming the popular assemblies as “acts of intimidation” against a “free press,” Gaviria called upon the Chávez government to use repression against the demonstrators.

“The secretary general of the OAS is deeply worried about the acts of intimidation against the installations of some of the principal media of the country such as Radio Caracas Television, the De Armas Group, Venevision and Globovision,” Gaviria stated through an OAS press release from the posh Melia Hotel in Downtown Caracas, according to AFP.

Gaviria expressed his “condemnation of such acts that put freedom of speech at serious risk,” reported AFP, and made “an urgent call upon the authorities to take immediate action to cease such threats. There can be no doubt that press freedom and free speech are two totally consistent elements with the existence of democratic principles.”

But in calling for government action against the free speech rights of the people to peaceably assemble, Gaviria revealed the false discourse of Power regarding “press freedom.” For Gaviria (and some corporate “press freedom” organizations), the libertinism of a paid press takes priority over the liberty of free speech by all the people. Nothing is more frightening to them – nor more important for Authentic Democracy – than a scenario in which the masses confront this era’s hijacking of the public airwaves by an elite minority.

For the past week, coup supporters demonstrated (as is their right, too) outside of Venezuela's public TV station, without a single word of protest from Gaviria or any "press freedom" organization, and without any repression from the Chávez government. Gaviria certainly did not term those demonstrations as "threats" or call on the State to "cease" them, as he did yesterday against the more popular demonstrations against media simulation.

The Venezuelan people have every right and duty to demonstrate outside of the commercial TV stations. Those media companies backed the failed April 2002 coup d’etat in that country with a big lie that “Chávez Resigned” when twice-elected President Hugo Chávez had not. For the past week, those commercial TV stations have nakedly attempted to provoke another coup by inventing another big lie – parroted by most of the U.S. and English-language press corps – that a management imposed work lockout in some sectors is somehow a “general strike.” Like “Chávez Resigned,” the use of the term “strike” is this week’s big lie; repeated ad nauseam in the hope that it will be believed by the gullible among us.

The problem for the Big Liars is that the Venezuelan majority didn’t buy it. The people – having watched foreign companies like McDonald’s, Wendy’s and British Petroleum lock their workers out for the imposed "strike" while the small neighborhood shopkeepers and businesses remained open – have, in this month of December of 2002, showed the world that “the big lie theory” for controlling public opinion no longer works.

Who the Hell is Cesar Gaviria?

Gaviria, the former Colombian president (1990-1994), was the chief beneficiary of the assassination of popular Colombian presidential candidate Luis Carlos Galan, whose elimination cleared the way for the Gaviria presidency. Gaviria was the president who allowed paramilitary death squads to gain a foothold in Colombia. It was Gaviria who sold his nation’s sovereignty to foreign powers and betrayed his own attorney general Gustavo de Greiff, after de Greiff had defied Washington by calling for drug legalization. And it was Gaviria who Washington later installed as secretary-general of the OAS in order to pave the way for Plan Colombia and military intervention in that country.

In recent days, Gaviria has ostensibly been in Venezuela as a “mediator” of the conflict between the oil-soaked oligarchy on one side and the supporters of the Constitutional democracy and the Chávez government on the other.

Washington’s discourse this week has been to feign support for democracy in Venezuela (while Spaniard intelligence operatives from Europe handled the hands-on dirty work of this most recent coup attempt) by making proclamations of support for Gaviria as mediator.

Now that Gaviria has called for State repression against the peaceful assemblies spreading like wildfire tonight throughout Venezuela, the true goals of this US-backed act of “Mediation Theater” are obvious to all reasonable observers. This was an attempted coup in strike's clothing.

Foreign powers and billionaire economic interests tried to fix the game by installing their own referee, Cesar Gaviria, in Caracas. But he’s not an umpire or referee. He’s a player for the team that has now lost the contest, an advocate for destabilization and repression, and it is time for Gaviria to get the hell out of the stadium.

The only possible “mediator” of this dispute cannot be the commercial media nor foreign interests: It is, and will be, the Venezuelan people who now make the calls.


Posted by loner @ 12/11/2002 06:17 AM EST

Alright, so Iraq has these weapons of mass destruction and they are 'evil doers'. Don't we? Doesn't everyone else? I think if we should be concerned with weapons of mass destruction how about we take a look at North Korea. Not only have they admited to a secret nuclear enriching program but they also produce scuds and send them to other nations!!
You know what though, how about we pressure Iraq and deal with Korea through diplomacy.
Where do you sell that bullshit?
Not to me...........

