LIVE INFOWARS CHAT: channel #infowars on dalnet when its up and #prisonplanet on Efnet when its not. A great group of infowarriors have been gathering in this channel since 911 to share info, stories, support, etc. Please join us!

Posted by infowarrior @ 01/01/2003 07:12 PM EST

its just amazing, 14 year old kids in other countrys get it, but grown men in america are utterly clueless.

Posted by damn @ 01/01/2003 07:18 PM EST

For a "Happy New Year" days laugh, please check out Kermit and shrubyatollah in action at:

www.pieman.org/kermitbush.gif

Posted by Alfonzo @ 01/01/2003 07:55 PM EST

robbie, where do you get the pw...thx.

Posted by e_pluribus_unum @ 01/01/2003 08:30 PM EST

about 30 comments into this subject I posted a little about current events ref:911 and similar activities now ongoing. CNN answered my question about the photos. check out cnn.com or http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/pakistan.wanted.man.ap/index.html Also see my comments posted on the discussion board at Freemasonwatch.freepress-freespeach.com

Posted by north wind @ 01/01/2003 08:40 PM EST

about 30 comments into this subject I posted a little about current events ref:911 and similar activities now ongoing. CNN answered my question about the photos. check out cnn.com or http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/pakistan.wanted.man.ap/index.html Also see my comments posted on the discussion board at Freemasonwatch.freepress-freespeech.com

Posted by north wind @ 01/01/2003 08:41 PM EST

I've been following this site for a while and admire Vox's courage. However these action plans are doomed to failure. In order to get the word out about 911 you must explain why it all happened. You need to tell people the planet is running out of fossil fuels and that means 90% of us are going to die and there's nothing anyone can do about it. My question is why bother. Why not let people enjoy their last few years of comfort even if it is in a police state?

Vox had an article a while back about energy. A couple of posters tried to tell the truth about it and got abused. The truth is renewable energy can't save us. Humanity took a real wrong turn when we started using oil heavily and that allowed our populations to soar to totally unsustainable levels.

David Pimentel at Cornell just released a comprehensive study on sustainable energy. They found that renewable energy, even if fully implemented, could only replace about half of current US energy usage and that would require about 1/6 OF THE TOTAL LAND AREA OF THE UNITED STATES. And they didn't even analyze the net energy benefit to see if it could be sustained indefinitely without fossil fuels. Imagine the trillions of dollars it would take to implement such a plan. It isn't going to happen.

So what if we were able to convince a majority of Americans that the Bush administration was behind the 911 attacks? What are the alternatives? Most of us simply wouldn't survive for long without Middle Eastern oil so there really isn't any alternative (in most people's minds) to going to war. If it's either us or them, it'll be them.

I've written letters to the editor, and even had some of them published! But it doesn't change the fact that 90% of humanity is going to die soon. Think the Bush cabal isn't aware of that? Of course they are! The CIA has all the inside information on world oil reserves. They've known that oil production was going to peak shortly after the turn of the century for years. When you understand that everything that's been going on makes sense.

If you are strong and able bodied get yourself a piece of land as far away as possible from the city and any military targets and start homesteading. Even better find a group of like-minded individuals and form a sustainable community. Maybe you'll have a shot at surviving, but it won't be easy. As for the vast majority, they're doomed. Most will probably end up killing themselves.

Cheers.

Posted by Thomas @ 01/01/2003 08:44 PM EST

we need a political party. a political party to deal with past deeds, not a party of future ideology. the liberals, the progressives, the classical conservatives, the libertarians, the greens, the republicrats, the socialists, the anarchists, the apathetic, EVERYONE. the planks of this party is to take this system back into the hands of the people. all ideology will be put aside until that task is accomplished. it would definately pool resources of everyone in the country who is against this bullshit. money could be donated if time cannot. i mean shit, we are the people who actually run this country, we are the producers of this society. we have enough resources at our each and every individuals disposal that if we focused them like a "laser" beam targeted at the system we could bring it down like a sick animal on the side of the road. we coupd produce professional quality information for people. if we could educate the people, explain to them in easy to read usa today for dummies charts and explain the nuts and bots as to how this system works, how its dismantling america, and how they are stealing from them, you would own this government. of course thats notwithstanding the issue of vote fraud but thats another issue. but I firmly believe that pure truth could win you the congress, and the white house.

ive been saying this for years but im afraid it may be too late of a timetable to do anything of this sort.

Posted by american @ 01/01/2003 09:22 PM EST

Thomas, I am the author of 4 books regarding wind energy, micro hydro and fuel cells. You are right that oil demand will outstrip supply 2012-2015. This is very serious. We do have huge methane hydrate deposits off coastal regions world wide. Wind energy was devasted by wall street analysts partial to oil interests clobbered Kenetec U.S. Windpower. These are the same anaylists and firms who supported Enron et al. Wind can play a role as a distributed generation tool, as will fuel cells and solar. Biofuel could play a role but my work with ethanol proved otherwise in an economic and energy consumption sense. The only apparent problem with renewable technologies is cost. Wind however does have a very attractive economy of scale but utility interests have fought this vigorously. I have tried to eliminte and/or raise the cap on unit size allowed under Maine PUC chapter 313 (now 360), through intervention of related dockets but as yet have been unsuccessful.

Posted by north wind @ 01/01/2003 09:43 PM EST

ok vox please dont judge all the older people in the same pile as the PIECE OF SHIT TRAITORS that have run this world to destuction I may be in my early 40's but I've been say this same shit since I was in high school and I was and am treated the same way than as NOW.Same bad nightmare just different faces in the same fuckin asshole traitor familys its been getting worse all the time. please don't judge the book by the cover.I'am elated to see some fresh minds and souls with some brass balls!Sometimes its smarter to sit back and watch the enemy setting up the next move!You're of no use if you're in jail or dead,it's better to wait for reenforcements.As a carpenter working in office remodling you hear and see a lot of things they think you don't understand..hahaha, jokes on them...I'am well educated. schooled and self taught in many subjects I use their weapons against them.Been a big mouth about this stuff right in front of their faces and lookright in their eyes while saying it.Belive me they are ready and waiting to comit mass murder,make no missake!There are more than 4MILLION UN troops here waiting for WE THE PEOPLE to stand up to fight they're not going to think twice about killing americans thats why our boys are over seas they know they would never turn on their country.the old traitors have one weakness thats young sex toys ...setem up put on cameras and PUT ON NET that means any where they GO! show them as the scum they are! to the world they have us on cam now it their turn...turn around is fair play!!!!give them no where to hide,roach's always scury when you turn on the light!VOX a lot of my friends are on the inside working BEHIND the scenes trust the silent giant,He's sleeps with one eye open...trust in the people we will win in the end GOD will be on our side for truth and honor

as it is written so shall it be

Posted by an american forever @ 01/01/2003 10:05 PM EST

oh ya i almost forgot for those of you that are doing their dirty work for them Iknow your laughing right now but,remember one thing if they get their way and they kill us off guess WHO"S next on their list!!!! because now YOUR on the bottom!!!!! :)
pay backs are a BITCH!!!!

Posted by an american forever @ 01/01/2003 10:45 PM EST

make your own bumperstickers of protest, peace, informational websites (such as 'voxnyc.com), etc. here's the website to customize your own:

http://www.makestickers.com/

Posted by nee hier renee demain @ 01/02/2003 01:50 AM EST

So, there was a post that someone was going to check on you there at 'jay street'. Did you meet? How come that post is missing now???? Hmmm....just another 'anonymous source' I suppose that we are supposed to believe.........

Posted by Itz Wong @ 01/02/2003 04:08 AM EST

USE MUSIC!

Tracks exposing the 9-11 INSIDE JOB:

WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
http://www.daveyd.com/paristrack.mp3

BUDDY, BUDDY
http://www.delcanton.com/cds/kaneandsalem.asp#buddy

Posted by GeronimoSkull @ 01/02/2003 05:01 AM EST

to: e_pluribus_unum

er, what's pw?

Posted by robbie @ 01/02/2003 07:12 AM EST

robbie, I tried to save the extracted emails to text and required a PW to do so...Thx.

Posted by e_pluribus_unum @ 01/02/2003 10:16 AM EST

Thomas --

What you describe makes it all the more imparitive that a sane group of people take political control. What we have is people fighting over lifejackets while the boat is sinking instead of WORKING TOGETHER TO FIX THE DAMN LEAK!

Think of how the A-bomb was invented. In a time of great crisis, the most brilliant physicists in America figured out how to split the atom in a matter of months -- for the purpose of killing the largest number of people as possible. Tell me, what could we accomplish if we devoted all our resourses into saving ourselves, instead of coming up with a better missile?

At this point, I'm just worried that we won't get a chance. The truth can set us free.

Posted by Jody Paulson @ 01/02/2003 11:01 AM EST

to:e_pluribus_unum

i understand now, i'll sort it out when i get home. Can't go teasing the beast in it's own yard. that's just silly.

Posted by robbie @ 01/02/2003 12:01 PM EST

Report: Yesterday I handed out approx 800 fliers. I made up fliers that cut a letter size paper into 3 pieces. They were ideal size for putting under windshield wipers. I also had a bunch of approx business card size to distribute at internet cafes. I think that is a good source. So far the people at the internet cafes have been open to letting me put stacks there. I also put the archive version of 911timeline.net on my web site www.nogw.com/9_11.html That site is no longer up and all search engines have deleted reference to it. Even Google cache was incomplete. I haven't been reading about other people's accomplishments, how come?

Webber

Posted by Webber @ 01/02/2003 05:43 PM EST

vox, love your site, not a basher. However, I highly disagree with your generalization about old people, even though you try to temper it with a disclaimer. It is true that there is a certain appeal to the idea of the pre-60's generations dying off, and many of their superstitions with them. However, there are literally hundreds of thousands of over-55 types who feel as strongly as you do, and MILLIONS of under-21 types who don't give a fuck about anything but booty, video consoles, and cars. In my town, there is a group that is out on the main drag every day with tables, petitions, stickers, etc. trying to help stop the Space Arms race. There is never anyone under 50 at their table, though they are not a specifically old-folks group. They are an invaluable resource because 1) they often have more money than younger folk 2)have WAY more free time to get active 3) have first-hand experience of the political struggles of the past century 4)THEY VOTE 5) they write REAL, not email letters to their elected officials. Talk to a 30's-era unionist if you think only young people have radical thoughts! Not ripping you vox, just saying that thinking "no more old people" is about as likely as "getting Satan's evil out of everyone's heart" to get bush out of power.

Posted by el diablito @ 01/02/2003 06:14 PM EST

Watch my show. I look forward to your comments.
http://globalfreepress.com/sgtv/

Posted by Wat Tyler @ 01/02/2003 08:01 PM EST

The US is up for a big struggle or an immediate descent into slavery.

You have to make a choice:

Join, Fight, or Flee. Being a TV, lite beer, credit card zombie is not an option, it means you are already a slave.

Each choice has consequences for you and others.

As the world grows into a global tyranny, the flee option will be harder and harder.

So in the end, it is fight or join.

However, think about your moves. Use strategy and logic. Don't do anything desperate unless it is the last option.

We are facing a babylonian system of pure evil at its heart.

Certainly, this is the beginning of WWIII and this time the US is the aggressors. Ultimately the US will pay the price for its unwarranted aggression. If you don't believe this read the Grand Chessboard. It explains that the US needs a pearl harbor event to draw us into a less democratic society that can become a global superpower empire.

Ultimately, the goal of this aggression is the creation of a world government. It will be either the United States creating this new government or it will be the fall of the United States and the horrific destructive consequences that will create the vacuum that will allow the UN to fulfill a global role.

However, the UN is no saint, don't be fooled. All of the large players that are aggressors are working to create a world state, aka the New World Order.

The upcoming economic collapse of the US under its enormous debt-money banking system will help server as a catalyst.

Certainly, with human capabilities today and the technology that we possess we have the capability to create a world government.

However, those that are trying to create it... ie Zbigniew Brzezinski, Bushes, Rockefellers, Queen of England, Dutch Royalty, Rothschilds, the Council on Foreign Relations, central bankers and a whole host of Luciferians (just watch "Eyes Wide Shut") are not spiritually and intellectually mature enough to create a durable, lasting system. Certainly, instituting a world government via creating fear and disinformation is not a successful long-term strategy, even though these folks might have the wealth and power and will to attempt to create a one world order, they are going to fail miserably bringing down much of humanity.

The way to unifying humanity is not through military domination, debt slavery, disinformation, hatred, exploitation and dishonesty.

The way to the unification of humanity needs to be based on compassion, understanding, communication, collaboration, empathy, sacrifice.

The current leaders have been seriously misled to follow the policies that they are enacting. They see self-gain from it. However, the rest of humanity is not idiotic as they would like to believe. An Ivy League degree does not necessarily confer wisdom or intelligence. Believe me.

So essentially we are witnessing the third world war driving to a New World Order. This war may last 25 years and may appear to have initial success, aggrandizing its power and influence rapidly.

However, the rapid ascension of the Anglo-American alliance of evildoers will certainly fail in the end as all would-be global dominators have.

Someday humanity will look back at out current epoch as a very sad, dark period.

No matter how much these people believe they will fulfill political, religious or psychosocial ends, they will ultimately fail considering that they are going against the grain of humanity, attempting to impose their will.

Humanity is like a spring... you can put your foot down on it for a long time... but sooner or later you will move your foot, for one reason or another... and at that point the spring will escape and lash back.

If only we could fast forward 20 years.

- MaxO

Posted by maxo @ 01/02/2003 11:39 PM EST

It's ok Robbie, you don't even have diagree with Vox to get banned

Posted by royallypissedoff @ 01/03/2003 02:59 AM EST

It's ok Robbie, you don't even have disagree with Vox to get banned

Posted by royallypissedoff @ 01/03/2003 03:00 AM EST

To Max0. Fantastic! Do that more. WHERE EVER you can.

I posted earlier to say how much I have been inspired by (most) of this forum. Get up, get out, and DO something. The single page flyer is nearly ready. Folded in half it presents a picture of WTC with '9-11 IS A LIE' in big letters. When opened out it presents ten questions people should ask themselves regarding what they are told happened that day. Standard stuff all reading this will know. But they don't. At the bottom it says 'If you don't care you can screw this up and throw it in the bin. But WWIII will be a little harder to ignore. In big letters.
These will be distributed on car windshields and through letter boxs in the town I live in in England. I have made contact with the local "Stop the war coalition" who organise demonstrations in Britain (the last one drew 500,000!) and through them will try to find out what effect it had, if any, and try to recruit more interested people. If it's a success, I'll move to the next town. I'm shit scared right now. I've just seen that congenital moran Dubya on the news talking to the military about how it is his job to ensure peace by starting a war. Give me strength!

So I'm going to have a go at the first thing I can think of and see if it makes anybody start talking. If it doesn't, I'll try something else.

Vox, keep going mate. Your New Year message is as inspiring as our man Max0. I'm sure sometimes a person as obviously commited as yourself must feel like you're banging your head against a wall. But your not. People need the kind of writing you are putting in front of them. So like I said, keep going.

OH! I just rememembered another victory. Although a rather small one. My mothers birthday is September 11th. So last birthday I bought her David Ickes 'Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Centre disaster: Why the official story of 9/11 is a monumental lie'.(think what you like about him, it's a great book). I thought, as her birthday will be forever linked with what happened that day, she could use a little alternative thought on the matter. Punchline being, it worked! She read it with enthusiasm and now can't stop banging on about it to her mates.

It all adds up.

