The number one thing that the pigs of the New World Order understand is that only through the isolation, segmentation and division of human beings, all human beings, can they keep their grip on power - their fingers around our necks.

And so we must unite.

Many have contacted me with offers of support and technical assistance. It is very encouraging. I have been in contact with the Electronic Frontier Foundation and will propose to set up a defense fund administered by them.

Our site has been growing rapidly and has a large core group of regular visitors. This must be expanded.

I believe the best way is to get the articles here into as many forums as possible - conservative and liberal, Christian and Muslim, peaceniks and militia, everyone must be exposed to the truth. So propagate.

Furthermore we NEED the help of the hackers. For security and sheer technical knowledge of networked systems there is no other group who has as much knowledge as hackers.

We need liaisons to independently communicate and propagate the ideas from this site to the following groups.
ACLU
NYCLU
EFF
all student groups
all youth groups
All Indymedia sites
the Cypherpunks
all print media
massive letters to the editor campaign
any and all hacker organizations
any and all liberal forums
any and all conservative forums
any and all religious forums
any and all forums period!

But you must be prepared. The pigs are on the attack. They have thousands of low level intelligence agency staffers who scan the Internet with one purpose, to find truths and disrupt and discredit them. So you must be your own propaganda minister. When you publish or post a truth you must expect and pre-empt the inevitable barrage of lies by these paid staffers. Don’t let happen what happened to Indymedia happen to your effort. Indymedia was simply the most exciting and best news source ever. But that was before they were completely infiltrated and neutered by a massive and coordinated effort by US intelligence, to debase and discredit every sensible and intelligent news article on those forums. US intelligence has assigned assets to mount a 24 hour surveillance, disruption and discrediting campaign against all open democratic and liberal forums. Therefore we must do the same. If we do not disrupt them they will win and we will lose. Period.

It’s dirty folks, revolutions and crusades always are. We must learn to act independently and autonomously. We must propagate the truth or humankind will be obliterated. We must cast doubt and discredit EVERY one of their forums the same way they do to our forums. We must infiltrate and pose as hyperconservative jerks and create dissent among their community of hyperconservative jerks just the same way as they do when they infiltrate liberal and decent forums and work to disrupt and discredit us. Join their forums, gain their confidence by appearing to be a like-minded conservative jerk like them, and then when you’ve gained their confidence and they believe that you are one of them, start attacking them.

Here’s an exaggerated example, “I’ve been a loyal conservative for years and I voted for Reagan and Bush Sr. but I am telling you that his kid is the biggest idiot I have ever seen. Just look at this article over at this site www.voxnyc.com” You get the picture. Be creative, be cunning, use every strain of intelligence you have to help fight this historic fight for the safety and well-being of the human race. Get them to fight among themselves. Cause dissent among their ranks. This right now may be the most expedient and important thing we can do to. It’s time to take off the gloves and go bare knuckled with these scumbags. It is a scientific FACT that the more conservative a person is, the less intelligent they are - That is a fact. And so it should be like taking candy from a retarded child.

Keep a record and share some of your victories. I will keep a thread specifically for people to post their victories with these pigs so that we may all share and learn specific techniques to disrupt and discredit their fragile lies. Once people get a taste for the truth they never go back. Let’s give them a taste.

Solidarity
voxfux

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Right on my Brother! Give me liberty or give me death.
Voxfux = victory

Posted by Nike @ 12/26/2002 01:52 AM EST

Not a bad idea at all. I do have a minor victory i'd like to add aswell. Perhaps its not my victory but...

(please allow me to apologize for mistakes regarding the events for 2 reasons. First, I lack faith in and am at an overabundance of disdain for public school systems. Second, my story of the events comes from my Grandfather who:

was 13 years old when Pearl Harbor was attacked. His father was stationed there and so the rest the family lived nearby. (I forgot the name of the area and island he lived at.) According to him, it was the first area to get attacked as it was also on the way to the main Harbor. He even remembers the second bomb that was dropped on a nearby hangar (that may have been on the opposite shore of where he lived). He remembers watching the Japanese planes fly over bombing the two outside hangars, ignoring the center of the three which was empty. He also remembers a Japanese bean sprout farm on the island. After he visited PH a few years ago, he was not suprised to notice the farm directly across from the Hangars had a clear enough view to determine if one would have been empty or not. Also he can remember the planes flying so low he was able to see the pilots.