Posted by Anti-War @ 12/11/2002 06:35 AM EST

No man or woman's death will change our world. Nor will the fall of another empire, the collapse of our corrupt economic system, or the implosion of the Church.

The prophesied "End of the World," is the end of a world of ideas. The core beliefs from which we construct our experience of this world are what is "fallen," not us.

Our ideas about ourselves, the Earth, and God, all are based upon ideas which do not reflect divine truth. They have no future but to collapse. Yet from death, new life may grow. As it always has been, death, rebirth, and renewal.

Open your hearts to recieve the inspiration to recreate ourselves and our world. As we redefine who we are, we have the opportunity to recreate our societal structures, with a foundation of beliefs that resonate with life.

Our slavery or liberation lies within each of us, as we believe so will we create. All our creations will reflect the beliefs we hold a true. Choose Love, in all ways, that we may finally create our heaven on this glorious Earth.

In La'kesh

Posted by selfexistingmoon @ 12/11/2002 01:26 PM EST

Foundations are in place for martial law in the US-


Posted by Sabu @ 12/11/2002 03:36 PM EST

ask more questions should answer a few , like who he is quoting from occasionally. for instance his piece on the 'crown' above mentions the Queen Mother as being a member of this bankster crown but as we all know the Queen Mother is dead and has been for some time.

Posted by charlie @ 12/11/2002 09:55 PM EST

Hi vox--Was feeling discouraged today after meeting of local "activist" group last night in which we discussed trash in town's streets, starting a hiking group, and forming committees--and subject quickly changed w/nervous laughter when i brought up homeland "security" bill--following a candlelight peace vigil in which no one carried signs because town clerk "made a face" when signs mentioned to her (after futile attempt to point out that w/o signs it would look like a group of mute carolers i declined to participate)--
but got my vox fix and believe i can go on--(and travel a bit further afield to find a more compatible "Think globally, act locally" community).
Thanks to loner for venezuela article--read (usual mind-fogging) mass media account and have been trying to find truth--confess that up till last night have been harboring foolish hopes that americans would unite in similar resistance--but it is inspiring nonetheless--and may the people of Venezuela stay united and undefeated!
To Webb Cook--i commend you for your courage--and agree that knowing the truth "takes a lot of the fun out of life"--especially the truth about what is being done to the children. Over 1000 disappeared from system in jeb's state, including a 3-yr-old girl listed as "runaway." Am not a scripture quoter--but in this case: "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones...,it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
To selfexistingmoon: Would dearly love to be able to believe that we create our own realities and can change the world through Love, or that i will be raptured up out of this, or hop over the 4th dimension into a joyful loving 5th as the vibrations of our planet speed up--but believe that Truth works for everyone or it is not a truth--what of those MANY children "sacrificed" while in deliberately induced terror--very little children whose "thought forms" surely did not include these abominations and cruelties. Agree that hatred corrodes the soul, but righteous anger and appropriate action do not.
Thanks, vox.
Peace and Freedom, kathleen

Posted by kathleen beatty @ 12/11/2002 10:56 PM EST

Behold Kathleen, the only thing greater than yourself is the cosmos.

Posted by tri888 @ 12/12/2002 11:29 AM EST

If Bush is the antichrist what does that make the people who voted for him?

Posted by charlie @ 12/12/2002 06:00 PM EST

charlie: Suckers.

But this lies under the supposition that [either] Bush was voted in at all in the first place.

Posted by Masonic Initiate @ 12/13/2002 06:05 AM EST

The sun had shifted round, and the myriad windows of the Ministry of Truth, with the light no longer shining on them, looked grim as the loopholes of a fortress. His heart quailed before the enormous pyramidal shape. It was too strong, it could not be stormed. A thousand rocket bombs would not batter it down. He wondered again for whom he was writing the diary. For the future, for the past -- for an age that might be imaginary. And in front of him there lay not death but annihilation. The diary would be reduced to ashes and himself to vapour. Only the Thought Police would read what he had written, before they wiped it out of existence and out of memory. How could you make appeal to the future when not a trace of you, not even an anonymous word scribbled on a piece of paper, could physically survive?

Free Your mind and your government will follow!!

Posted by Gary Floyd @ 12/13/2002 07:14 AM EST

George W Bush is serial killer.

Intersting reading.
December 5, 2002—If any of us are to have a future worth having, the world's leaders, the members of Congress, the US corporate media and people of all political persuasions who value freedom and democracy had better start seeing George W. Bush for what he is: a sociopath and a passive serial killer.

go website for the rest of reading..