Happy New Year to you Vox and all clear minds in the US of A.

phink

Posted by phink @ 01/03/2003 04:30 PM EST

Dudes, dudettes, forget it.
Planet X is coming - pole shifts, 3 mile high tidal waves, earthquakes, volcanoes, plagues, bad tv shows and other horrible disasters. Why do you think the moron and his fellow pederast fled to Nebraska when the towers fell? Sure for a little boy boinking yeah, but they would be safe and secure and away from the coasts! Fighting is good sure, and there ain' t no better way to go down if you're going down, but take care of yourself retreat into the NOW it is all we trully have, a better world can be made here of course; but if the dickheads and Planet X mess this one up, just know in your quiet self that there is paradise waiting beyond all of your imagining. And you don't have to blow yourself up on a bus to get there.
peace and love

Posted by X-man @ 01/03/2003 07:01 PM EST

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/science.html#iras

Posted by Duke @ 01/03/2003 07:14 PM EST

Planet X? Follow the link...

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/science.html#iras

Posted by Duke @ 01/03/2003 07:15 PM EST

Greetings from Australia.
Hey vox, dont knock the oldies, Iam 61 and have been watching and doing my thing about this boil on the arse of mankind for nearly 40 years, the bottom line is "their" objective, which is quite simply to erradicte 90% of us , by ALL the means available to them, "They" deem us useless eaters.
Comment.. Your site, your the moderator, we all know what its about, get your posters back on track, apart from webber and phink the rest are starting to sound rhetorical again, ACTION is all that matters.
Lots of good ideas here on the site, another one is get your bookstores to order the relevant books on the subject, shit there are hundreds of them, we do it over here and guess what, people do buy them and the word spreads.
Closing comment about us oldies, not that it matters much, but shit, we can spell. Good luck. About planet X, it aint going to happen, the amateur astronomers would have seen a red dwarf comming at us by now, poor old zeta,s
Ken.

Posted by Ken @ 01/03/2003 09:46 PM EST

One of the places I have left info is on the tables at the post office--you know, where everyone who owns a P.O. Box goes to sift through their mail. Everyone can do this too. I can only hit a few in my area. But there are THOUSANDS of post offices across the country. Just (discreetly) leave a stack of neatly well-printed articles or flyers with a BIG HEADLINE at the top and people will pick them up and take them with them. Leave about 50. The guy who cleans up the place won't remove them until after closing time anyway. (And of course he'll have to read them also.) Maybe some people will go POSTAL! Let's hope so.

Posted by Ann Arkiszt @ 01/04/2003 02:08 AM EST

Hey all, I'm another dissident from Australia (51st US state). Photocopying is the shit @ 4c a copy here, next day off from work I'm hitting Post offices and cars. Also, stickers and banners and t-shirts rock. I made a t-shirt which says "USA - No 1 Terrorsist", and I've never had a negative comment about it. People DO feel this way; they are just scared to say it. I know of some who put stickers on every bus and bus stop and more, and I've noticed more anti-war graffiti too. Please excuse the way I write (or what I DON'T write), we must NOT admit to illegal tactics, this is ALL montitored I'm sure. The more we all talk about it and spread the word, the more people will be willing to join us. Many are scared to be dissident or "unpatriotic", but do feel this way. I appreciate all those with the guts and motivation to ACT NOW!!!! My govt has just started a $15M psy-op (terror awareness ad campaign); come on Aussies (and everyone else), stand up and fight!

ps. yo Vox, some of us ARE doing things, we just can't admit it!

Posted by Ali McBee @ 01/04/2003 07:17 AM EST

www.vistaprint.com

For 250 free business cards, (just pay shipping/handling of about $6 to $7) you design them online to say whatever you want.

Then just hand out to everyone or post to bulliten boards, etc.

Posted by Boo Radley @ 01/05/2003 01:32 AM EST

Oh, I forgot to mention,

You know all those homeless people who stand around with signs on street corners, why not put them to work holding signs that say, "No blood for oil" or "911 Coverup - See voxnyc.com" etc.

Tell these people that all those who support or visit these web sites have by mutual agreement agreed to donate a dollar to them everytime they see them.

Do you think this stands a shot?

Posted by Boo Radley @ 01/05/2003 02:03 AM EST

Stop it. Please. Quit trying to convince the masses that Tyrany is here and now. Do something about it.

If you think big brother is watching, Blind him. Laser pens work well. BB Guns in a pinch and you do not as of yet, need to register BB guns.

If you thing Goverment is spying one your computer, fine, overwelm them with information. Send them everything but the truth.

De-Organize, Cells of one to three,no more than that. If one gets caught and talks, it will not destroy the resistance. Never tell the next cell what or when you are doing it. Just know there are tens of thousands of cells fighting with you.

Stop lolly gagging on web sites and take action now. By yourself or in a cell, "you are responsible for what we used to call freedom."

When the "State comes out actually admits that the new world order is here, Like it or Not. Then get your weapons and meet at your state capital for the final offensive. Either that, or fellow patriots will try to forget that you ever called yourself and "American".

May God have mercy on us all that we have let it come this far. I have no one to blame but me, and I am ashamed.

Freemen1776

Posted by Freemen1776 @ 01/05/2003 05:43 AM EST

Stop it. Please. Quit trying to convince the masses that Tyrany is here and now. Do something about it.

If you think big brother is watching, Blind him. Laser pens work well. BB Guns in a pinch and you do not as of yet, need to register BB guns.

If you thing Goverment is spying one your computer, fine, overwelm them with information. Send them everything but the truth.

De-Organize, Cells of one to three,no more than that. If one gets caught and talks, it will not destroy the resistance. Never tell the next cell what or when you are doing it. Just know there are tens of thousands of cells fighting with you.

Stop lolly gagging on web sites and take action now. By yourself or in a cell, "you are responsible for what we used to call freedom."

When the "State comes out actually admits that the new world order is here, Like it or Not. Then get your weapons and meet at your state capital for the final offensive. Either that, or fellow patriots will try to forget that you ever called yourself and "American".

May God have mercy on us all that we have let it come this far. I have no one to blame but me, and I am ashamed.

Freemen1776

Posted by Freemen1776 @ 01/05/2003 05:44 AM EST

Stop it. Please. Quit trying to convince the masses that Tyrany is here and now. Do something about it.

If you think big brother is watching, Blind him. Laser pens work well. BB Guns in a pinch and you do not as of yet, need to register BB guns.

If you thing Goverment is spying one your computer, fine, overwelm them with information. Send them everything but the truth.

De-Organize, Cells of one to three,no more than that. If one gets caught and talks, it will not destroy the resistance. Never tell the next cell what or when you are doing it. Just know there are tens of thousands of cells fighting with you.

Stop lolly gagging on web sites and take action now. By yourself or in a cell, "you are responsible for what we used to call freedom."

When the "State comes out actually admits that the new world order is here, Like it or Not. Then get your weapons and meet at your state capital for the final offensive. Either that, or fellow patriots will try to forget that you ever called yourself and "American".

May God have mercy on us all that we have let it come this far. I have no one to blame but me, and I am ashamed.

Freemen1776

Posted by Freemen1776 @ 01/05/2003 05:45 AM EST

Stop it. Please. Quit trying to convince the masses that Tyrany is here and now. Do something about it.

If you think big brother is watching, Blind him. Laser pens work well. BB Guns in a pinch and you do not as of yet, need to register BB guns.

If you thing Goverment is spying one your computer, fine, overwelm them with information. Send them everything but the truth.

De-Organize, Cells of one to three,no more than that. If one gets caught and talks, it will not destroy the resistance. Never tell the next cell what or when you are doing it. Just know there are tens of thousands of cells fighting with you.

Stop lolly gagging on web sites and take action now. By yourself or in a cell, "you are responsible for what we used to call freedom."

When the "State comes out actually admits that the new world order is here, Like it or Not. Then get your weapons and meet at your state capital for the final offensive. Either that, or fellow patriots will try to forget that you ever called yourself and "American".

May God have mercy on us all that we have let it come this far. I have no one to blame but me, and I am ashamed.

Freemen1776

Posted by Freemen1776 @ 01/05/2003 05:46 AM EST

The Bank for International Settlements may have dodged justice at the hands of the U.S.
federal courts in New York and Boston, but it did not escape altogether. In a decision released November 22, 2002 --

www.pca-cpa.org/PDF/BIS%20Award%20final%202.pdf

-- the Arbitration Tribunal established at the Hague to hear disputes involving the BIS
ruled that the bank employed an improper valuation methodology in connection with its compulsory withdrawal in January 2001 of all privately held shares of its American, Belgian, and French issues. At that time, the Bank paid SwF16,000 (approximately US$9,280) per share based on a valuation prepared by J.P. Morgan and a supporting fairness opinion by Arthur Andersen.

In rejecting the bank's valuation, the tribunal ruled (at paragraph 209) that the
former private shareholders should receive "a proportionate share of the Net Asset Value of the Bank, discounted by 30 percent," and that for this purpose, the bank's NAV is SwF33,820 (or US$19,034), plus the appraised value of the bank's real estate. In adopting the 30 percent discount rate rather than the discount rate in excess of 50 percent employed by J.P. Morgan, the Tribunal stated (at paragraph 201): "[T]he most telling evidence in favor of a discount of 30 percent is the consistent use of it by the bank in pricing shares issued to new central banks."

The Tribunal has retained jurisdiction to determine the valuation of the bank's real
estate, the exact per share amount remaining due to former shareholders (including
interest thereon), the final allocation of costs of the arbitration, and certain other minor issues. Accordingly, if the former shareholders' proportionate share of the bank's real estate is sufficient to cover the costs of the arbitration, they should receive an additional payment of over SwF7674 (or US$4,044) per share.

The three claimants in the arbitration were Dr. Horst Reineccius of Germany, Mr. Pierre
Mathieu and la Société Hippique de La Châtre of France, and First Eagle SoGen Funds Inc., of the United States, represented by Debevoise & Plympton (John H. Hall and Donald
Francis Donovan). First Eagle's gold fund, managed by Jean-Marie Eveillard, was the largest private shareholder in the bank….

* * *

Reg Howe's complaint was filed a year before the rash of corporate scandals that recently
have ravaged America. Yet look who shows up among the primary characters in the BIS charade, as cited in the Deminor press release:

"The Hague assented to Deminor's arguments contesting the valuation method adopted by J.P Morgan (advisory bank) and by Arthur Andersen (independent expert)."

Both Morgan and Andersen are up to their neck in the Enron scandal, among many others.
Since Reg filed his suit, Andersen, that esteemed accounting firm, has been disgraced and put out of business, while Morgan continues to be found out as a banking scoundrel. Both Morgan and Andersen have now been advised by the BIS arbitration panel that they did the BIS's private shareholders wrong.

What else is new with Morgan and Arthur Andersen? AA is slowly becoming history.
Morgan is going to follow.

That Judge Lindsay did not let Reg have his day in court is profoundly disturbing in
light of the ruling of the BIS arbitration panel. It must have Thomas Jefferson stirring in his grave, given GATA's well-documented findings:

-- The U.S. financial markets are manipulated. We do not have free markets. While GATA suspects that many markets are rigged, we have extensive proof that the gold price is managed by a Gold Cartel.

-- There is no free press in America either when it comes to financial matters. News
about GATA has been suppressed in the mainstream U.S. financial press, even though we have had extensive discussions with every major U.S. financial press outlet. The phrase" message discipline" comes to mind. The U.S. financial press works under that understanding of the political/banking world. I consider them to be a disgrace to the principles they supposedly uphold.

Now we find that an arbitration panel convened by the BIS itself has ruled against the bank when a U.S. court would not even consider the same complaint.

What a great country America has become:

-- Rigged financial markets

-- No freedom of the financial press

-- A judiciary that will not tackle the big banks and a deceitful government

Do not take GATA's findings lightly, gold fan or no. While this started out as our quest to expose the gold fraud and effect a free gold market, GATA's journey is taking us into more profound concerns:

Thomas Jefferson said:

"The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of the lending institutions and moneyed incorporations."

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocrat that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of the day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period, and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers too plainly proves a deliberate, systematic plan of reducing us to slavery."

That is exactly what GATA finds taking place. The lending institutions and moneyed incorporations like the Federal Reserve must be stopped before they take America down. The only way that is going to happen in the short-term is to expose the gold fraud. It is time that the U.S. Government and the bullion banks be held to a standard that the entire investment world is clamoring for: truth, transparency, and accountability.

BILL MURPHY
CHAIRMAN
GOLD ANTI-TRUST ACTION COMMITTEE

Posted by unknown supporter @ 01/05/2003 01:14 PM EST

Here's something I have done in the past couple of weeks: put up a website disseminating news, information, and opinions.

http://www.usterror.com

VIVE LE RESISTANCE

Posted by metis @ 01/05/2003 07:01 PM EST

Hey y'all, Check this out!

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0105-01.htm

A good way to reach lots of people. Hope to see everyone out there.
Salaam!

Posted by Ali McB @ 01/06/2003 12:27 AM EST

Some useful links...

Before we can spread information, we need access to it. Here's some more useful information about the Bushnazis' lies and terrorism:

The reality behind the Bali bombing:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steveseymour/nuke/bali_micro_nuke.htm

Bush's grab of power:
http://www.hermes-press.com/nazification_step3.htm

The people behind the CIA:
http://www.bartcop.com/nazigop.htm

9/11:
http://falloutshelternews.com/Sept11th_Unanswered_Questions.html
http://falloutshelternews.com/9_11_ODDITIES.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/govknow.htm

Other examples of fake terror:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/index.html

The first 9/11 link in this list is an objective one - it doesn't go as far as claiming Shrub is involved, but it should be enough to get people to start thinking.

I posted the following to sites that tend to support Shrub (to weaken the support in his own rows - mostly the [innocent] conservative Christians who support Shrub because he's anti-abortion -- what I wrote is not entirely true, and I'm ashamed of that, but it's probably the only way to infiltrate them):

I'm a very conservative person - I'm strictly opposed to murdering children (commonly referred to as abortion), and in favor of the family system God wanted. As such, I've always supported the Republican party -- but in the light of recent news, this has changed.

The horrible attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon (may God prevent further strikes like this!) and the - obviously flawed - media coverage made me reconsider.

An independent investigation of the events surrounding the terrorist activities (the full results can be found at http://www.falloutshelternews.com/Sept11th_Unanswered_Questions.html)
make quite clear that middle - to high ranking members of the current administration were involved in the attack. It's just too many points to be all coincidence.

The plans for an upcoming, mostly unprovoked, war against Iraq point in a similar direction.

I'm still conservative, and will always be - but as an honest and anti-violent person, I cannot support this administration anymore.

I'm voting against Bush in 2004 - and hope everyone else does the same.

Posted by BushIsHitler @ 01/06/2003 01:13 PM EST

Bucking the System

Most of us want to buck the system in one way or another, ranging from small acts of independence like crossing the street on a red light, to the extreme end of the spectrum, where fanaticism lies. But to make any real difference is like swimming upstream during rainy season.

Or is it?

We’ve reached the silicon age. Computers… zeros and ones, run our world. Without the computers, what we call civilization (I would argue that homo sapiens has not yet achieved civility or civilization) comes to a standstill.

We have this love hate relationship with our computers. They drive us crazy with crashes, viruses, spam, and software that just plain doesn’t work. At the same time, we can’t live without ‘em.

Neither can Uncle Sam. Or King George. Or George’s evil uncle, Dr. “Evil” John Poindexter, convicted criminal of Iran Contra infamy.

There’s a little known system out there called Echelon. It’s the NSA’s version of a hoover with the vacuum bag taken out, and with a filter in its place that filters all the crap out of phone calls and emails, and passes on the ‘good stuff’ to the NSA. This system has some serious power… it can decrypt, translate, and ‘think’, in the sense that it uses a set of protocols to decide what’s relevant and what’s not.

According to www.echelonwatch.org the system intercepts satellite, microwave, cellular and fiber-optic traffic, the world over, including communications to and from North America.

Some will argue this system is needed to fight Terror.

Well, they certainly did a bang-up job on 9/11/01, didn’t they?

They did a great job at OKC too, and at the Khobar Towers, and those embassies in Africa.

This system isn’t as much for spying on Al-Qaeda as for spying on you and me, and for spying on behalf of US corporations during things like bidding contests for government contracts overseas… the EU’s investigation found that this may have gone on, and that Echelon may have shared information with US companies bidding against German, French, and other competitors.