There is much more that could be added. Currently am in the process of helping him get his story on paper and http.

Anyhow.. On the day of the attacks, all of the machineguns for the planes had been taken down for cleaning. This was inspite the fact that his family was made aware that an attack may be coming. His parents had prepared him and his sisters (one older one younger) for the incoming attack.

He claims they had warnings atleast a week before the event took place. (i've gone to get a general drift of the attack as I had never thought there had been a warning. (problem is, tv, movies, and people on the street all think, act, and play along as if it were a suprise attack.) so far all I can find are debates and ominous articles claiming such but not many that are as certain as my grandfather is. There was atleast enough time for his family to have a plan for when the event took place.

From what he's told me i've got a good idea that PH was a military area that was very aware of what was to come yet no steps were taken to prevent or defend. On top of that, during the week it was made aware, any possible defense against the attacks were disabled.

Alas, there is much that has cropped up in recent years shedding much light on Pearl Harbor and prior warnings. Perhaps in 40 years the dark side of 911 will be revealed but will it be too late?

...now for the victory perhaps.

My Grandfather fears for the future he is not going to live to witness. He no longer owns stock and is being very carefull with his finances now. Not long from now he is going to be getting his prescriptions filled in Canada. I know he does not grasp the big picture and I doubt many if any will. In that regards, he does pay much attention to politics and history. He does not recieve a direct dissected conclusion like the ones Vox delivers. (btw vox, much props) But what I find most uncanney is that he has drawn very like conclusions. That I think is a victory as perhaps in time people will wake up. Unfortunatly, when were pissing through a hole drilled in our colon there isn't going to be much we can do about it.

A warning from a wise man:

-In 30 years you will be flipping burgers for Japanese tourist.-

Posted by Xaos @ 12/26/2002 03:50 AM EST

It's funny you should mention this now. I had a conversation with my brother in law yesterday. He's basically a decent guy, but, over the years has been well in undated to the lies spoonfed by the mainstream media. Still, from time to time things have come up that have gotten him looking, at least to some degree. He still refuses to accept the truth, but some interesting things came out.

The people who own the media are well aware of the doubts being cast upon what they say, to the point where they're airing specials and (supposed) documentaries which attempt to answer the more presssing questions – in other words to gloss the truth over and hope that the questions stop. As I don't watch TV I hadn't been aware of the extent they've been going to to quiet what has to be a most unwelcome (for them) wave of questions. Like most of their "answers" however, these presentations have their fill of holes and gaps, some of which were pointed out (if inadvertently) by my brother in law. And he's spotted some of these gaps for himself. He wasn't about to acknowledge it but it was obvious by the times little light bulbs went off in his eyes that some of the points and questions put his way were hitting home in ways which made too much sense. In this particular instance the biggest obstacles are to get the man to look past the mainstream media and to accept just how cheaply our leaders regard the lives of both himself and the people around him: that will be the hardest part as he's unwilling to believe that they could have so little regard for life.

But, he's looking. The sheer amount of information (however inaccurate and diluted) he let out proves that. He's just looking at the wrong source, but, having known the man for twenty years it's safe to say that'll change. His situation is not much different than with most people. They are looking but right now are looking to mediums they think they know and can trust. That'll change because there are too many conradictions in the official stories, and, at different times people spot them and start asking why. One thing my brother in law refused to believe (at first) was that Pearl Harbour was set up to be attacked, until he heard the strategic data and reasoning listed in the document. Then, despite the need to believe that no American President would ever do that to the people of his Nation one could see his mind doing the proverbial "wait a minute" whether he liked it or not. That happened several times over the course of the evening, as it happens whenever you talk to people who don't want to believe what's going on.

As frustrating as it is to work at getting through thick and hard heads it's worth pushing the truth because people do listen.

One other thing to note is the degree to which the mainstream is trying to discredit the information posted on the internet. They wouldn't be doing that unless they were afraid of it.

Brian

Posted by Brian Hay @ 12/26/2002 04:31 AM EST

I live in NYC, and every day I take the L train as part of my trip to work. At Union Square, almost every day, is a fresh anti-war sticker. I see them and I wonder how effective they are. Nobody else seems to be looking at them, and they're usually gone within a day or two, only to be replaced with a totally different one. I've been tempted to start replacing those small stickers placed by someone else with full on 8.5 by 11 stickers just to get people's attention.