Posted by Qwerty @ 12/13/2002 12:44 PM EST

Kissinger, the bastard, just QUIT! He's getting old and doesn't want to go down in history as being a total fuck up! But I'm afraid, for him, it's already too late!

Posted by Kay Oss @ 12/13/2002 10:07 PM EST

Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"
What "evidence" do you conspiracy guys have?
The poor President is just trying to do his job, part of which involves protecting even those that would speak lies about him.

Posted by Pete @ 12/14/2002 12:21 AM EST

For Pete's sake.
Either you're a goading devils advocate begging the evidence........ or just plain misinformed. I suspect the former or else what would you be doin' following this
forum? If you truly want evidence......Just keep reading.

Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by Siren Says @ 12/14/2002 03:11 AM EST

Bush isn't a moron, he's a cunning sociopath

By Bev Conover
Online Journal Editor & Publisher

December 5, 2002—If any of us are to have a future worth having, the world's leaders, the members of Congress, the US corporate media and people of all political persuasions who value freedom and democracy had better start seeing George W. Bush for what he is: a sociopath and a passive serial killer.

Psychiatrists tell us that all serial killers lack the emotions that make us human; that they have to learn to emulate those emotions in order to get by in society. Hence, a charming, well educated fellow like Ted Bundy who is known to have murdered 15 women and may have killed 36 before he was caught.

While Bush is no Bundy, when it comes Bundy's education and acquired charm, and to our knowledge has never personally murdered anyone, it has been evident to us that there is something missing in George W. in terms of his lack of compassion and empathy. As governor of Texas, he set a record in signing death warrants—154 in five years. He even made fun of the way convicted killer Karla Faye Tucker begged for her life.

If we believe the psychiatrists, a sign of a future serial killer is a child who delights in torturing and killing animals. George W., as a child, did exactly that. In a May 21, 2000, New York Times' puff piece about the values Bush gained growing up in Midland, Texas, Nicholas D. Kristof quoted Bush's childhood friend Terry Throckmorton: "'We were terrible to animals,' recalled Mr. Throckmorton, laughing. A dip behind the Bush home turned into a small lake after a good rain, and thousands of frogs would come out. 'Everybody would get BB guns and shoot them,' Mr. Throckmorton said. 'Or we'd put firecrackers in the frogs and throw them and blow them up.'"

On Sept. 12, 2000, Baltimore Sun reporter Miriam Miedzian wrote, "So when he was a kid, George W. enjoyed putting firecrackers into frogs, throwing them in the air, and then watching them blow up. Should this be cause for alarm? How relevant is a man's childhood behavior to what he is like as an adult? And in this case, to what he would be like as president of the United States."

We're finding out, aren't we? While we, in two articles before the 2000 election—Sept. 21 and Oct. 23—noted Bush's penchant for blowing up frogs, the corporate media blew it off, just as it had no interest in what he was trying to hide by obtaining a new Texas driver license and his 1976 drunk driving conviction, or the fact he was AWOL from the Texas Air National Guard. Instead, they bought into his nonsensical claim of being a "compassionate conservative" and "a uniter not a divider" who was going to "restore honor and dignity to the White House."

All through the 2000 campaign and up to Sept. 11, 2001, the corporate media depicted Bush as an affable, tongue-tied bumbler—the kind of guy Joe Six-pack would like to have a beer with—turning a blind eye to his dark underside. It mattered not that he stocked his illicit administration with the worst of the worst: John Ashcroft, Donald Rumsfeld, Gale Norton, Paul O'Neill, Harvey Pitt, Thomas White, John Negroponte, Otto Reich and convicted Iran-contra felon Elliot Abrams who received a 1992 Christmas Eve pardon from George W.'s father.

Then, despite his peculiar behavior on Sept. 11, the corporate media and his handlers transformed him into a leader extraordinaire in the mold of Franklin D. Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln and Winston Churchill rolled into one.

And as Bush had Afghanistan bombed back beyond the Stone Age to rid the world of Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, then switched to claiming it was the Taliban that had to go, then declared there was an "axis of evil" and it was really Saddam Hussein who was the "mother of all evil" and that war with Iraq was in the offing to get rid of Saddam, the corporate media cheered him on and to this day continues to beat the war drum. They have yet to consider that the passive serial killer needs to feed his lust for blood by sending others to put their lives on the line and do the killing for him.