Echelon is part of a larger system of control that’s slowly been put in place for decades. And now that an honest to God criminal, John Poindexter, is in charge of Total Information Awareness, we should all be VERY concerned what a cocaine dealer like Poindexter wants with info on your email, phone calls, purchases, and whatever else he wants to snoop on.

Suppose one was to take part in Engagement Against Total Information Technology (EAT IT), and give Mr. Poindexter a workload the likes of which God himself has never seen, in the name of Information Over-awareness. The more garbage information dumped into his TIA system from email forwarded to the NSA, the less snooping he can do, because his hard drives will get filled up and clogged.

You see, they CAN’T just tell the computer to ignore anything from your specific phone, computer, or satellite connection, because if they did, then people would get themselves OFF the list by spamming Echelon, and then use those lines to do naughty things.

No, they have to monitor it all, according to a protocol that acts as a filtration system. There HAS to be a protocol, making decisions at light speed, because computers move in a linear flow chart fashion, one task to the next. There’s no way around it… yet.

Mind you, I would never suggest you do anything to break the law or make the authorities suspicious of you. Those in the US or elsewhere who do this do so without my suggesting you break any laws. It might be illegal under the new laws, but who knows. The law is deliberately vague so they can open it up to interpretation.

Echelon “red flags” encrypted signals, and key words. A sample set of keywords can be found here, for research purposes.

http://thermonuclear.org/echelon.html

I can think of how to update the list quite easily, and I’m sure others can too.

One thing you could do is simply leave that list at the bottom of all your email…

But I don’t recommend doing so, for three reasons.

First, since Jam Echelon Day, they’ve probably got some filters. I’d bet the whole list at once would be ignored, even if it differs slightly, because they’ve got some kind of frequency table that would know it’s junk based on stats they got from JED.

Second, they probably have a filter that ignores coded messages over a certain length, because no good spy or terrorist would send a 3000-word essay. Anyone trained in security (or anyone with common sense) would use codes, contractions, and as few characters as possible, because the longer the message, the easier it is to decode.

It’s easier to decode because with long messages you start to get a frequency table of letters, which helps the computer sort out what possible messages are contained in the file.

Third, if you’re the only one doing it, they might get really pissed and come over for a chat. Most people wouldn’t be comfortable in that position.

If you wanted to be REALLY annoying, you could invest in an encryption program, encrypt the word list, and THEN put it at the bottom of the email. But the whole list would probably allow Echelon to skip the email, because I’m sure the people who designed it are really, really clever in devising algorithms that act as filters.

BE WARNED, CERTAIN ENCRYPTION SOFTWARE IS ILLEGAL FOR AMERICAN CITIZENS. BEFORE YOU DOWNLOAD ANY ENCRYPTION SOFTWARE, MAKE SURE TO CHECK THAT UNDER FEDERAL LAW, IT’S LEGAL WHERE YOU LIVE.

Even more annoying, you could add just a FEW of the key words at the bottom of the mail, and then encrypt them. You’d want to make sure not to do anything to actually incriminate yourself by sending a message that actually refers to committing a crime.

The better the encryption, the more likely your email is to be passed on down the line.

So the most annoying garbage email for Echelon is probably short, written in code words, encrypted, and not sent to large mailing lists. In other words, normal, everyday Internet chatter, with special “UP YOURS” messages to Echelon encrypted therein.

It really does work. The Hacker crowd engaged in “Jam Echelon Day” some time ago, and within hours they had the CIA and NSA crying uncle, and begging for mercy, asking them to ‘PLEASE stop it’.

When have you ever heard the CIA say, “please”?

They are TOTALLY dependent on their technology these days, so it’s a level playing field, in a strange way, because we outnumber each agency by a factor of tens of millions to one. Even if their computer is the best in the world, it’s still going to get backlogged if enough pissed-off people decide to take simultaneous action.

I would bet dollars to donuts that an active campaign to send encrypted “CLOSE THE TOTAL INFORMATION AWARENESS OFFICE AND FIRE JOHN POINDEXTER” messages, along with key words, might make them think twice about their new Big Brother system, and FAST.

If everyone was to add stuff to the bottom of their emails, and just keep up their normal email habits, pretty soon Echelon would be blind as a bat.

Unless, of course, they removed TIA and Echelon’s ability to spy on Citizens.

If you can’t be bothered to buy encryption software and go to all that trouble, you can borrow my acronym idea, and probably stir up trouble just by creating acronyms. Not that I’d want anyone to stir up trouble, but, it’d be as easy to do as 1…3…2…

For example, I’d bet that…“Someone at my original new weight and yellow too, only getting a measure exactly might expect everyone to throw under Eric’s sister”…might get an Echelon red-flag.

If you follow the first letter of every word, it reads… SAM ON WAY TO GAME. MEET TUES.

The message doesn’t even have to make sense. It could just be words that say something in a sneaky way, and I bet Echelon pulls it for examination. Until they can program Echelon to recognize sarcasm, satire, and irony, we can ALL outfox a computer, if we really try.

Anyone think this baby might get a red flag?

“Park anywhere, cause Katy and Greg expect it soon. It never does cry or bring laughing” – PACKAGE IS IN DC. OBL.

If several thousand people were to mess with them on a regular, multiple time a day basis… CRRRRUUUUNCH! Meltdown.

It might even be interpreted as “heavy Al-Qaeda traffic…”

The beauty of it is, they can’t really complain, because they’re “not spying on you”, because the technology to do things like go from voice to translated text, data mine at light speed, and bypass your Microsoft operating system security with an NSAKEY backdoor encryption key inserted into MS Explorer, “doesn’t exist!”

The system could be made useless overnight.

Go to www.cryptome.org to find out about the Microsoft NSAKEY.

MIND GAMES

See if you can figure these out and send me the answers… some are harder than others. First person to get all four answers correct will get a booby-prize. Somewhere hidden in this email as a typo is a decryption key for the last one…

“before Usama shows, hunt Hussein, and surely get out that no one better read any Iraqi news.”

“No, Amy! muddy socks? New? Amy, look! Kris amorously smooched Ingrid! Take five, or rest cause Harry’s staying awhile.”

“dont flo or peg yeti tit to see reno yelp. ever fur under solo yeast? be no order his ignorance? Heh, tough. rot one gig under to your stuff, Iggy.”

“so, veil shannon to see enough of eating shots. go stiff embers. expect cobb to own eater’s address. ready? trade shifts.”

My guess is the last two forms of encryption would most likely set off red flags for the Echelon system, especially if the content contained some Echelon key words…

Rather than do something like this, which can take a while if you haven’t had practice with word games, I’d suggest waiting until the next Jam Echelon day, and THEN jump on the bandwagon. I’m certain someone would let you know if and when such a thing was to take place.

That is, of course, unless you’re like me and don’t mind kicking 800 lb Gorillas in the nuts, and then waiting to see how they respond. In any case, I have this feeling we’ll be seeing a jam TIA day or jam Echelon day in the near future.

I say this because there are hearings coming up on the Internet, studying whether to restrict Internet freedoms. When you piss hackers off, you mess with some very talented people. Some of those people have serious mean streaks, and they too know how to play…

TOTAL BUSYBODY AWARENESS.

We’ve covered one way to buck the system.

Another way is to START USING CASH FOR EVERYTHING .

NO stupid, your Instant Teller card is NOT cash.

Get cash, and then throw away those smart cards and bar code cards you get from stores to give you special ‘discounts’. Those stores are going to be obliged by law to share your purchase info with Busybody Poindexter. Start using cash for everything, and Dr. Evil’s got total information BUPKIS on your purchases.

Why do you think they’re trying so hard for a cashless society?

In a cashless society, only those who own banks (or Bushes) can commit acts of organized crime with ease. They like their monopoly.

Under the Total Information Awareness office, if I was to purchase fertilizer, gasoline, and plumbing supplies over a short time span, I’d be on a watch list… possible bomb suspect.

If I was to purchase benign things like a stereo that came in a box with Styrofoam packing, and then filled up the car before stopping to pick up a cake and balloons for a birthday party, or condoms for the wallet, I’d be on a watch list… possible arson or murder suspect.

If I was to purchase teddy bears, an egg timer, and a chemistry kit, I’d be on a watch list… possible bomb suspect.

Go buy cleaning products and hardware on the same day? Watch list. Mad bomber.

Wire, batteries, table salt, and an aquarium? Watch list. Possible chemical attacker.

I’ve left out components, so no one can accuse me of showing anyone how to make a bomb or a chemical booby trap. And I strongly recommend you not contemplate doing anything stupid… I mean that sincerely.

The list of ‘suspicious’ purchases never ends, because these days any reasonably intelligent person can make a bomb from stuff that’s found in your local convenience store. EVERYTHING is a dual use product, with a little improvisation.

Remember that old show with Mr. T and George Peppard, the A-Team?

I loved that show. It was about these Vietnam Special Forces vets who return home and form a private investigation/mercenary squad. They’d take a mission, and go find the bad guys. Mr. T would pity the fools for a while, and then the A-Team would save the world by going to the grocery store and setting up a homemade bomb factory.

Today, the producers of that show would be tried for Terrorism, just like Sherman Austin of Raise the Fist was charged for having a website that had information on it which was freely and widely available elsewhere on the Internet.

They’d be convicted because they show the materials needed to make a bomb, and arguably how to assemble it, which could be construed as giving material support to Terrorism.

If you think that’s ridiculous, you should be bucking the system every chance you get, because I got news for you… IT’S NOW THE LAW IN THE USA.

The scary part? FEMA, the government, is soliciting your children on the Internet, trying to get your KIDS to fill out a checklist of dual use products that you have in your home. And then they ask your kids for a name, address, and email address.

It’s called the FEMA For Kids Scavenger Hunt. Really. I kid you not. Look…

They call it the FEMA Disaster Kids’ Family Scavenger Hunt checklist

Then they ask you kid to fill in this form to get a certificate with your name on it, which you can have printed on your computer.
This is what “Patriot” Acts get you…

The Dubya Youth… turn in your parents, and get a prize!

Turn in your neighbors, and get a medal!

“Freedom of speech?”

“Yeah, boy, just watch what you say!”

Turn yourself in NOW, thought criminal…

Our dissident treatment center spa in sunny Guantanamo Bay has brand new, newly renovated accommodations, full air conditioning, and the Guinness World’s record lowest-fare, no-frills, one-way flights to Cuba!

For your added comfort on our brand new Hercules C-130 flight to Camp X-Ray, we provide animal urine pads, chain seat belts, hard-iron floors, and burlap sacks which do triple duty as crash helmet, sleeping visor, and air sickness bags… one size fits all.

*Please note, the Department of Defense accepts no liability for lesions resulting from any acidic vomit deposited around one’s neck during flight. We won’t take off your sack, even if you’re choking to death, so don’t even ask. Please be a man about it, and die without unreasonable complaint*

Applying for a free trip is easy! All you have to do is go to Washington, and demand your Constitutional rights back.

With some persistence, you’ll be at the top of our list in no time… special 2 for 1 deal for Muslims and families from any country that ends in ‘-stan’… Saudis need not apply until after Saddam Hussein is gone.

Heil Dubya!

And now, back to our show, already in progress…

Under the Patriot Act, Gandhi, Martin Luther King, and even Rosa Parks, who refused to go to the back of the bus, could be charged in certain states with Terrorism. In Utah for sure, thanks to their Corporate Terrorism law that piggybacked onto the Patriot Act.

The Patriot Act is so ridiculous I can’t even begin to describe how ridiculous it is. Many cities in the USA are choosing common sense over a Fourth Reich, and rejecting the Patriot Act outright. I’d suggest that calling one’s Councilmen and Mayor’s office, to ask that they do the same, would be a good thing.

If the cities and states won’t play ball, Patriot Act go bye-bye.

This next trick will take some homework on the reader’s part, but this one is totally legal and on the up-and-up…

A PENNY SPENT

Got any parking or speeding tickets from the city lately?

Close to losing your license on points, or in danger of HUGE insurance premiums because of too many tickets?

Depending on where you live, there may be an answer. In MANY places, the way tickets move up the chain and lead to you getting points on your license it this… you get a ticket, you pay the ticket, when payment is received, the ticket moves up the ladder and you get points on your license.

In many of the places where this is the way it works, there’s a weak link in the chain… most governments, whether large or small, are required by law to BALANCE ACCOUNTS before closing them.

So if you pay $75.01 (or $85 to be safe about it) on a $75 ticket, they have to send you a refund. And they don’t close the account until the refund cheque is cashed.

So, you just don’t cash the refund cheque.

Ever.

I believe this still works in most of Canada, and should work in much of the USA. You may get the points in a year when the cheque expires, but it will still buy time for you to have other points on your license expire, and will avoid the points from the ticket going onto your insurance premiums in that year.

Don’t sue me if it doesn’t work where you live. Like I said, it doesn’t work everywhere., but if one looks hard enough, there’s always a legitimate way to use the letter of the law to screw the system.

OPERATION TIPS

Then there’s the defunct (for now) operation TIPS. TIP lines could be a great way to buck the system.

Believe it or not, there ARE some good people at the FBI. People doing their jobs like Kevin Williams, Colleen Rowley, and the latest two fellows to come forward whose names I can’t remember right now.

We can use TIPS lines to educate them…

TIPS: Operation TIPS, do you have something to tell us?

Caller: Yeah. There’s this man that lives nearby, and he’s really suspicious. I’ve known him for almost 20 years, but his activities make me think he might be a terrorist…

TIPS: Go on…

Caller: Well, a couple of months before September 11, he started this new job. He used to work as a cop, so he has skills above that of your average Joe.

TIPS: Go on…

Caller: He was acting suspiciously the whole month before September 11. Pretending not to hear when asked questions, erasing stuff off important looking forms and rewriting it, and he hangs around with these REALLY bad people…

TIPS: Can you tell us where he lives, or give us a name?

Caller: Yeah. His name is Robert Mueller, and he hangs out with his friends at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. I think they might have been in on September 11 too…

TIPS: Operation TIPS, do you have something to tell us?

Caller2: Yeah. I think I know who did the Anthrax attacks.

TIPS: Go on…

Caller2: Well, this guy hangs around with Nazis. I mean REAL Nazis, not the skinhead kind. Serious guys.

TIPS: Go on…

Caller2: His dad was a Nazi, and his dad’s friends were Nazis too. They used to do all kinds of crazy stuff in the 80’s. Killing people, dealing drugs, they even had military hardware and their own airplanes.

TIPS: Go on…

Caller2: And here’s the thing… these guys are RICH. I mean loaded. They have so much cash they’ve got their own aerosol company, and some of them are scientists and stuff, so they know how to make anthrax for sure. AND, I’ve heard them talking over dinner about the stuff they’re invested in… Hazardous waste disposal, Radiation suits, Chemical suits, medical companies, Anthrax vaccine, LOTS of stuff that would make money from an Anthrax scare…

TIPS: Can you tell me their names?

Caller2: Yeah. George H W Bush, Frank Carlucci, and John Major.

TIPS: Operation TIPS, do you have something to tell us?

Caller3: Yeah. There’s these two guys I know who I think might be terrorists.

TIPS: Go on…

Caller3: They both work at places that are like fortresses. One guy shakes hands with Saddam Hussein, and gave him weapons. I know this for a fact. There are pictures. The other guy used to deal illegally with Libya, Iran, and Iraq. They’re nasty guys, and I think they might want to kill a LOT of people.

TIPS: Do you have some details as to who and where they are?

Caller3: Yeah. They both live in Washington. Saddam’s buddy is this guy named Donald Rumsfeld, and the traitorous guy’s last name is Cheney, I think…

TIPS: Let me guess… you know these guys that you think are terrorists, right?

Caller4: Yeah! How’d you know?

TIPS: I bet they live in Washington, DC, don’t they?

Caller4: Wow, you guys are amazing!