I think you're right, Vox. The groups do need liasons between them. What they also need to do, in my opinion, is set aside whatever minor differences in ideology they have and commit to their common goals. I've seen a lot of sites for groups that say thay "maintain total autonomy" from other groups. It's one thing to work as a series of independent cells, it's another to let your different views keep you from working together. There's so much we can do if we all worked towards the same goal together.

I think there's a lot that needs to be done, and it looks to me that you have very similar ideas to the ones that pop into my head all day.

Unfortunately, I'd like to write a lot more, but I have to go to work. I'll post later.

Keep up the good fight,
Rey.

Posted by Rey @ 12/26/2002 07:10 AM EST

I feel I have to reiterate this fact:

We Live in a Digital Age. We have Computers with printers and CD burners.

Each one of us has the capacity to print pages of FACTUAL TRUTH to counter the propaganda. This could be done in a coordinated manner. If each one of us were to distribute (or leave around) a daily target of hard-hitting fact sheets (with URLs to relevant websites) then we would ensure that there is no stone unturned in reaching out with the truth.

This should be co-ordinated by the availability of collections of downloadable word documents or HTML pages formatted for printing on a single sheet. These would provide quality layouts and eye-catching formatting, idealy cutting edge layout designs (I'm sure there are designers out there - Even good copy writers).

In short, we live in a time where WE THE PEOPLE have the tools to product very high quality, serious, 'mini' publications that rival the quality of slick propaganda media that we are bombarded with every day. It takes little effort.

TOGETHER, as an active, organic, MASS 'Printing Press' WE have the capacity to provide THOUGHT-PROVOKING facts in a PROFESSIONAL manner AS WELL AS point others to the Truth online, with each Web Address included on the information sheet.

We Should each be dropping such home-printed leaflets on a daily basis, on store shelves, cafe tables, ATMs, Under Car Wiper Arms, Through the cracks of open windows on parked cars, On the seats of busses, in changing rooms of clothes stores, in Supermarket Carts.....Leave an info sheet anywhere you go. Each Day.

Buy Yourself a Sheet Cutter and Print Out 'Micro Sheets' of condensed information that will fit in your back pockets. If you print on two sides of a page, you can probably fit 10 or even 20 double sided 'micro-sheets' with an Eye Catching heading and thought provoking facts, as well as a whole bunch of URLS.

INFORM THE MASSES OF:

-How the Media uses Half-Truths to perpetrate believable Lies.
-How a Free Press is not really 'Free'.
-Various Unreported FACTS of 9-11
-Questionable (in)Actions by the administration or military (stand-downs) on 9-11
-Who controls the government.
-The Federal Reserve IS NOT A GOVERNMENT ENTITY but a private corporation belonging to international interests with influential control over the US government.
- The MASS FRAUD of the government 'Budget' SCAM that NO ONE TALKS ABOUT known as Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports (CAFR). Why do NO POLITICIANS EVEN DARE UTTER A WORD ABOUT THIS MASSIVE FRAUD ON THE TAXPAYING PUBLIC. By allowing such FINANCIAL RAPE, both major parties of politics are not serious about serving the interests of the people.
- and loads more THOUGHT PROVOKING FACTS that will make ANY SANE PERSON QUESTION the DECEPTION.

We MUST BE ACTIVE B O T H ONLINE and OFF!

Posted by Stinky_Old_Goat @ 12/26/2002 07:21 AM EST

HEADS UP ON Government Fraud:

CAFR
Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports

Information on MASSIVE 'BUDGET' FINANCIAL FRAUD on the poeple over the last 10 years or more can be found at:

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/cafr1/Article1.html

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/cafr1/CAFR.html

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/cafr1/Trans.html

www.cafrman.com

http://www.infowars.com/videos.html

Posted by Stinky_Old_Goat @ 12/26/2002 07:27 AM EST

first of all, know THEIR techniques. this is how they do it (use the same on them):

17 techniques of truth suppression
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thought you guys might recognize some of these...

Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

by DCDave
Strong, credible allegations of high-level criminal activity can bring down a government. When the government lacks an effective, fact-based defense, other techniques must be employed. The success of these techniques depends heavily upon a cooperative, compliant press and a mere token opposition party.

Dummy up. If it's not reported, if it's not news, it didn't happen.