In his Sept. 12 article, White House insiders say Bush is "out of control," Mike Hersh wrote, "Some among Bush's trusted White House staff fear what they are seeing and where Bush is taking us. His state of mind hauntingly reminds them of Richard Nixon's Final Days. They fear Bush is becoming Nixonesque . . . or worse. Although Bush lacks Nixon's paranoia, he may entertain even more dangerous notions."

But their desperate late night phone calls to trusted reporters has not seen the light of day in the corporate media. Yet, some of us outside the Beltway have long had an inkling of what we are dealing with.

More proof lies in Alexandra Pelosi's documentary, Journeys with George. Pelosi, the daughter of incoming House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, was a producer for NBC when she wangled the assignment to spend 18 months as part of Bush's campaign press corps.

From the surface, Pelosi's "home movie," as she calls it, seems to be nothing more than a love fest as George W. works to charm the pants off her and the rest of the press corps. The striking thing about this George, even though Karen Hughes is often seen hovering at his elbow, is that he isn't tongue-tied when he is pumping up his ego, dishing out digs and being sarcastic and crude.

Mark Crispin Miller, author of The Bush Dyslexicon and professor of media studies at New York University, who also sees the darker Bush, said in a Nov. 28 interview with the Toronto Star, ""Bush is not an imbecile. He's not a puppet. I think that Bush is a sociopathic personality. I think he's incapable of empathy. He has an inordinate sense of his own entitlement, and he's a very skilled manipulator. And in all the snickering about his alleged idiocy, this is what a lot of people miss."

Miller said he did intend The Bush Dyslexicon to be a funny book, but that was before he read all the transcripts, which revealed, according to reporter Murray Whyte, "a disquieting truth about what lurks behind the cock-eyed leer of the leader of the free world. He's not a moron at all on that point, Miller and Prime Minister Jean Chretien agree."

"He has no trouble speaking off the cuff when he's speaking punitively, when he's talking about violence, when he's talking about revenge," Miller told Whyte. "When he struts and thumps his chest, his syntax and grammar are fine. It's only when he leaps into the wild blue yonder of compassion, or idealism, or altruism, that he makes these hilarious mistakes."

In a speech last Sept. in Nashville, trying to strengthen his case against Saddam, Bush's script called for him to say, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." But the words that came out of his mouth were, ""Fool me once, shame . . . shame on . . . you," followed by a long pause, then, "Fool me—can't get fooled again!"

Said Miller, "What's revealing about this is that Bush could not say, 'Shame on me' to save his life. That's a completely alien idea to him. This is a guy who is absolutely proud of his own inflexibility and rectitude."

Another example, Miller said, occurred early in Bush's White House tenure when he said, "I know how hard it is to put food on your family."

According to Miller, "That wasn't because he's so stupid that he doesn't know how to say, 'Put food on your family's table'—it's because he doesn't care about people who can't put food on the table."

Miller told Whyte, ""When he tries to talk about what this country stands for, or about democracy, he can't do it."

"This, then, is why he's so closely watched by his handlers, Miller says not because he'll say something stupid, but because he'll overindulge in the language of violence and punishment at which he excels," Whyte wrote.

"He's a very angry guy, a hostile guy. He's much like Nixon. So they're very, very careful to choreograph every move he makes. They don't want him anywhere near protestors, because he would lose his temper," Miller said.

"I call him the feel bad president, because he's all about punishment and death," Miller told Whyte. "It would be a grave mistake to just play him for laughs."

A grave mistake, indeed.

If all that has happened since Bush was first mentioned as a possible GOP presidential candidate hasn't set off alarms, his naming of war criminal, mass murderer and international fugitive Henry Kissinger last week to head up the 9/11 investigation should have. And this week another alarm should have gone off when Bush promoted Elliot Abrams to lead the National Security Council's office for Near East and North African affairs, which oversees Arab-Israeli relations.

Bush must be stopped now, before he sets the world aflame. And set it aflame is what he intends to do, even if Iraq has no "weapons of mass destruction" or Saddam stands on his head, naked, on the White House lawn.

Posted by Bush is a cunning sociopath @ 12/14/2002 10:06 AM EST

It's all OK with Bushy Baby and his big pack of mental case, criminally minded torturers, rapists, murderers, and all out sick, thieving curses upon all of life......Karma is a constant..... In their next lives they'll be born into the bodies of the pathetically poor, handicapped and starving Third-World slaves of American and European Capitalist Industries and Military Industrial Complex Sick Ones.