OPERATOR: The number you have reached is not in service. Please check the number and dial again. Thank you for calling…

Caller5: …

OPERATOR: Goodbye.

Keep in mind, if you’re thinking about doing something like this, that obstruction of justice is against the law. What that means, considering who’s in the White House, I have no idea. But if you want to call in TIPS on the REAL criminals, make sure not to do it from home, and if you choose to do it regularly, make sure you invest in one of those voice-masking toys you can buy at spy stores. Otherwise, you-know-who will probably send crew-cut fascist goons to your home or place of work.

The point of all this is simple: YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BREAK THE LAW TO BUCK THE SYSTEM.

You can do it by being clever. Talking around things, talking in hypotheticals, and in deceiving negatives (I’d never suggest you break the law).

You can do it by delivering information over emails or phones you know are suspect, by reading off prepared scripts detailing Bush, Cheney, Mueller, or Poindexter crimes.

This is how Lenin had to write under the Czars. It’s how people had to write in Germany. It’s how people had to write in the Soviet Union. It’s how people write in China.

And now, it’s Americans’ turn to be clever.

Tell stories. “Invent” fables. Change character names. Learn to speak in metaphor if necessary. Clog the system with word games and codes and ciphers and boogeyman words and a little bit of self-satisfied, armchair, rebellion.

Or you could just say screw it, and speak your mind. It’s your choice. I choose a little of both, making sure to push the envelope JUST enough to be really annoying for my arrogance and disrespect for authority, but not far enough to be sent to Guantanamo Bay.

While the Internet is still reasonably free, before Microsoft’s Palladium copyright protection smart operating system becomes the norm, and before the government gets legal statutes recognizing internet speech as Terrorism, USE YOUR FREEDOM TO BE A PAIN IN THE REAR TO THE SYSTEM, without putting yourself in jeopardy.

You may think you’re powerless to change things, and that the government’s too powerful to be resisted. But you’re wrong.

YOU are the powerful ones, if you can count.

Fifty million votes won, in an election where only 40% of registered voters went to the polls. Between the two parties, they got less than 100 million votes.

That’s 150 million votes out there… three times more votes than either of the two parties could win on their best day.

The nation is YOURS, when enough of you get tired of bending over for the system.

A bloc vote for a popular write-in candidate would carry almost every state in both house races, and would walk into the White House a President with the largest majority government mandate in American History.

Walter Cronkite? Michael Moore? Oprah? Any takers?

With the right Candidate, with a 100% turnout for Election 2004, and a sustained “Write-in for X” campaign, there could be government of the people, by the people and for the people, overnight.

It would be a Revolution!

Revolution, without firing a shot. New campaign finance laws. NO MORE special interest toadies or FOCCED-up (finance, oil, chemical, credit, energy, defense) front men in Congress. A little more health care. A LOT more education. A little less governmental paralysis, and A LOT less war.

It’s millions to one in our favor. It always has been, but most of us have been too caught up in our own lives to notice. More of us are noticing the cracks in the armor, and chipping away at the cracks day after day, year after year, until millions of little cracks turns into one big crack, and the walls come tumbling down.

So don’t be some fascist’s doormat… be a thick-soled cog.

And BUCK THE SYSTEM!

Peace

Posted by Temujin @ 01/07/2003 12:45 AM EST

ive printed and handed out a flyer.
i will detail its very easy construction.
go to the 9/11 independant investigation article on this site and grab the confession video/true binladen comparison pic under the section titled "framing bin laden"
put this centered on the top of a word file.
place this message below:

THE FRAME ON THE LEFT IS FROM THE BIN LADEN “CONFESSION TAPE” THAT WAS RELEASED BY THE PENTAGON. (YOU KNOW IT, THE ONE WHERE HE LAUGHS AND ADMITS RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE 9/11 ATTACKS.) THE FRAME ON THE RIGHT IS A KNOWN IMAGE OF BIN LADEN. ANY HUMAN WITH EYES CAN SEE THAT THESE ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT PEOPLE. THE LEFT IMAGE SHOWS A MAN WITH A SHORT NOSE AND FULL FACIAL FEATURES. THE RIGHT IMAGE SHOWS BIN LADEN WHO HAS A LONG PROTRUDING NOSE AND GAUNT FACIAL FEATURES. BESIDES THIS “CONFESSION TAPE”, THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT HAS NO OTHER EVIDENCE THAT BLAMES BIN LADEN FOR THE ATTACKS. BESIDES THIS TAPE, BIN LADEN HAS REPEATEDLY SAID THAT THOUGH HE PRAISES THE ATTACKS, HE WAS NOT RESPONSIBLE. THE PENTAGON AND THE CIA CLAIM THAT THEY CAN’T SHOW THEIR “REAL” EVIDENCE DUE TO NATIONAL SECURITY REASONS. HOW CONVENIENT.
DON’T BELIEVE THE CORPORATE MEDIA! YOU ARE BEING LIED TO!
HERE ARE SOME FACTS:
-HUNDREDS OF WARNINGS REPORTED BY FBI AGENTS WERE IGNORED AND EVEN SUPPRESSED BY HIGHER LEVEL AGENTS.
-BUSH DISSOLVED THE FBI BIN-LADEN TASK FORCE BEFORE 9/11
-PRE 9/11 AMERICAN AIRLINES STOCK TRADING POINTS DIRECTLY TO PRIOR KNOWLEDGE BY THE CIA’S HIGHEST RANKS
-A GROUP OF TOP PENTAGON OFFICIALS CANCELLED THEIR FLIGHTS THE NIGHT BEFORE THE ATTACKS
-PAKISTANI SPY GENERAL MAHMOUD AHMAD, THE ALLEGED “MONEY MAN” BEHIND THE ATTACKS, MET WITH SENATOR BOB GRAHAM AND REPRESENTATIVE PORTER GROSS, THE CHIEFS OF THE SENATE AND HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITEES, ON THE MORNING OF 9/11
-BY LAW, FIGHTER PLANES MUST BE SENT OUT WHEN A PLANE EVEN DEVIATES FROM ITS FLIGHT PLAN. JETS WEREN’T LAUNCHED UNTIL 50 MINUTES AFTER THE FIRST PLANE HIT THE NORTH TOWER AND 80 MINUTES AFTER THEY KNEW FLIGHT 11 HAD BEEN HIJACKED.
-WHEN CHIEF OF STAFF ANDY CARD INFORMED BUSH OF THE PLANE CRASHES, INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR INSTRUCTIONS HE IMMEDIATELY STEPPED AWAY. WORST THING IS, BUSH CONTINUED TO SIT THERE AS CHILDREN READ HIM A STORY ABOUT A HUNGRY CATERPILLAR.
-THE BLACK BOXES ON ALL OF THE PLANES WERE DESTROYED, BUT ONE OF THE HIJACKERS PASSPORTS MAGICALLY SURVIVED
-THE CIA’S AND THE PENTAGON’S TROOPS CONDUCTED MOCK PLANE CRASH EXCERCISES IN THE WEEKS BEFORE THE ATTACKS
-SENATOR PAUL WELLSTONE VOTED AGAINST THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, AGAINST UNLIMITED PRESIDENTIAL WAR POWERS, AND FOR AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION INTO THE ATTACKS. HE DIED RECENTLY IN A SUSPICIOUS PLANE CRASH.
-BUSH AND VICE PRESIDENT DICK CHENEY REPEATEDLY SQUASHED EFFORTS TO SET UP THE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.
-HENRY KISSINGER, THE MAN BUSH APPOINTED AS THE LEADER OF THE “INDEPENDENT” INVESTIGATION, WAS THE MAIN ADVISOR TO THE OIL COMPANY UNOCAL, WHO WAS TRYING TO BUILD A MASSIVE OIL PIPELINE ACROSS AFGHANISTAN BUT COULDN’T DUE TO OCCUPATION BY THE TALIBAN. HE RESIGNED AS LEADER BECAUSE THAT INFORMATION ALMOST BECAME PUBLIC.
-THE INVESTIGATION TEAM IS COMPOSED OF PEOPLE EITHER IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, PARTICIPANTS IN PAST COVER-UPS, OR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS, A GROUP THAT HAS SAID A TERRORIST ATTACK, “REAL OR PROMOGULATED”, WOULD MAKE PEOPLE WILLING TO GIVE UP THEIR LIBERTY FOR “SECURITY” AND HELP PAVE THE WAY FOR A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.
U.S. TERRORISM IS AN INSIDE JOB!
IT HAPPENED IN ROME, IT HAPPENED IN GERMANY: FAKE TERROR USED TO BEND THE PEOPLE INTO ACCEPTING A POLICE STATE.
TAKE A PEEK AT SOME RIGHTS YOU’VE LOST IN “WAR ON TERROR”:
RIGHT TO PROTEST & DISSENT: Protesters and political dissidents across the country are being arrested, and the broad definitions of “terrorism” and “act of terrorism” in the Homeland Security bill could be used to label anyone for nearly any crime as a terrorist
FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION: Government may monitor religious and political institutions without suspecting criminal activity to assist terror investigations.
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION: Government has closed once-public immigration hearings, has secretly detained hundreds of people without charges, and has encouraged bureaucrats to resist public records questions. The Homeland Security Department legally operates in complete secrecy.
FREEDOM OF SPEECH: Government may prosecute librarians or keepers of any other records if they tell anyone that the government subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation. One man who made a comment about a “burning Bush” got 37 months in prison.
RIGHT TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION: Government may deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes, and monitor federal prison jailhouse conversations between attorneys and clients.
FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCHES: Government may search and seize Americans' papers and effects without probable cause.
RIGHT TO PRIVACY: The Total Information Awareness program has the right to read your emails, tap your phones, keep track of every purchase you make, and identify your face from a distance, thus keeping track of your movements. Not just targeted individuals, but a grand database of America.
RIGHT TO A SPEEDY AND PUBLIC TRIAL: Government may jail Americans indefinitely without a trial.
RIGHT TO LIBERTY: Americans may be jailed without being charged or being able to confront witnesses against them.
RIGHT TO LIFE: The CIA can kill you, even if you are a citizen. No Trial, No Explanation, No Warning. Just immediate death.
POSSE COMITATUS: Though not lost yet, the law that keeps military off American streets was “bridged over” during the DC sniper investigations, and the government thought it went so well that the law is under review and might be removed completely
FREEDOM, PERIOD: Ever heard of Random ID Checkpoints? WHAT ABOUT CIVILIAN LABOR CAMPS?
TIME TO WAKE THE FUCK UP! SHARE THIS WITH EVERYONE YOU KNOW! MAKE COPIES!

apologies to vox for stealing some of his lines (theyre just so good!)
if you fuck with the margins and font size and pic size enough, you can fit it on one page, trust me.
i bought a can of spray adhesive and put this shit up everywhere i can think of.
school entrances (college and high school)
movie posters at malls (right over the stars faces)
slipped into pro-bush books at bookstores
slipped into that bitch ann coulter's books
nearby army recruitment offices.
given to police officers.
given to my old high school teachers.

so make this easy little flyer now. now you cant use laziness or business as an excuse for inaction.

-Ozgar Pugnus

Posted by O.P. @ 01/07/2003 09:39 AM EST

cool site.
it may not be much, but me and my friends have been running a simple poll. We all live in the uk, and apparently, according to our beloved leader tony, are all just lining up to wave the plucky troops into battle in the persian gulf. so all we have done is just ask everyone they know, are you in favor of the war. and then get them to ask everyone they know if they want a war. the result, well i have had a few people i know from work come up to me and say thanks, as before they thought they were a minority not wanting to send men to their deaths, but after asking everyone they know, and getting them to do the same suddenly they have realised they are actually in the vast majority. and if anyone is still interested, we have loads doing this, and currently, after all the networking involved we have found 1 person in favor of war. 1 out of hundreds. as soon as everyone realises we are the masses, the hobbes idea becomes a closer reality.
have fun

Posted by winman @ 01/07/2003 12:06 PM EST

They have killed all the little ones with their eyes open wide

They have killed all the little ones while their faces still smile.

Yusuf Islam formerly 'Cat Stevens'
-----------------------------------

From: "Institute for Public Accuracy" <ipamedia@nationalpress.com>

Denis Halliday, Former UN Official, in Iraq

> Institute for Public Accuracy
> 915 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045
> (202) 347-0020 * http://www.accuracy.org * ipa@accuracy.org
> ___
>
> Tuesday, January 7, 2003
>
> Interviews Available:
> Denis Halliday, Former UN Official, in Iraq
>
> DENIS HALLIDAY
> [Baghdad is 8 hours ahead of ET; best times to call, ET, are 7-10 am, 3-6
> pm and 11 pm to midnight.]
>
> Halliday is a former head of the UN oil-for-food program and a former UN
> Assistant Secretary General. Over the last few days he has met with Deputy
> Prime Minister Tariq Aziz, Foreign Minister Naji Sabri, and Trade Minister
> Mohammad Saleh, as well as the heads of UNICEF and UNDP in Iraq, two Iraqi
> families and numerous shopkeepers he knew from his earlier time in
Baghdad.
> He said today: "The majority of Iraqis are staying together with families
> at home, there's little sign of a mass exodus as there was in 1991. The
> government has distributed three months of the oil-for-food program
> supplies. There's concern the U.S. would bomb food facilities, as it did
> here in 1991 and in Afghanistan. The other major concern is water. The
> people who can afford it are hoarding bottled water. The government is
> drilling water wells. I can find no preventive arrangements for healthcare
> of young children after the expected collapse of electricity, water and
> sewage treatment as happened in 1991. No shots for cholera, typhoid, and
> other various waterborne diseases that will likely break out if the U.S.
> bombs electrical and water facilities as it did in 1991."
>
> Halliday added: "There are some 30 air raid shelters around Baghdad, but
> given the U.S. bombing of the Al-Amiriya shelter in 1991, people do not
> want to use them. Most Iraqi homes do not have basements; they will be in
> their homes and quite vulnerable.... There's little awareness of the
health
> effects of the U.S. potentially using depleted uranium in a city of five
> million.... There's a desperation regarding the economic sanctions. Some
> Iraqis even hope that war will bring an end to the sanctions; not that
they
> want war, but they are desperate after 12 years of suffocating
> sanctions.... Iraqis do not expect serious assistance from Arab neighbors
> or from Europe; no one who has power will protect them. The majority of
> Iraqis don't understand what they could possibly have done to deserve the
> military aggression of the United States. There's a sense that if the
> American people really want to prevent the massacre of civilians, then
they
> have to stand up and do so.... Regular people here do not believe that
Iraq
> has weapons of mass destruction. The idea that Iraq is a threat to the
U.S.
> is widely regarded as just laughable. They see three reasons for Bush's
> militaristic stance: U.S. imperialistic ambition, control of Iraqi oil and
> support for Israeli expansion."
>
> KATHY KELLY, kkelly@igc.org, http://www.iraqpeaceteam.org
> Kelly is coordinator of Voices in the Wilderness, a group challenging the
> economic sanctions.
>
> JIM JENNINGS, jimjennings@earthlink.net
> President of the humanitarian aid organization Conscience International
and
> a longtime professor of Middle East and Islamic Studies, Jennings has
> worked extensively in Iraq.
>
> JEREMY SCAHILL, jeremybgd@yahoo.com, http://www.iraqjournal.org
> Scahill has spent several months in Iraq over the last year. He broke the
> story of Rumsfeld meeting with Saddam Hussein and other Iraqi officials in
> the 1980s.

Posted by They have killed all the little ones @ 01/07/2003 12:37 PM EST

Email influencial liberal and moderate reporters and encourage them to write the truth. What they need to do will alienate them from them from the mainstream media.