Wax indignant. This is also known as the "How dare you?" gambit.

Characterize the charges as "rumors" or, better yet, "wild rumors." If, in spite of the news blackout, the public is still able to learn about the suspicious facts, it can only be through "rumors." (If they tend to believe the "rumors" it must be because they are simply "paranoid" or "hysterical.")

Knock down straw men. Deal only with the weakest aspects of the weakest charges. Even better, create your own straw men. Make up wild rumors (or plant false stories) and give them lead play when you appear to debunk all the charges, real and fanciful alike.

Call the skeptics names like "conspiracy theorist," "nutcase," "ranter," "kook," "crackpot," and, of course, "rumor monger." Be sure, too, to use heavily loaded verbs and adjectives when characterizing their charges and defending the "more reasonable" government and its defenders. You must then carefully avoid fair and open debate with any of the people you have thus maligned. For insurance, set up your own "skeptics" to shoot down.

Impugn motives. Attempt to marginalize the critics by suggesting strongly that they are not really interested in the truth but are simply pursuing a partisan political agenda or are out to make money (compared to over-compensated adherents to the government line who, presumably, are not).

Invoke authority. Here the controlled press and the sham opposition can be very useful.

Dismiss the charges as "old news."

Come half-clean. This is also known as "confession and avoidance" or "taking the limited hangout route." This way, you create the impression of candor and honesty while you admit only to relatively harmless, less-than-criminal "mistakes." This stratagem often requires the embrace of a fall-back position quite different from the one originally taken. With effective damage control, the fall-back position need only be peddled by stooge skeptics to carefully limited markets.

Characterize the crimes as impossibly complex and the truth as ultimately unknowable.

Reason backward, using the deductive method with a vengeance. With thoroughly rigorous deduction, troublesome evidence is irrelevant. E.g. We have a completely free press. If evidence exists that the Vince Foster "suicide" note was forged, they would have reported it. They haven't reported it so there is no such evidence. Another variation on this theme involves the likelihood of a conspiracy leaker and a press who would report the leak.

Require the skeptics to solve the crime completely. E.g. If Foster was murdered, who did it and why?

Change the subject. This technique includes creating and/or publicizing distractions.

Lightly report incriminating facts, and then make nothing of them. This is sometimes referred to as "bump and run" reporting.

Baldly and brazenly lie. A favorite way of doing this is to attribute the "facts" furnished the public to a plausible-sounding, but anonymous, source.

Expanding further on numbers 4 and 5, have your own stooges "expose" scandals and champion popular causes. Their job is to pre-empt real opponents and to play 99-yard football. A variation is to pay rich people for the job who will pretend to spend their own money.

Flood the Internet with agents. This is the answer to the question, "What could possibly motivate a person to spend hour upon hour on Internet news groups defending the government and/or the press and harassing genuine critics?" Don t the authorities have defenders enough in all the newspapers, magazines, radio, and television? One would think refusing to print critical letters and screening out serious callers or dumping them from radio talk shows would be control enough, but, obviously, it is not.

Posted by nee hier renee demain @ 12/26/2002 07:41 AM EST

Lets get busy!Start at the beginning.Raise questions about Sept 11th.Print out leaflets with the facts about the Twin Towers collapse.Hard facts. NORAD failures.The hijackers who are still alive.Steel does not melt at 600°c.The collapse of building 7.Bush read a story about Goats for 20min.Odigo 2hr warning.Mossad spies.etc etc etc.Get this stuff printed and distributed throughout New York for starters.Someone should make a page that can be printed by anyone with a computer and printer and get the ball rolling.Reach a wider audiance with this stuff.
You have to make a co-ordinated effort or it will not work.Get other sites like whatreallyhappened involved or Serendipity or APFN.Get as many people involved as possible.
One could pack a lot of info onto a two page leaflet with all the anomalies and lies and facts about Sept 11th,,even a pic of the Pentagon just after it was struck with caption "spot the Boeing"I do not have the tech to make such a page but I am not short of ideas.

How many average Americans have seen a pic of the Pentagon just after it was supposedly struck by the 757?That would raise questions right away.