Posted by Carmatoall @ 12/14/2002 02:37 PM EST

I noticed that my favorite title of my favorite article in recent history "The Bushes Must be Killed..." has been changed. Any reason other than the obvious for this???

Osama bin Laden (doing fine and still on the U.S. payroll...)

Posted by john poindexter @ 12/14/2002 10:35 PM EST

You fucking liberals are really sickening and pathetic. What really needs to be done is to have you scumbag liberals thrown into a huge hole and have Saddam Hussein take a wicked shit on you.
Then the rest of America should take out some gasoline and throw it on you and then light your faggots up. I would like to see some flaming faggots, like the ones who post on this site for sick fucks.
No wonder you folks all loved Clinton. You were busy sucking his dick too!
Die Assholes!

I'm gonna let this jerk's post stand for all to see, so that you see the profound depth of the ignorance that we are dealing with. I really don't have to see what this pig looks like, you can almost see it in his posts. He reeks.

Posted by Killing Fucking Liberals @ 12/14/2002 10:38 PM EST

Vox, great site .
I have just read David Icke's latest book "Alice In Wonderland and the World trade Center Disaster ,Why the official story of 9/11 is a monumental lie .500 pages of sourced information that is truly a peice of work that will be fundamental in bringing Bush & co to justice. The sooner the better in my opinion .http://www.bridgeoflove.com/bookstore/bol/alice.html

Posted by Steve G @ 12/15/2002 07:34 AM EST

Dear Killing F*king Liberals
Bush truly is crap, even Liberterians and authentic Conservatives think so, he's destroying our constitution and Bill of Rights. My advice to other Liberals, one good asualt rifle, and one good sniper rifle, why ??
defense against mental cases like you. Take your death threats and go play with Saddams Sh*t

Posted by Liberal Commando @ 12/15/2002 06:45 PM EST

I just want to say thanks to all the people who have helped to get the truth out, and especially to those who did so when it was not nearly so easy, when a careless statement could mark one as a dangerous influence. I try every day to wake more people up, and I do it not because I enjoy proselytizing, but because I have looked into the evidence surrounding 9-11 and believe that something is terribly wrong. Keep up the good work.

Posted by thx @ 12/15/2002 07:25 PM EST

Bush after the twin tower murders sad something along the line of 'you can break our buildings but you can't break our will, something like that anyway. Same words used by Joseph Goebells in Berlin 1945...same words. He learns well and with the 'home security dept.' Try a search of RSHA, just use those letters and you'll see another home security department. One led by Heydrich.
It frightens me.

Great site by the way!

Posted by Just amazed @ 12/16/2002 05:32 PM EST

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"I love talking about the Warren Commission, I love talking about the Kennedy assasination as well. The reason I do is because I'm fascinated by it. I'm fascinated that our government could lie to us so blatantly, so obviously for so long, and we do absolutely nothing about it. I think that's interesting in what is ostensibly a democracy. Sarcasm - come on in. People say, "Bill, quit talking about Kennedy man. It was a long time ago, just let it go, alright? It's a long time ago, just forget it." I'm like, alright, then don't bring up Jesus to me. As long as we're talking shelf life here, you know."

-- Bill Hicks

Rushkoff's Blog

CBS Sunday Morning
My first "CBS Sunday Morning" commentary airs Sunday, December 15, at 9am in most US time zones. I wrote and narrated, but I haven't seen the edited piece.

Trent Lott
Let him keep his job, even though his longstanding racist agenda is coming to light. He represents a significant constituency of the Republican party. Yes, Bush publically scolded Lott for what he said (that Strom Thurmond, a segregationist, should have been President).

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Okay, so it's getting pretty obvious that Pres. Cheney wants to recreate the Ford administration, and to bring back an era when the press and the public are regarded as the chief enemies of the White House. (Poindexter's new appointment, Kissinger's role as an 'investigator', increasing secrecy, and court rulings that Cheney need not reveal the process through which the energy industry developed our energy policy, are all part of this trend.

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Government: Political Essayist Voxfux - A Massive Manhunt
Posted by: valis on Dec 17, 2002 - 03:47 AM

At 10AM on Friday the 13th, A combined task force from the Secret Service, FBI, CIA, and Major Crimes Unit raided a Long Island home believed to be that of the political essayist who writes under the pen name Voxfux.

There were simultaneous raids at several locations throughout New York City and Brooklyn.

Voxfux is represented by Norman Seigal (From NYCLU). The civil rights lawyer Ron Cuby is also involved in the discussions.