Posted by Kilgore @ 01/07/2003 02:08 PM EST

Hi Y'all,

Call me Attaboy. Muhammed Attaboy. Me and my buddy Monsure-is-Hahas have just parked our rental car at Logan Airport. Inside are a copy of the Koran; "How to Steer - with amazing accuracy - a BIG Cumbersome Boeing 767 Pulling 3.5Gs in Mid-flight" by Donald "Duck" Rumsfeld; and "Box-cutters and Plastic Knives: Hijacking Made Easy" by Harry "Houdini" Fleischer. Shit - nearly forgot - must put big sticker on windscreen reading: "Suspicious Arab Terrorist Vehicle! RIGHT HERE --->". Yeah, that's better.

We go over the cunning plan one more time. Fellow Al Quo'vadis agents, funded by USAma bin Fram-ed, have been training lackadaisically in Cessnas (!) at flying schools across the US of A ("Yo!. I recognise the geezer. Surly guy. Always wore a turban. Could be from Brooklyn"). But seriously, none of us could've passed a pig-flying exam. Why didn't we train in a Muslim country? Because, Bubba, we had to lay a simple trail for the Zionist-controlled FBI to follow. Must say, we nearly blew it ("Say what? Ya don' wanna learn how to take-off and land? Get the fuck outta here, muthafucker!"), but - Allah Actnbarf - big Zionist and Judeo-Christian crazies ("Woof! Woof! Armageddon! Woof! Woof!") ignored the dead-giveaways and stopped the many investigations. Anyways, day after tomorrow, they will know our names, aliases, great-great-grandfathers' penis size and have nice, full-coloured, well-photographed mugshots of us all - proudly displayed on that Israeli Network: CNN. Courtesy of Mossad, of course. Very strange, but well over a year from now, seven of these nineteen suicide-hijackers will still be alive and kicking. Naturally, as devout Muslims, we got pissed last night and drew attention to ourselves - guess that's blown Paradise and the 70 Virgins. But our mission orders, here and in Europe, were clear : Leave subtle clues like "ATTABOY and his fellow ISLAMIC FANATICS went THISAWAY --->".

Double-check contents of shoulder bag which of course will be checked-in (on every suicide mission I have been on, I have learned one can't be too careful, old boy). But it will not be put on-board. Well youse knows American Airlines, sunshine. Here it is: The Suicide Note. Who the fuck wrote this crock of shite? No Muslim on Earth could have written this - there should be at least a zillion "Our beloved Prophet, Peace be upon Him"s, for a start. Passport: Yep. This will soon be found near Ground Zero - having survived a 24.000-gallon, refined-kerosene fuelled inferno 1/4 mile up in the air. (This dawg don't hunt? Sure it will. Remember Waco Willis in "Tough Shit II"?). Box-cutters: Yeah, these babies will sure the hell keep 50+ big, hungry, no-messing Yanks at bay. Yessireebob. Still, being good guys, we will let the hostages make impossible phone calls. Ever tried to make - a la Ms Olson - a call-collect from a 767 seat-phone without a credit card?; And "Hi Mom, this is Mark Bingham". However rattled you are, you ain't going to give your Mom your surname; And an air-stewardess well-trained in hijack situations, with 12 years experience, saying: "I see buildings and water. Oh my God! Oh my God!". Holy Toledo! You reckon she wouldn't have recognised the New York sky-line?; And "The hijackers are wearing red bandannas". Give us a break for Chrissakes. Muslims about to die for Muhammed would never wear RED - a colour disliked by the Prophet. WHITE, BLACK or GREEN, maybe. What dumbo wrote these scripts? Dumbo or whistle-blower? Hmmm.

Four commercial airliners will be hijacked and will fly hundreds of miles off-course, with their transponders off (Dumb move, boys. This will alert ALL the sector's FAA-controllers' screens with a normal radar blip - because each monitors a different altitude range, but altitude cannot now be determined, so they all get the blip displayed.) The FAA must now, immediately, contact NO(rth) American Aerospace Defence Command. Yes, Sherlock, the dog that didn't bark. NORAD - a military body housed deep inside Cheyenne Mountain, with its friend-or-foe aircraft and ICBM tracking system for the continental USA and Canada, the most sophisticated ever built in known human history - will fail to scramble their interceptor fighter jets, armed or unarmed, until after the 3rd hit and 80+ minutes after the first 'plane went off-course. ("We wuz a coupla minutes too late, Guv, honest".) They will however shoot down the fourth 'plane over Pennsylvania. Why the hell USAma has given them, on a plate, plenty of time for interceptions when it's far better to use airports near the targets for the quickest possible hits, is incomprehensible. I figure some traitorous, high-honcho bastards (it only takes a few) - in the FBI, CIA (Black-Ops), NORAD, Congress and, yea, verily, unto the criminal gang at The White House - know exactly what is about to happen. An atrocity of this magnitude will allow the Texas "IQ91" Cowboy to bomb, with impunity, innocent women and children in Afghanistan - planned months, maybe years, ago - in order to recover the lost £3-trillion CIA world-wide heroin trade and to be near the massive Caspian Sea oil and gas reserves. ("The poppies will soon be a-blooming again, boys!".) Not only that. But also to take Iraq - with unprovoked, horrendous slaughter, yet again - for its oil (Hurry, Hurry while stocks last, Cheney!) and for a future Eretz Israel, maybe (cue vicious defamation from the Anti-Defamation League). What's your glorious record so far, Yankeedoodledandies? THIRTY ONE countries bombed since 1945. Well Done. Good Job. You must be very proud of yourselves. You evil bastards.

But, I digress. We walk briskly into the airport and are caught on CCTV (on ONE and ONLY ONE camera!), and approach the check-in counter. I hand over my passport and ticket. " Muhammed Attaboy?". "Yes". "Sorry sir, but you don't seem to be booked... ". "Oops, sorry - wrong flight". "OK, have a nice day". We beat a hasty retreat. NONE of the "hijackers" names or aliases will appear on the hijacked airlines' passenger manifests for this infamous day.

I look at my genuine ticket and passport: Menachim "Chameleon" Silberstein; Mossad agent; Pre-programmed mind control (Psy-Ops); Arab terrorist impersonations; Bar-Mitzvahs; and Bali (+ underground WTC) micro-nukes a speciality". We catch the flight to Hawaii. The 'planes will be hijacked by a ground-to-air and air-to-air anti-hijack (what tragic irony) system which began development in the 1970s. Hopefully, the passengers and crews will be quickly rendered unconscious by a gas administered via the air-conditioning system, and will know nothing of the terrible events about to unfold.

The US government and its ass-licking media will promulgate the most absurd conspiracy theory: a Saudi Arabian caveman and 19 - er, no, so far, only 12 - young Arab students are responsible for the 9/11 attacks. Jeez. Most people will believe anything their (s)elected (mis)leaders tell them. Do you?

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by Dave @ 01/07/2003 02:35 PM EST

I have started writing out the addys for the friendly websites on dollar bills (unfortunately I’m Canadian and can’t write them on US bills where they are more relevant). I have forwarded Vox’s NYC nuked article to ~1500 friends, associates, and folks I don’t know. In the email I have asked them to forward it to everyone they can, EVEN if they don’t believe what is contained w/in the article. I encourage everyone reading this to do the dollar bill trick as well as the forwarding of the Vox article as well. I’m also creating flyers to be displayed in public places of viewing. I few lines of writing and at the bottom of each piece of paper, there are tear-able tags of paper with website listings on them. I have posted these in my small community of 5000 people. 2 days from now when I travel away, I will be distributing these in a town of 40,000. You get the picture, so do the same.

I’m enclosing below a group of pre-made “posts” that others can copy and alter slightly in order SPAM OR POST casually in various message boards, or even to include them in emails sent out to as many people as you may know. I encourage others to include pre-made posts and emails like I have done. I’m going to create a page, or maybe Vox could make a NEW page (HINT HINT) where we can list sample emails, sample posts, excellent articles etc for others to copy and paste and USE in the fight whether they are used in forums or emails etc. I’m also enclosing a listing of links to high traffic relevant forums in which to visit, and I encourage others to list/link other forums here as well. When you go to the forums and put up one of these posts, post back under a different name agreeing with what you originally posted. It sounds lame but wtf! People let what others think influence what they think, and if they see others agreeing with our info, it will quicken their change in thinking. Soon, we wont have to resort to such tactics because more people will open their eyes.

Links to good FREE (downloadable) email extractor spiders:
http://www.lencom.com/
http://www.webextractor.com/extractor/email.htm)

Please download either email extractor, and go to sites where you think you would get useful lists of emails. Just type in the addy of the site into the spider and you have the emails in your hot little hands in seconds. Cut and paste what is on this page for sample emails, posts, vox nyc nuked article, etc and start firing off emails using the addys you have just extracted. Send the same email to many people at once(ie not just extracted emails): In the “To” box message header, list as many emails addy’s as they allow. There are 160+ pitbulls @hotmail.com
(ie “pitbull1@hotmail.com, pitbull2@hotmail.com,…..pitbull160@hotmail.com”). How many John Hancock’s are at hotmail? 150? How many Brad Stewarts, Or Wongs? Be smart. Include this in the “TO” addy box, separate the addy names with commas and then hit send. In the beginning part of the email, plead with the person to read it, and plead them to forward it to others, even if they don’t agree with it. Tell others like your friends that would be hip to the task/cause, to start forwarding the nycnuked article (http://www.voxnyc.com/archives/00000076.htm ) to all their email friends, or alternative email sources they are able to. Lets start a giant pyramid email scheme. By sending emails 1)By using the spider extractors, 2)my friends email addy’s, logical email addy’s (ex the 160+pitbull at hotmail I know exist etc) I have sent over 1500 of the nycnuked article in the last 24 hours. That number shall multiply. I have also sent other articles and sample emails as well. Go to all the conspiracy sites, NWO, alternative news sites etc, and use your email spider to extract emails. Explain to them in your email about the email pyramid scheme I have just explained here. I’m sure a good percentage of them would be happy to take part. Within a week of constant work that article could be in hundreds of thousands of email accounts or perhaps more (?!?). In sending the email, use a great header and email user name. When sending these emails I have created a fake account name and a snazzy message header…..so when they see the email it says:
From: USA_NEWS@USA.COM,
Subject: IF YOU ARE A PROUD AMERICAN, READ THIS!

These headers would get higher then normal opening percentages. Be creative.

Has anyone tracked a bulk email company that can send millions of emails for less then a hundred bucks? Tell us the info->I’m ready to send money NOW. Lets get the mass emails sent quickly.

Free mailing lists sites to send mass emails to:
http://directory.coollist.com/business/

LISTING OF FORUMS:

NEWS/Politics RELATED FORUMS(Mostly US):
www.nydailynews.com/services/forums
www.nytimes.com/pages/readersopinions/
http://neoteric.webforums.com/worldnationforum/
http://forums.aclu.org/
http://www.nandotimes.com/standing/forums/
http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/community/DailyNews/Community_Index.html#boards
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/forum/boards/
http://dmoz.org/News/Newspapers/Regional/United_States/Massachusetts/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/default.stm
http://groups.msn.com/Browse?CatId=136
http://discussion.canada.com/user/forums.asp?PID=136

[The following News/Politics forums are from the google directory: [http://directory.google.com/Top/Society/Issues/Chats_and_Forums/Politics/United_States/ ]…

http://www.christiansciencemonitor.com/monitortalk/
http://www.politics.com/discussion.html
http://www.debateamerica.org/
http://www.votervoices.com
http://www.gigo-soapbox.org
http://americanliberties.net/start.html
http://www.politicalforums.net
http://www.anyboard.net/gov/pol/USpolitics/forum.html
http://www.fastforbush.com/cgi_bin/ubbcgi/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anticommunistassociation/
http://pub9.ezboard.com/btheindependantvoter
http://www.mbpolitics.com/PoliticsPresidentGeorgeWBush.html
http://gravaman.com
http://www.frozenembryo.com/
http://www.politicscafe.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl
http://www.alliedconservatives.com/ubbcgi/Ultimate.cgi
http://forums.washingtonpost.com/wppolitics
http://pub13.bravenet.com/forum/show.asp?usernum=1114310845&cpv=1
http://www.political-debate.org/./cgi-bin/dcboard.cgi
http://www.mondopolitico.com/discus/messages/68/73.html?998834613

http://www.quorum.org/
http://pub32.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=2709310939
http://www.millennialpolitics.com/cgi/dcforum/dcboard.cgi

Go to these forums and raise holy hell. Lets school them. Ask your friends and other contacts to partake. You might have to register to post, but it’s worth it. Cut, paste and post the samples I have included after this. [OTHERS please post here NEW samples you have created for others to cut and paste in their battles]. If everyone of you registers at one of these forums per day and posts a few of the pre-created posts and or articles and links or even their own ideas, we will surely make a huge difference. Register 2, 3 or more different names….agree with your other handles/user names, and agree with other like minded folks. If you were to go to one forum per day, it would only take 15 minutes of your time max per day. The next day go to a new forum. Go to several forums a day if you have time. Report back your progress, and what forums you are going to be visiting on which days, so others can fight with you if things get hairy.

Email and contact as many people you can and direct them to this thread where we are posting our tactics and rallying the troops. We are powerful in numbers. Lets get to work! Good luck!

Posted by NWOKiller @ 01/08/2003 07:34 AM EST

Sample Posts For emailing, or forum postings: [Posts seperated by "-----"]

-------------------------------
[SAMPLE#1]

Every country has a time in its history where its government becomes rogue and doesn’t act in the people’s best interests. One of the places it takes control of is the media. Unfortunately at this moment, it is our own US government, which has become rogue and they have taken control of the mainstream media as well. The media is reporting and not reporting things that serve the best interests of the people in power presently, and does NOT serve the interests of the people of this ONCE GREAT country. As a result of this, it is essential for all Americans (and non even non Americans) to use certain alternative sources to get a more complete picture of what is really going on. Some of these sources are:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

http://www.libertythink.com/

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/

http://www.libertyforum.org/

http://www.thememoryhole.org/

http://www.americanfreepress.net/

www.voxnyc.com

http://www.antiwar.com/

It may be hard to believe, but WE are being LIED to AND being left in the dark about a great many things that are reported everywhere EXCEPT in OUR mainstream news. It may hard at first to think differently from the majority of people, but it still remains the TRUTH, one that you should NOT be afraid to believe in because you are worried about what SOMEONE might think of you. DO NOT put EGO in front of the truth and the search for justice. Soon, those who don’t know now, will think the same as you. This country WAS GREAT, and its going to be tough, but we can still make it great, we just have to find the truth out, and act for the betterment of humanity.

--------------------------------
[NEXT SAMPLE]

Please read this news piece, it is extremely important that people read it. The US Government has been taken over by a bunch of globalists (people looking to create a new world order and one world government where the power rests in the hands of a few obscenely wealthy individuals). The US mainstream media is under the control of these same people). These groups of people are no longer looking out for the people, and are telling lies and ignoring the truth to further their power. It is essential that many people read this article before it is too late. After reading it, even if you don’t believe what is written in it, I urge you to forward it to others so that they can be enlightened to what is really going on. Thank you very much, and love to all. :)
[Include the Vox NYC Nuked article Hear]

----------------------------------
[NEXT SAMPLE]

You know what, I'm a republican and all, but what this admin is doing right now is a freaking joke and something must be done. I no longer have any faith in BUSH, as he’s the dumbest president to ever be elected and has turned this country into a police state version of Nazi Germany, minus the killing of the jews ;). Our government is despised and mocked throughout the world, and our media outlets have become jokes since Bush has taken office...people are mocking our media. Fox, CNN etc have no story varieties anymore, they just focus on several things and keep on repeating it like the Terrorism crap. If that isn’t a clear case of propaganda I don’t know what is. I think our media has been hijacked after W got elected. I have found out 10X more about what’s going on in the USA by watching/reading out of country sources then from OUR media. I mean our country is reporting none of the things it is doing that are wrong-NOTHING. Its scary, it’s like certain events don’t even exist in our media!!! One despicable thing is the fact that it appears bush allowed 9-11 to happen to justify the afghan pipeline. I mean can anyone sit through this presentation and not think "W" let 9-11 happen?:
http://www.globalhowler.com/911_files/frame.htm
I think I'm moving my family to Canada. Invading Iraq is just going to seal the fate of this country. We attack IRAQ and this country is finished! I want off this ride, my country sucks now.