Posted by Bob @ 12/26/2002 08:17 AM EST

I discovered this website recently and though initially I was taken aback by voxfux's "intensity" I went through the material he's provided and linked to.
I had missed the Hinckley/Bush connection so kudos on that one voxfux.
One thing we all agree on is the value of the internet. This is one area where we must be ever vigilant. They will try and shut it down if it suits them. Mirroring is imperative. Backing up data is also a wise plan since some things have a habit of disappearing down the memory hole.
Even if you think a site will be there forever it still pays to save pages in at least a raw html format. I might also suggest that people make their own web sites with a focus on one or more related issues. It's also a good way to save and distribute links to the "good" sites.
One other thing...since the feds are working outside of our constitution and common law heritage it is extremely important to review our history (not just the American branch, but the whole tree that makes up anglo-saxon history. This is not to imply a racist angle, quite the contrary. All of us in North America, Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and India have as our heritage a legal system built on natural law...NOT grants of privilege by some man-made heirarchy. Knowing our common-law past is essential to legally counter the admiralty/equity/civil process the feds presume to steer you into by assuming a contractual jurisdiction and thereby entirely subverting common-law due process.
I strongly recommend readers to this site for a primer on what I mean;
http://www.bbcoa.com/articles/common_law.shtml

Posted by LoneWolf @ 12/26/2002 09:45 AM EST

Well folks, I was in Harvard Square this past weekend and spent some time sitting talking with "peace" proesters. I asked how many passers by yelled insults or threw things and all of them agreed that "everyone" was very supportive, offering thumbs-up, hugs and handshakes all around. The men I spoke with were almost all veterans; Nam, Desert Storm. Being a vet myself we talked aobut how we really do love this country, and most were saddened by how far off course we've come.

I agree with a couple of comments others mentioned about the mainstream press slamming the net and indy press. In my own experiences, opponents scream the loudest when they're confronted by the truth.

Many people I have talked to who are not online, don't own PC's or have access to the internet truly believe that the internet is full of child molesters, drug dealers, scam artists, kiddie porn, commies, satanists and terrorists.

I keep telling them, that this is not the case. yes some of these vermin are online, but there is an unthinkably large volume of really well written and thought provoking writing out there, plus equally mind boggling access to any subject they can think of. I've been on the net since 82 where i was active in a number of newsgroups. I was hooked from the beginning as I saw this huge pool of free information and personal interchange.

I am still waiting for the hammer to come down on the net, and hope it never happens.

On 99% of this site, I find it thought provoking....ohh that's right thinking is a high crime today.

Posted by Bigboote @ 12/26/2002 09:56 AM EST

VOX,HELL FUCKIN'YEAH!! Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.Fox news et.all are always asking for input so let us oblige them. They may ignore us but we can put a press on their system.Hell sometimes they screw up and voice a sane persons thought . I know it is hard to watch, but the major national news services(propaganda)are a limited source of reprisal. VOX/Penn in 04!

Posted by Paintedman @ 12/26/2002 11:12 AM EST

One place you can begin to give people some of their own shit is at:

http://www.conservativeschatroom.homestead.com

Posted by Monkeywrench @ 12/26/2002 11:43 AM EST

Whats this? Doing something? No more siting around pinning for a world full of peace and happy thoughts? You cazy hippies are actually going to do something? I think its a good idea. You cats should realy get more oranized. You know set up a "base" like that guy in that cave over in that place. Al something or other, I forget. You should get a list of everyone who reads this site , and break it down into location, and then hook all those people up who are in a hundred miles of each other. Vox mabye you can ask the FBI for their list and get one of your fans with the time and computer savy to do that for you. And then link that list to all the other hippie sites.

And then if you can get all those people to put up or shut up. You might get a small enough army to scare the government enuff to actually have them start aressting enuff people in large numbers that a few people in the suburbs might take notice. Mabye when their "crazy" but otherwise peacful family members get tossed in jail for being "terriosts" they will have to take notice!

Thanks

Monkeyus

VOX COMMENT ANNOTATION: What's the point? The more you keep labeling the thoughtful and intelligent people in this forum "Hippies" the more you sound like a fuckin' out of touch OLD GEEZER. Now I tried to throw some props in your direction when others were less kind to your views so why keep up with the useless and frankly embarrassing "hippy" comments. I have not gotten the impression that anyone here is a, "hippy." That is just way out in left field. Is it because people aren't charging around with their guns locked and loaded that you assume that they must be hippies? I mean really, come off the hippy shit. Hippies ended 30 years ago. Get over it already.

Posted by Monkeyus @ 12/26/2002 12:03 PM EST