Later in the day Vox was interviewed at an undisclosed location with Amy Goodman from the radio program Democracy Now.

There has been no formal charges presented so far. Neighbors were issued orders to contact the Authorities upon seeing or hearing from the man believed to be behind the caustic pen.

A neighbor, who wished to remain anonymous for fear of violating any orders of the combined law enforcement effort, spoke praises of her neighbor, "There's no way he's a terrorist, he's a sweetheart, I don't believe it for one minute. I've known him for seventeen years. He's an artist and a writer. This is rediculous."

The case has the potential to be a lightening rod for civil libertarians, coming just days after the passage of the controversial Homeland Security Act. The articles Believed to be penned by the mystery writer can be found at www.voxnyc.com

from IndyMedia thread:

Voxfux has been making appearances throughout the day in the East Village talking a lot to a lot of people. He's pissed. But he is definately NOT in their custody.

I saw one of his assistants who confirmed the Amy Goodman interview. She told me that Voxfux has requested that the interview NOT be aired at this time.

He told me to tell everyone to not have fear. He feels like a lion and never had more resolve in his life.

Posted by They are after VoxFux @ 12/17/2002 12:39 PM EST

Ah, the eloquence of those dumb as posts... awe inspiring.

Come back soon, Vox. These degenerate knuckle draggers have soiled your space.

Posted by smirkymon @ 12/19/2002 03:14 AM EST

Funny that the people who most disagree with this website do so in a most childish manner! Reacting and wishing violence and death? Perhaps thats how we the people have been raised to handle our indifferences? Spooky like.

Posted by Xaos @ 12/19/2002 12:19 PM EST

A couple posts up fromthis there was a guy ranting about liberals, and lighting them on fire, and shiting on them?

From my past few weeks poking around on these sites i was unaware that any one who posts on these boards hade any politcal affiliations at all, are you all liberalS? Sound to me like you guys are way beond that silliness

Posted by monkey @ 12/20/2002 12:02 AM EST

The labels of liberal and conservative mean nothing since those politicians who have called themselves and others by such names have done the exact opposite of that which they said. Politicians have also used these labels against their opponents in order to avoid and distroy real, honest, thought, discussion, and debate. We have been betrayed by them most polititions, except by a few like Ron Paul.

Further, the terms liberal and conservative are useless without valid, consistant thought, expression, and action.

I urge you to be specific on the issues as is vox and are the more serious posters here, of which there are many.

Peace, courage, joy

Jon Carl Skoglund

Posted by Free Man @ 12/20/2002 05:21 PM EST

Ah, the shelf life, and what else
Well, I'll tell you what:
My fiance, matters. He gave his life to the first Gulf War and he is paying IN SPADES,for his Americanism. He suffers from GWS, and from various other illnesses--
"Or from "
Yet back then, he was told by H.W. Bush.."_,"
and now he's to be told by G.W. Bush_"___ " no need for me to repeat--

And,my fiance says,as I say, "get thee
gone, Judas!!"

Posted by dShays(as in DShays Rebellion) @ 12/20/2002 07:37 PM EST

It would be sweet enough if he would just follow T. Lott's move
and resign, but actualy, he would have to get his entire "administration" to resign
along with him to make any significant difference and then we would have to have a "special election",
(emergency edition,)

and then "hopefully"
we would have somebody in the
"White house" with a three digit I.Q. , (or at least a good speech writer and a "gork" who can read a teleprompter without stumbling as our figurehead,)

I've had it up to HERE!

Posted by ANOTHER LISTENING @ 12/21/2002 07:21 AM EST

I am so grateful to have found people out there like me, who are amazed that this entire family of river pirates ever got into positions of power. I felt like I was the only one who knew that Georgie even HAD a brother named Neil, much less how big a crook he is. I have a question for you folks: In the mid '80s, I read an on-line article by someone at the National Lampoon about Daddy Bush getting drunk and shooting at seagulls from his estate in Maine. The article said he accidentally shot and killed a fisherman. Seems later that week, (before the family actually knew who & how he'd been shot), some spook types showed up in this little town asking questions about the shooting and interviewing all the family members they could locate. The article said that subsequently, during a wake for the dead man, the home it was being held in mysteriously blew up, obliterating the entire family, and all their friends.

Did anyone else see this, and does anyone know of it's validity? I'm aware of the source's history of clever hoaxes, but nothing I've seen or heard of the Bush Way makes me sure it was a hoax.

Posted by conscious objector @ 12/25/2002 07:20 PM EST

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