Posted by NWOKiller @ 01/08/2003 07:50 AM EST

Available spiders...

http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Shareware/Windows/Internet/Email/Extractors/

Posted by e_pluribus_unum @ 01/08/2003 11:47 AM EST

aired 19 months prior.....Feb. 2000
www.metatech.org/lonegunmanpilo-2.wm

Posted by Buk'buk'wala'nuksuwai @ 01/08/2003 12:21 PM EST

scroll 1/2 way down....

Posted by Buk'buk'wala'nuksuwai @ 01/08/2003 12:30 PM EST

rockin' against the machine!!!
http://watchthesky.org

Posted by robert @ 01/09/2003 12:40 AM EST

Way to go America! Now we're talking. Support & greetings from Europe!
I've updated my CIA page with audio interviews with ex-CIA whistleblowers and BBC video reports. This is very rare stuff on the WWW, and it's perfect to convince 9/11-sceptics.
[[[http://lightscion.com/CIA.htm]]]

Posted by flow @ 01/09/2003 04:49 PM EST

Nobody makes a difference. Normal people don't stand a chance against the Nuclear forces of evil and all their brainwashed, brownshirt minions. It's a lost cause... people will be fighting for freedom as long as there's somebody around to oppress them. Just don't be part of the world... AVOID IT.

100 years from now, nobody is gonna give a flying fuck about 911, the same way nobody gives a flying fuck now about Pearl Harbor or the Civil War, or the French Revolution! But think of all the wasted lives. Don't we ever learn? It's all for nothing. People are richer and poorer now than they have ever been.

Civilization is just an endless cycle of shit. We never learn from history, isn't it obvious?

Myself, I plan to move to the desert, or some isoloted place with no people. Don't fuckin' need you, or want you for that matter. Keep all your viruses (like religion) away from me.

fuck WORLDWIDE FEUDALISM.

Posted by Shitface McGee @ 01/09/2003 10:53 PM EST

Does anyone have an email extractor or link that to one that lets you SAVE and EXPORT the gathered emails? Can they put it on kazaa or provide a link if it can be downloaded online. All the ones i have come across(including ones linked on this page) are shareware and have the save function disabled. Thanks it would really save me some time, I've just been typing the addys into my emails manualy...

Posted by NWOKiller @ 01/10/2003 05:08 AM EST

I'm sure by now that most of you know about the Smoak family from N. Carolina who were traveling through Cookeville, TN and were verbally, physically and violently harrassed by the Tennessee Highway Patrol, culminating with the THP shooting and killing this vacationing family's pet dog. If you don't know this story, you can read about it here:

http://www.rense.com/general33/carolina.htm

I urge everyone here to contact the THP and let them know how you feel about this outrage, just as I have done. The email for the Tennesee Highway Patrol is: safety@mail.state.tn.us

By the way, one of these fascist bastards (so-called "Troopers") is named David BUSH! I wonder if it's a relative? Being an asshole must be genetic.

Posted by FascistKiller @ 01/10/2003 10:17 PM EST

Reference to above:

Be sure that the email name for the THP is complete. It must have the "tn.us" at the end.

safety@mail.state.tn.us

Posted by FascistKiller @ 01/10/2003 10:22 PM EST

REPORT:

I'm winning battles for truth on several forums in Europe. Conservative debunkers have tried the ridicule tactic, the 'moon hoax grassy knoll' tactic, even the insulting tactic - but to no avail. Just keep on bombarding them with facts on 9/11, the Bush-BL connection, the Pearl Harbor/Operation Northwoods/Pearl Harbor precedent etc. I found this link to be of great use: http://pilger.carlton.com/print/124759 in convincing the sheep.

This is an international battle for regaining the media. Americans, we're counting on you. Keep screaming it from the rooftops.

Write to media, to journalists, on forums (even the ones that don't deal with politics - this is everyone's business).

peace out,

http://www.lightscion.com

Posted by flow @ 01/11/2003 01:40 PM EST

One tactic I have been experimenting with is the sticker campaign. I printed a load of A4 sheets of small Avery labels and printed a headline 'The Government Is Deceiving You' or something eyecatching, and then a little cool, factual text beneath with a number of relevant, targetted web links. www.voxnyc.com www.propagandamatrix.com
www.rense.com
etc.

Put anything silly, stoopid or offensive on these stickers and people will dismiss them as being written by conspiracy nutters or political radicals. Whereas if you keep the text simple, factual and intelligent - people read with a more open mind.

Then - where to stick em? Well a few critera. (1) where people go a lot,(2) where there is shelter from the weather (3) where people will have the time and the inclination to read them without fear or embarrasment. These factors can mean the difference between a handful of people seeing your stickers in a day or 100's, or even 1000's.

Only when I started going around attaching these little labels to stuff did I realize what a big brother CCTV culture we're living in here in the UK. Anyway, to cut a long story short, I stuck them inside BT (British Telecom) phone boxes, under the rim of postboxes, pub toilets on the back of the cubicle door (plenty of time to read in privacy there!) and my little masterstroke for the ultimate coverage - on the side of the ledge at McDonald's drive thru's. The staff cannot see them unless they actually walk round to where the cars are and even then they might miss them. The point is, a hell of a lot of people drive thru and WILL see them. A real cross section of society too representing all types of income brackets, educational levels and social circles. Only trouble is, McDonalds have cameras everywhere so you got to be real tasty with your slight of hand. Not that it's a terrible crime.

Oh well. I'm doing a little something to spread the word while I work on a more profound masterplan (in progress). In the meantime, at least a few new sleepwalkers will be scratching their heads and wondering what the hell's occuring in their reality.

Keep going, and everyone keep communicating. It's good and important.

Stay cool,
WINGFOOT.

Posted by Wingfoot @ 01/12/2003 12:31 PM EST

vox . . . new to the site and don't have much time to go back and read through to find an answer to this:

is it perhaps a worthwhile cause, in addition to getting the word out to john q. p., to bombard the corporations that stand to lose the most from the oil running out (Microsoft, IBM, Apple, GE, Xerox, etc) with letters to encourage them to start funding alternative energy research, while we still have the oil to power the research? besides perhaps providing a way to sustain the masses, if developments happen quickly, there will be a way for the world over to stop padding duybah's pockets . . . or are the aforementioned already bedfellows with satan?

Posted by murray @ 01/12/2003 05:22 PM EST

vox . . . new to the site and don't have time to research this idea or the connections of those involved . . .

would it perhaps be worthwhile, in addition to the efforts to educate john q. public, to contact those by all possible avenues who stand to lose the most $$$ from the oil running out (ie., Microsoft, GE, IBM, Xerox, etc, etc) to demand that they use some of their corporate and/or personal profits to fund alternative energy research NOW, while we still have the oil to power the research? or are all of these corps already bedfellows with satan and the drive to have them save humanity and stop padding duybah's pockets be more than futile?

Posted by murray @ 01/12/2003 05:29 PM EST

vox . . . new to the site and don't have time to research this idea or the connections of those involved . . .

would it perhaps be worthwhile, in addition to the efforts to educate john q. public, to contact those by all possible avenues who stand to lose the most $$$ from the oil running out (ie., Microsoft, GE, IBM, Xerox, etc, etc) to demand that they use some of their corporate and/or personal profits to fund alternative energy research NOW, while we still have the oil to power the research? or are all of these corps already bedfellows with satan and the drive to have them save humanity and stop padding duybah's pockets be more than futile?

Posted by murray @ 01/12/2003 05:33 PM EST

sorry . . . posted my comment, reloaded the page, and didn't see it posted, so, i went back and did it again. now i see it thrice. oops.

Posted by murray @ 01/12/2003 08:46 PM EST

this kind of information war will not work.. how many average americans read with their coffee, log on in the afternoon, or even watch in the evening... any of these programs, organizations, or radical rift rafter sites. it's impossible to stage a information war without a outlet. you people have a major buffer to a correct plan of action. without propaganda, you cannot sway a country.. and why would you want to sway a country anyways.. because if you do this, your being just like the government that you are trying to oust.. but that isn't wrong is it? sure. you people are the good guys.. did you ever think of putting the facts out and letting the people decide for themselves.. because a forced mass of people will not succeed under their successors. and if your trying to force a mass of people into a "revolution" then your just being like hitler or stalin.. or now the new hitler in your terms, bush jr... because they all came into power under a revolution.. some bigger than others.. hitler with a fascist one and bush with a change in so called leadership, and a chance to clean the white house of scandoulous democrats that demean it's name... still i wish you luck..

Posted by polishmafiose @ 01/12/2003 11:11 PM EST

this kind of information war will not work.. how many average americans read with their coffee, log on in the afternoon, or even watch in the evening... any of these programs, organizations, or radical rift rafter sites. it's impossible to stage a information war without a outlet. you people have a major buffer to a correct plan of action. without propaganda, you cannot sway a country.. and why would you want to sway a country anyways.. because if you do this, your being just like the government that you are trying to oust.. but that isn't wrong is it? sure. you people are the good guys.. did you ever think of putting the facts out and letting the people decide for themselves.. because a forced mass of people will not succeed under their successors. and if your trying to force a mass of people into a "revolution" then your just being like hitler or stalin.. or now the new hitler in your terms, bush jr... because they all came into power under a revolution.. some bigger than others.. hitler with a fascist one and bush with a change in so called leadership, and a chance to clean the white house of scandoulous democrats that demean it's name... still i wish you luck..

Posted by polishmafiose @ 01/12/2003 11:13 PM EST

this kind of information war will not work.. how many average americans read with their coffee, log on in the afternoon, or even watch in the evening... any of these programs, organizations, or radical rift rafter sites. it's impossible to stage a information war without a outlet. you people have a major buffer to a correct plan of action. without propaganda, you cannot sway a country.. and why would you want to sway a country anyways.. because if you do this, your being just like the government that you are trying to oust.. but that isn't wrong is it? sure. you people are the good guys.. did you ever think of putting the facts out and letting the people decide for themselves.. because a forced mass of people will not succeed under their successors. and if your trying to force a mass of people into a "revolution" then your just being like hitler or stalin.. or now the new hitler in your terms, bush jr... because they all came into power under a revolution.. some bigger than others.. hitler with a fascist one and bush with a change in so called leadership, and a chance to clean the white house of scandoulous democrats that demean it's name... still i wish you luck..

Posted by polishmafiose @ 01/12/2003 11:13 PM EST

Dear all,
It must feel weird to be in a very small minority. Most people believe the official version of events on 911. I may or may not agree. I truly don't know. However, I admire you people for the strength of convictions and for standing up for what you truly believe in.
OK, having said that,I have a challenge for you. Is there on among you who in 60 seconds, could convince me either way about the truth of what happened on september 11? I think it would be a good exercise if only to get all your most salient ideas into a convincing nutshell. (This challenge is not just to the conspiratorialists but also to the government agents in these pages.

Pining for the truth, good or bad,

Peace, love, and light,

Baby J.

Posted by Baby J @ 01/13/2003 01:31 AM EST

Baby J:
Probably not. No offense, but if a year and a half of unanswered questions, outright lies, "security lapses," more outright lies, manufactured "evidence," convenient bombings and wars, and more lies - all by the same team that brought you much of the above the last time they were in the White House doesn't convince you ... another 60 seconds probably won't help.

Posted by Shawn Hines @ 01/13/2003 08:10 AM EST

Just wanted to let Vox's readers know that my interview with him will be airing next Monday, January 20 on Democracy Now!

Posted by Amy Goodman @ 01/13/2003 07:19 PM EST

Just a note regarding a message way up there;

The world is *not* running out of fossil fuels. There are so many fossil fuels left in the earth that if we were to burn them all the planet would be completely black. I trust this info because it came directly from a geologist who has worked for Shell for over 40 years.

Ciao

Posted by JB @ 01/14/2003 03:02 AM EST

polishmafiose,
the thing is, WE attack with facts and truth. the truth holds up much longer than a lie. if someone opposes the Bush version of 9/11 they just get supressed in any number of ways, but if someone opposes our version, it really holds up, we arent full of holes.
how dare you say we are no better than bush or hitler? if there is a revolution because of the ideas on these posts and this site, it will come from truth and a desire for freedom, not lies, sneakiness, and murder like the bushes and hitlers of the world.

im not trying to force anyone into a revolution, i just suggest it.
revolution is not bad, unless it is based on deception.
read the Declaration of Independence - that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

i dont think a government that robs from, kills, and lies to its people are acting for our safety and happiness. we cannot alter it for they just try to silence us through fear and vote scamming, so perhaps abolishing it is our only viable option?

-Ozgar Pugnus

Posted by O.P. @ 01/14/2003 09:07 AM EST

I do not like Bush myself, and I agree with your ideas. But, you must think of how a revolution occurs. Their must be a domino effect. The only domino effect that will trigger the average american of today is a economic event. The american thinks with his wallet, and unless you do something terroristic to start this domino effect.. your revolution will fail... but terriostic acts on your part although your intentions might be good are just as worse as governmental terrorism. The "other" americans basically don't care if their government lies to them, because as long as they are living nice lives and have jobs.. everything is gravy for them and they are living the american dream.. no matter how many innocent people get in the way.

Posted by polishmafiose @ 01/14/2003 06:49 PM EST

we dont need to do asnything terroristic. this economy will be crashed anyway, to reduce us all to a peseant state, but the pigs will do it so they get rich in the end. its what they always do.

very few people are aware how badly they are being lied to. if we gang up on anything it should be the media.

if i die id rather die at least trying to be free, not in silence.

but hey your right, ill just accept the slavery and sit down to watch CNN or something.
everything is ok.
everything is safe.
everything is under control.

Posted by O.P. @ 01/15/2003 08:40 AM EST

Hello again vox and community.
I have been becoming more and more emboldened talking to people and sending them articles and so forth. I have come against a tough question and was wondering how to answer it. Maybe you can help. People are interested to know: who is vox? Is vox services an individual or a group? Is there anyway that vox could be an agent of the US government? How does vox get its information? Are you an ex-spook or in-the-know whistleblower like Mike Ruppert? I am losing a credibility battle over this issue to a man who would be a huge asset to the peace/justice movements. So, is it legit to ask for credentials? (For my own part, I use my critical faculties to discern propaganda and planted misinformation. I remember with without prompting the story of Bush 41 and the Hinckleys and I knew on Sep 11th that the terrorist attacks were an inside job) However, I'm sure you can see the dilemma with which I'm faced. so, vox or community, could you please provide some indication as to your identity and credentials. Thanks
jash101

Posted by jash101 @ 01/15/2003 01:02 PM EST

"The world is *not* running out of fossil fuels. There are so many fossil fuels left in the earth that if we were to burn them all the planet would be completely black. I trust this info because it came directly from a geologist who has worked for Shell for over 40 years."

It's probably true, but that doesn't defeat the economic problem of getting it out of the ground and refining it. Wells don't give out because they are completely dry. It's just that the oil that can be extracted in a cost efficient and energy efficient manner is used up.

If it takes the equivalent of a barrel of oil to extract and refine a barrel of oil, you're fucked.

Posted by Selena @ 01/15/2003 01:54 PM EST

do you know why most people don't give a fuck about your crusade.. because it does not fell like oppression..

Posted by polishmafiose @ 01/15/2003 03:22 PM EST

I work within my relatively progressive local community (Chapel Hill, NC), but what I have done individually is purchase "Unprecedented", the video documenting the fraudulent 2000 election and the death of democracy(http://www.gregpalast.com/unprecedented.htm). I will charge a donation to show it in my home, then use that money to buy other videos, such as offered by Michael Rupert (http://www.fromthewilderness.com/). Anyone who knows of other significant videos, please post here.

Posted by Vivian @ 01/15/2003 04:25 PM EST

Try these videos by Alex Jones:

911: The Road to Tyranny

Masters of Terror

http://infowars.com/

Posted by Geronimo Skull @ 01/16/2003 02:44 PM EST

ive recorded an mp3 file in which i speak about 9/111 and the loss of civil liberties and some stuff about the bush nazi connection and the IMF. ive labeled it as a britney spears song. you should see how many people download it from me off kazaa.
heehee

-Ozgar Pugnus

Posted by O.P. @ 01/17/2003 09:50 AM EST

I love the bogus mp3...that's brilliant.

Here's what I plan to do with my bedsheet signs when I get back from the rally in DC: I'm gonna hang them on a Rte 1 overpass so everyone can see them on their Monday commute. I plan to take pictures of the signs while in DC at the rally and then another pic of thier recycled use over the highway from a decent vangtage point. Then I'm gonna send them them to Michael Rivero and ask that he post them on WRH
peace

Posted by jash101 @ 01/17/2003 06:01 PM EST

CALLING FOR AN INTERNATIONAL SICK-OUT :

http://onlinejournal.com/Commentary/Weinstein011603/weinstein011603.html

Posted by Dave @ 01/17/2003 11:13 PM EST

test

Posted by test @ 03/15/2003 06:15 AM EST

It`s 2:00AM,just read entire comments posting. am hitting the streets, encouraging others. e-mailing and telling face to face truth. bless all righteous souls and freedom fighters on these pages.it gives me hope. the young ones are the most powerfull.the excess of evil will crumble one day, i relly believe this. Thanks to vox and true earth citizens.

Posted by Iceman Ed @ 03/18/2003 01:41 AM EST

Hey, i havent got any Victories to report, but i may soon, I would like to direct everyone to Http://www.Itshappening.com and http://www.americanfundimentalist.com Two Forums full of Right-winger types. I try not to be confrontational and trying to to alienate the people, im still working at it, its just so frustrating, sometimes they dont wanna listen and just ignore whati have to say. Theyd rather let Belive what they are told And let "The Man" do their thinking for them. What sorta democracy is that? They call us unpatriotic But wasnt it Thomas jefferson? who said "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" Register on these forums, as far as i can tell american fundimentalist has just been started, so itll be easy to corrupt.

Posted by Pheadrus @ 03/27/2003 09:22 AM EST

OH, OH and lets not forget freerepublic.com But then again gotta wak before you can run :D

Posted by Pheadrus @ 03/27/2003 10:12 AM EST

now i have been listenin to so many people here and there,pros n cons,for and against, and i still can't figure it out.A week ago i was sitting in the emergency room with my baby girl(this kind of thing is why we worry about what the ELITE is up to right) and my wife and i was watchin the tv, with everyone else. WAR COVERAGE like u didn't know. My wife started makin comments about the war and bush, quiet loudly, well louder than what i wanted her to be. All because she has been listenin to me bitch about all this shit. I thank the sad part is that it is to far gone from our grasp. When we try to go against these assholes they are ready for us. You and i both have sit there n heard folks praise everything that the elite do, and they don't even know who r what they are rootin for. At this point we can only pray that the man above will take care of it!!!!!!!!!! P.S. My baby girl is fine........

Posted by baditude @ 03/31/2003 05:32 PM EST

vox! hey buddy if you ever find time to travel come to canada, hey i'll put ya up for a few days.
we don't hate americans just the agendas by the government.
as soon as i get un cheap and get a printer cartsrge i want to print up some of these articles and leave them at bus stops and inside free news papers and be as covert as possible doing it. The CNN/CIA article was a good one and have always thought they were liars i sent that page to alot of people in my address book had one positive feed back on it so far haven't heard from others yet probably because they think i'm a nut case. I knew that Iraq would fight back this time and i feel for the people on the front line that think this is the right thing to do. Look at peter arcete (how you spell his name) says the truth to iraq TV and gets fired but yet gets hired by another media company right away, SO IN YOUR FACE NBC!! they lost peter won hope they feel stupid. Cheers!!

Posted by candian nationlist @ 04/01/2003 02:07 PM EST

Have been hoping Vox would get back up. I have a friend who wants to interview him on the radio about 9-11 and Brzezinski Conquest etc. Contact me to contact the station. Thanks

Posted by Hypatia Popol @ 04/17/2003 07:12 PM EST

Well with all this stuff about the crap thats going on in this world I just want to add another observation that many of us don't seem to cover.Microsoft! They are involved with media lies now their operating systems is a joke to programmers world wide look at how they domminate the computer world. We all have this windows logo on our foreheads. Bill Gates himself has never contributed anything to his own operating systems, very little if any, everything on your windows PC has been either ripped off bought or copied or borrowed from someone elses idea. the tactics microshit uses for their own protection is screeming NWO, snuff out the little guy so that everyone relys on micro$hit. Right now this second i am running a winlinux system because we need windows if you want to use the messenger service wich all my family and friends are on and this way i can comfortably go back and fourth. after having windows and no other operating system on the shelf at the store and you got to shell out hudreds of dollars for something thats out of date. After running this linux type OS i can see that windows sucks ass oh ya and shut up about XP if you want to have microshit spy on you and get on your knees and offer to blow so you can get your over priced operating system up and running and get your ID key code so you can use it then go ahead because you will have problems you will crash you will have to reboot NTFS or not..ya and bill gates didn't write the NT file system either. I can run this linux highbreed here for days and not have a problem i run my windows for one day and something will lock up and i have to download tons of other software from 3rd party sources to make windows runn a third as good as this linux does without any third party apps. Windows is a prime example of mindcontrol using the media to think that they are the best and only ones worth buying and the only one on the store shelf. Well i did go into a store where i found some linux right on the shelf with windows. XP is like 400 bucks windows 98SE is still over 200 and this linux OS that is most likly as good and can do as much as XP and no doubt more relyable was $75. Windo$e has ann NSA backdoor so they can spy on you too their are sites around the web that will tell you how to find it but i doubt if any of us can delte it. sorry wish i had a link. and here is my want add......Wanted: linux programmers to invent a linux system that is secure from government manipulation can run all macromedia flash apps so that voxes web site looks they way it was intended can make micro shit chat rooms think you are running windows and IE 6 and to be affordable to customers easy to install and be allowed to use it on all the computers you own and be able to copy and give to friends...I guess i'm asking a little much but who knows there are tons of open source linux OS out there that allow copying and can run tons of hardware that is for a windo$e...so fuck you bill!!!

Posted by Canadian nationalist @ 04/27/2003 04:15 PM EST

Well with all this stuff about the crap thats going on in this world I just want to add another observation that many of us don't seem to cover.Microsoft! They are involved with media lies now their operating systems is a joke to programmers world wide look at how they domminate the computer world. We all have this windows logo on our foreheads. Bill Gates himself has never contributed anything to his own operating systems, very little if any, everything on your windows PC has been either ripped off bought or copied or borrowed from someone elses idea. the tactics microshit uses for their own protection is screeming NWO, snuff out the little guy so that everyone relys on micro$hit. Right now this second i am running a winlinux system because we need windows if you want to use the messenger service wich all my family and friends are on and this way i can comfortably go back and fourth. after having windows and no other operating system on the shelf at the store and you got to shell out hudreds of dollars for something thats out of date. After running this linux type OS i can see that windows sucks ass oh ya and shut up about XP if you want to have microshit spy on you and get on your knees and offer to blow so you can get your over priced operating system up and running and get your ID key code so you can use it then go ahead because you will have problems you will crash you will have to reboot NTFS or not..ya and bill gates didn't write the NT file system either. I can run this linux highbreed here for days and not have a problem i run my windows for one day and something will lock up and i have to download tons of other software from 3rd party sources to make windows runn a third as good as this linux does without any third party apps. Windows is a prime example of mindcontrol using the media to think that they are the best and only ones worth buying and the only one on the store shelf. Well i did go into a store where i found some linux right on the shelf with windows. XP is like 400 bucks windows 98SE is still over 200 and this linux OS that is most likly as good and can do as much as XP and no doubt more relyable was $75. Windo$e has ann NSA backdoor so they can spy on you too their are sites around the web that will tell you how to find it but i doubt if any of us can delte it. sorry wish i had a link. and here is my want add......Wanted: linux programmers to invent a linux system that is secure from government manipulation can run all macromedia flash apps so that voxes web site looks they way it was intended can make micro shit chat rooms think you are running windows and IE 6 and to be affordable to customers easy to install and be allowed to use it on all the computers you own and be able to copy and give to friends...I guess i'm asking a little much but who knows there are tons of open source linux OS out there that allow copying and can run tons of hardware that is for a windo$e...so fuck you bill!!!

Posted by Canadian nationalist @ 04/27/2003 04:16 PM EST

Well with all this stuff about the crap thats going on in this world I just want to add another observation that many of us don't seem to cover.Microsoft! They are involved with media lies now their operating systems is a joke to programmers world wide look at how they domminate the computer world. We all have this windows logo on our foreheads. Bill Gates himself has never contributed anything to his own operating systems, very little if any, everything on your windows PC has been either ripped off bought or copied or borrowed from someone elses idea. the tactics microshit uses for their own protection is screeming NWO, snuff out the little guy so that everyone relys on micro$hit. Right now this second i am running a winlinux system because we need windows if you want to use the messenger service wich all my family and friends are on and this way i can comfortably go back and fourth. after having windows and no other operating system on the shelf at the store and you got to shell out hudreds of dollars for something thats out of date. After running this linux type OS i can see that windows sucks ass oh ya and shut up about XP if you want to have microshit spy on you and get on your knees and offer to blow so you can get your over priced operating system up and running and get your ID key code so you can use it then go ahead because you will have problems you will crash you will have to reboot NTFS or not..ya and bill gates didn't write the NT file system either. I can run this linux highbreed here for days and not have a problem i run my windows for one day and something will lock up and i have to download tons of other software from 3rd party sources to make windows runn a third as good as this linux does without any third party apps. Windows is a prime example of mindcontrol using the media to think that they are the best and only ones worth buying and the only one on the store shelf. Well i did go into a store where i found some linux right on the shelf with windows. XP is like 400 bucks windows 98SE is still over 200 and this linux OS that is most likly as good and can do as much as XP and no doubt more relyable was $75. Windo$e has ann NSA backdoor so they can spy on you too their are sites around the web that will tell you how to find it but i doubt if any of us can delte it. sorry wish i had a link. and here is my want add......Wanted: linux programmers to invent a linux system that is secure from government manipulation can run all macromedia flash apps so that voxes web site looks they way it was intended can make micro shit chat rooms think you are running windows and IE 6 and to be affordable to customers easy to install and be allowed to use it on all the computers you own and be able to copy and give to friends...I guess i'm asking a little much but who knows there are tons of open source linux OS out there that allow copying and can run tons of hardware that is for a windo$e...so fuck you bill!!!

Posted by Canadian nationalist @ 04/27/2003 04:16 PM EST

Well with all this stuff about the crap thats going on in this world I just want to add another observation that many of us don't seem to cover.Microsoft! They are involved with media lies now their operating systems is a joke to programmers world wide look at how they domminate the computer world. We all have this windows logo on our foreheads. Bill Gates himself has never contributed anything to his own operating systems, very little if any, everything on your windows PC has been either ripped off bought or copied or borrowed from someone elses idea. the tactics microshit uses for their own protection is screeming NWO, snuff out the little guy so that everyone relys on micro$hit. Right now this second i am running a winlinux system because we need windows if you want to use the messenger service wich all my family and friends are on and this way i can comfortably go back and fourth. after having windows and no other operating system on the shelf at the store and you got to shell out hudreds of dollars for something thats out of date. After running this linux type OS i can see that windows sucks ass oh ya and shut up about XP if you want to have microshit spy on you and get on your knees and offer to blow so you can get your over priced operating system up and running and get your ID key code so you can use it then go ahead because you will have problems you will crash you will have to reboot NTFS or not..ya and bill gates didn't write the NT file system either. I can run this linux highbreed here for days and not have a problem i run my windows for one day and something will lock up and i have to download tons of other software from 3rd party sources to make windows runn a third as good as this linux does without any third party apps. Windows is a prime example of mindcontrol using the media to think that they are the best and only ones worth buying and the only one on the store shelf. Well i did go into a store where i found some linux right on the shelf with windows. XP is like 400 bucks windows 98SE is still over 200 and this linux OS that is most likly as good and can do as much as XP and no doubt more relyable was $75. Windo$e has ann NSA backdoor so they can spy on you too their are sites around the web that will tell you how to find it but i doubt if any of us can delte it. sorry wish i had a link. and here is my want add......Wanted: linux programmers to invent a linux system that is secure from government manipulation can run all macromedia flash apps so that voxes web site looks they way it was intended can make micro shit chat rooms think you are running windows and IE 6 and to be affordable to customers easy to install and be allowed to use it on all the computers you own and be able to copy and give to friends...I guess i'm asking a little much but who knows there are tons of open source linux OS out there that allow copying and can run tons of hardware that is for a windo$e...so fuck you bill!!!

Posted by Canadian nationalist @ 04/27/2003 04:23 PM EST

You're a bunch of commie PINKO's! Che wasn't a liberator he was a stupid fuck that help put Castro into power...a dumb misguided son of a bitch at most. He was finance minister in cuba for a very long time until he resigned and look where the cuban economy is today. In fact he is most noted for liberating Argentina....How much do you suppose their currency is worth now??? They're in A bigger depression than the one the U.S faced in the thirties. If anything the thing you silly non-sensical Post-Modern, Secular Humanists hate most is the thing the rest of the world needs most....AMERICAN IMPERIALISM. HAIL BUSH
P.s You're to fucking stupid to know that if you lived in a socialist country you wouldn't even be allowed to protest.

Posted by I killed Che @ 05/03/2003 06:46 PM EST

You're a bunch of commie PINKO's! Che wasn't a liberator he was a stupid fuck that help put Castro into power...a dumb misguided son of a bitch at most. He was finance minister in cuba for a very long time until he resigned and look where the cuban economy is today. In fact he is most noted for liberating Argentina....How much do you suppose their currency is worth now??? They're in A bigger depression than the one the U.S faced in the thirties. If anything the thing you silly non-sensical Post-Modern, Secular Humanists hate most is the thing the rest of the world needs most....AMERICAN IMPERIALISM. HAIL BUSH
P.s You're to fucking stupid to know that if you lived in a socialist country you wouldn't even be allowed to protest.

Posted by I killed Che @ 05/03/2003 06:48 PM EST

You're a bunch of commie PINKO's! Che wasn't a liberator he was a stupid fuck that help put Castro into power...a dumb misguided son of a bitch at most. He was finance minister in cuba for a very long time until he resigned and look where the cuban economy is today. In fact he is most noted for liberating Argentina....How much do you suppose their currency is worth now??? They're in A bigger depression than the one the U.S faced in the thirties. If anything the thing you silly non-sensical Post-Modern, Secular Humanists hate most is the thing the rest of the world needs most....AMERICAN IMPERIALISM. HAIL BUSH
P.s You're to fucking stupid to know that if you lived in a socialist country you wouldn't even be allowed to protest.

Posted by I killed Che @ 05/03/2003 06:52 PM EST

You're a bunch of commie PINKO's! Che wasn't a liberator he was a stupid fuck that help put Castro into power...a dumb misguided son of a bitch at most. He was finance minister in cuba for a very long time until he resigned and look where the cuban economy is today. In fact he is most noted for liberating Argentina....How much do you suppose their currency is worth now??? They're in A bigger depression than the one the U.S faced in the thirties. If anything the thing you silly non-sensical Post-Modern, Secular Humanists hate most is the thing the rest of the world needs most....AMERICAN IMPERIALISM. HAIL BUSH
P.s You're to fucking stupid to know that if you lived in a socialist country you wouldn't even be allowed to protest.

Posted by I killed Che @ 05/03/2003 07:00 PM EST

The idiot who goes by the name "I
Killed Che" is another example of a new phenomenon called Ameri-nazis: people who believe in the infallibility of the state and act in ways consistent with the Nazi mindset, but with one difference...they are too cowardly to put on their brown shirts like real Nazis do. They just hide behind the American flag and perpetuate their treasons against the people and the principles of the Founding Fathers.

Posted by Winston Smith @ 05/06/2003 01:26 PM EST

u all seem to forget there are more che"s here that fought for freedom and u never look in your own back yard. The native americans of turtle island have been fighting for freedom for over 500 years.what about the third world conditions on american soil.Open your eyes to what is going on on reservations all across america GOD BLESS AMERICA

Posted by wounded warrior @ 05/09/2003 10:37 PM EST

u all seem to forget there are more che"s here that fought for freedom and u never look in your own back yard. The native americans of turtle island have been fighting for freedom for over 500 years.what about the third world conditions on american soil.Open your eyes to what is going on on reservations all across america GOD BLESS AMERICA

Posted by wounded warrior @ 05/09/2003 10:38 PM EST

u all seem to forget there are more che"s here that fought for freedom and u never look in your own back yard. The native americans of turtle island have been fighting for freedom for over 500 years.what about the third world conditions on american soil.Open your eyes to what is going on on reservations all across america GOD BLESS AMERICA

Posted by wounded warrior @ 05/09/2003 10:48 PM EST

u all seem to forget there are more che"s here that fought for freedom and u never look in your own back yard. The native americans of turtle island have been fighting for freedom for over 500 years.what about the third world conditions on american soil.Open your eyes to what is going on on reservations all across america GOD BLESS AMERICA

Posted by wounded warrior @ 05/09/2003 10:49 PM EST

educate-yourself.org

Posted by pont-fx @ 07/28/2003 09:43 PM EST

educate-yourself.org

Posted by pont-fx @ 07/28/2003 09:44 PM EST

There are 4 things that the Illuminatti/Bush/Gov et al... what they have is...

No Fear

Patience

True Knowledge

Sovrignty

We can all obtain these things. The great lie is we are trapped. We are able to do many things to escape this lie. Just keep your wits about you. Trust in the you of now.
I lived in NYC for 10 years. Was a 1/4 mile from the WTC on the day it happened. Saw the first plane as it flew in. Since then I have left NYC... I have learned many things over the past few years, the main thing is that YOUR reality is the one you have to deal with. Not other realities, which is a powerful trick they use... Make your reality the one you count on. Soon we are all going to be in the same reality. Cuz you know they are going to mess it all up! No longer will deffrences matter as pain or survival will be the only two games in town. Stay awake and be calm.

I see alotta posts about withdrawing from the "system", good move! Vote with your dollar.

Keep away from anyone who is not willing to work at being free and awake!

Peace
GOM
Kudos VOX! Keep at it.

Posted by ghostofmanhattan @ 10/02/2003 09:47 PM EST

THIS IS WHAT I SEND OUT TO ANYONE WHO SENDS ME PRO-BUSH, 'SAND NIGGER'JOKES, OR PRAY FOR BUSH,ETC EMAILS-

THE PICTURES I DOWNLOADED FROM DAVIDICKE.COM-HE HAS A HUGE HUGE SICKENING AMOUNT OF THE MURDER OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE! I AM SORRY I CAN ONLY SEEM TO PUT THEM IN EMAIL FORMATS, I WOULD LIKE TO POST IT FOR THE AOL WAR MACHINES STUPID CHATS-I WAKE THE STUPID ONES WHO HATE THE SMART ONES UP AS MUCH AS I CAN STAND IT---BUT I HAVE HAD MUCH POSITIVE REACTIONS FROM THIS HEARTFELT LETTER. ANY ONE WHO LOVES ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PLANET BETTER TAKE THE GLOVES OFF AND NOT ALLOW ANY ASSUMPTIONS FROM THE SLEEPING DOLTS-"THIS WAS SENT TO MY FATHER, A VETERAN OF VIETNAM AND KOREA WHO RETORTED THAT BUSH IS STRONGER THAN HIS DAD AND HE ACTED" BECOMING A MORMON HAS CHANGED HIM...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I am not silly enough to forget that,of course, Bush has not done any of these actions himself, remember he was the guy who went AWOL from the guard...a little too bizzy for Vietnam, oh yeah that was Cheney's or Rush's line.
This message to you is from my heart. May my child and I be divinely guided and protected. We fear no man nor his evil for we are divinely guided and protected by God almighty. In Jesus' blessed name.Amen
~~~I INSERTED PICTURE OF ALI THE IRAQI BOY IN THE HOSPITAL WITH THAT HORRIFIED LOOK ON HIS FACE AND HIS ARMS LIBERATED FROM HIS BODY~~ When I first saw this picture of Ali, his face reminded me of my handsome nephew Sam, who looks most like Uncle Bill. The boys are about the same age. I can tell he is, like Sam, a very good and strong boy, wonder if he was a fishing fool like Sam too. That, of course, is not his mother's hand wiping his face. She is dead with the rest of his family. Dead while they slept, his brothers, father, and pregnant mother. 'the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air..." His arms were burnt off, like burnt matches. Truly a miracle he survived...I will never forget him.

~~~INSERTED DEAD IRAQI CHILD WITH HEAD LIBERATED OF SKULL AND BRAINS~~

Now this little one is about my boy's age. I feel this mother's pain, I hope she,too, is dead. My heart would die if this were my kid, it aches with sadness for the suffering.

~~INSERTED PICTURE OF IRAQI CARNAGE SCENE WITH DIGNIFIED GRANDFATHER CARRYING LITTLE DEAD GIRL WITH THE PRETTY PINK SWEATER~~

This was someone's well tended little darlin...Imagine this grandpa living through this nightmare, anyone who thinks of this child as 'collateral damage' or is proud of Bush's 'actions' is one heartless mother effer...One of the many anti-life forces ruling the world. I hope this never happens here, there would be no Grandpa to carry and lay us out so nice and neat. Come drink the water poisoned with perchlorate throughout the defense industry land of CA with your family. Breathe the most polluted air in the country, bring your inhaler...the pollution czar just reduced the standards for industry. Can't let the people or helpless ones interfere with commerce or industry-got to be tough lunged around here. Thanks to our strong family genes we are fine & healthy, but I predict we'll be the last generation that lives a long time. The DU warheads are really toxic to the world.

~~INSERTED PICTURE OF SMALL IRAQI CHILD WITH HER RIGHT EYE SWOLLEN SHUT AND STUPIFIED LOOK ON HER LITTLE FACE~~~
poor baby in shock

~~~INSERTED PHOTO OF SOLDIER AND WAR BOMBINGS IN IRAQ~~~

Please remember, this is the antique cradle of civilization, I have heard that the people in the Middle East wail that they are unfortunate enough to have oil under the ancient land they love.Oh how they have suffered for the few that profit. I always wanted to visit this land of UR and Sumer. The Mesopotamians had an impressive history. Incredible art that survived all this time. oh well-sigh

I hope you dwell on this recent history re-visited, I don't support any of this killing. It is wrong, there are no pluses to this type of behavior, only negatives & it damages all souls who partake.

All who are proud of and identify with this anti-life 'action', please continue to proclaim yourselves, put it on your vehicles, identify yourselves openly-you have taken the mark of the beast-with your own free choice, just like the Bible say...but you will be allowed to buy and sell. The Lord works in mysterious ways. Love to all that love on this world - shun all those who have taken the mark for they hate those who haven't and won't-

Posted by BeyondLeftist @ 12/02/2003 03:03 AM EST

THIS IS WHAT I SEND OUT TO ANYONE WHO SENDS ME PRO-BUSH, 'SAND NIGGER'JOKES, OR PRAY FOR BUSH,ETC EMAILS-

THE PICTURES I DOWNLOADED FROM DAVIDICKE.COM-HE HAS A HUGE HUGE SICKENING AMOUNT OF THE MURDER OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE! I AM SORRY I CAN ONLY SEEM TO PUT THEM IN EMAIL FORMATS, I WOULD LIKE TO POST IT FOR THE AOL WAR MACHINES STUPID CHATS-I WAKE THE STUPID ONES WHO HATE THE SMART ONES UP AS MUCH AS I CAN STAND IT---BUT I HAVE HAD MUCH POSITIVE REACTIONS FROM THIS HEARTFELT LETTER. ANY ONE WHO LOVES ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PLANET BETTER TAKE THE GLOVES OFF AND NOT ALLOW ANY ASSUMPTIONS FROM THE SLEEPING DOLTS-"THIS WAS SENT TO MY FATHER, A VETERAN OF VIETNAM AND KOREA WHO RETORTED THAT BUSH IS STRONGER THAN HIS DAD AND HE ACTED" BECOMING A MORMON HAS CHANGED HIM...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I am not silly enough to forget that,of course, Bush has not done any of these actions himself, remember he was the guy who went AWOL from the guard...a little too bizzy for Vietnam, oh yeah that was Cheney's or Rush's line.
This message to you is from my heart. May my child and I be divinely guided and protected. We fear no man nor his evil for we are divinely guided and protected by God almighty. In Jesus' blessed name.Amen
~~~I INSERTED PICTURE OF ALI THE IRAQI BOY IN THE HOSPITAL WITH THAT HORRIFIED LOOK ON HIS FACE AND HIS ARMS LIBERATED FROM HIS BODY~~ When I first saw this picture of Ali, his face reminded me of my handsome nephew Sam, who looks most like Uncle Bill. The boys are about the same age. I can tell he is, like Sam, a very good and strong boy, wonder if he was a fishing fool like Sam too. That, of course, is not his mother's hand wiping his face. She is dead with the rest of his family. Dead while they slept, his brothers, father, and pregnant mother. 'the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air..." His arms were burnt off, like burnt matches. Truly a miracle he survived...I will never forget him.

~~~INSERTED DEAD IRAQI CHILD WITH HEAD LIBERATED OF SKULL AND BRAINS~~

Now this little one is about my boy's age. I feel this mother's pain, I hope she,too, is dead. My heart would die if this were my kid, it aches with sadness for the suffering.

~~INSERTED PICTURE OF IRAQI CARNAGE SCENE WITH DIGNIFIED GRANDFATHER CARRYING LITTLE DEAD GIRL WITH THE PRETTY PINK SWEATER~~

This was someone's well tended little darlin...Imagine this grandpa living through this nightmare, anyone who thinks of this child as 'collateral damage' or is proud of Bush's 'actions' is one heartless mother effer...One of the many anti-life forces ruling the world. I hope this never happens here, there would be no Grandpa to carry and lay us out so nice and neat. Come drink the water poisoned with perchlorate throughout the defense industry land of CA with your family. Breathe the most polluted air in the country, bring your inhaler...the pollution czar just reduced the standards for industry. Can't let the people or helpless ones interfere with commerce or industry-got to be tough lunged around here. Thanks to our strong family genes we are fine & healthy, but I predict we'll be the last generation that lives a long time. The DU warheads are really toxic to the world.

~~INSERTED PICTURE OF SMALL IRAQI CHILD WITH HER RIGHT EYE SWOLLEN SHUT AND STUPIFIED LOOK ON HER LITTLE FACE~~~
poor baby in shock

~~~INSERTED PHOTO OF SOLDIER AND WAR BOMBINGS IN IRAQ~~~

Please remember, this is the antique cradle of civilization, I have heard that the people in the Middle East wail that they are unfortunate enough to have oil under the ancient land they love.Oh how they have suffered for the few that profit. I always wanted to visit this land of UR and Sumer. The Mesopotamians had an impressive history. Incredible art that survived all this time. oh well-sigh

I hope you dwell on this recent history re-visited, I don't support any of this killing. It is wrong, there are no pluses to this type of behavior, only negatives & it damages all souls who partake.

All who are proud of and identify with this anti-life 'action', please continue to proclaim yourselves, put it on your vehicles, identify yourselves openly-you have taken the mark of the beast-with your own free choice, just like the Bible say...but you will be allowed to buy and sell. The Lord works in mysterious ways. Love to all that love on this world - shun all those who have taken the mark for they hate those who haven't and won't-

Posted by BeyondLeftist @ 12/02/2003 03:09 AM EST

THIS IS WHAT I SEND OUT TO ANYONE WHO SENDS ME PRO-BUSH, 'SAND NIGGER'JOKES, OR PRAY FOR BUSH,ETC EMAILS-

THE PICTURES I DOWNLOADED FROM DAVIDICKE.COM-HE HAS A HUGE HUGE SICKENING AMOUNT OF THE MURDER OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE! I AM SORRY I CAN ONLY SEEM TO PUT THEM IN EMAIL FORMATS, I WOULD LIKE TO POST IT FOR THE AOL WAR MACHINES STUPID CHATS-I WAKE THE STUPID ONES WHO HATE THE SMART ONES UP AS MUCH AS I CAN STAND IT---BUT I HAVE HAD MUCH POSITIVE REACTIONS FROM THIS HEARTFELT LETTER. ANY ONE WHO LOVES ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PLANET BETTER TAKE THE GLOVES OFF AND NOT ALLOW ANY ASSUMPTIONS FROM THE SLEEPING DOLTS-"THIS WAS SENT TO MY FATHER, A VETERAN OF VIETNAM AND KOREA WHO RETORTED THAT BUSH IS STRONGER THAN HIS DAD AND HE ACTED" BECOMING A MORMON HAS CHANGED HIM...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I am not silly enough to forget that,of course, Bush has not done any of these actions himself, remember he was the guy who went AWOL from the guard...a little too bizzy for Vietnam, oh yeah that was Cheney's or Rush's line.
This message to you is from my heart. May my child and I be divinely guided and protected. We fear no man nor his evil for we are divinely guided and protected by God almighty. In Jesus' blessed name.Amen
~~~I INSERTED PICTURE OF ALI THE IRAQI BOY IN THE HOSPITAL WITH THAT HORRIFIED LOOK ON HIS FACE AND HIS ARMS LIBERATED FROM HIS BODY~~ When I first saw this picture of Ali, his face reminded me of my handsome nephew Sam, who looks most like Uncle Bill. The boys are about the same age. I can tell he is, like Sam, a very good and strong boy, wonder if he was a fishing fool like Sam too. That, of course, is not his mother's hand wiping his face. She is dead with the rest of his family. Dead while they slept, his brothers, father, and pregnant mother. 'the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air..." His arms were burnt off, like burnt matches. Truly a miracle he survived...I will never forget him.

~~~INSERTED DEAD IRAQI CHILD WITH HEAD LIBERATED OF SKULL AND BRAINS~~

Now this little one is about my boy's age. I feel this mother's pain, I hope she,too, is dead. My heart would die if this were my kid, it aches with sadness for the suffering.

~~INSERTED PICTURE OF IRAQI CARNAGE SCENE WITH DIGNIFIED GRANDFATHER CARRYING LITTLE DEAD GIRL WITH THE PRETTY PINK SWEATER~~

This was someone's well tended little darlin...Imagine this grandpa living through this nightmare, anyone who thinks of this child as 'collateral damage' or is proud of Bush's 'actions' is one heartless mother effer...One of the many anti-life forces ruling the world. I hope this never happens here, there would be no Grandpa to carry and lay us out so nice and neat. Come drink the water poisoned with perchlorate throughout the defense industry land of CA with your family. Breathe the most polluted air in the country, bring your inhaler...the pollution czar just reduced the standards for industry. Can't let the people or helpless ones interfere with commerce or industry-got to be tough lunged around here. Thanks to our strong family genes we are fine & healthy, but I predict we'll be the last generation that lives a long time. The DU warheads are really toxic to the world.

~~INSERTED PICTURE OF SMALL IRAQI CHILD WITH HER RIGHT EYE SWOLLEN SHUT AND STUPIFIED LOOK ON HER LITTLE FACE~~~
poor baby in shock

~~~INSERTED PHOTO OF SOLDIER AND WAR BOMBINGS IN IRAQ~~~

Please remember, this is the antique cradle of civilization, I have heard that the people in the Middle East wail that they are unfortunate enough to have oil under the ancient land they love.Oh how they have suffered for the few that profit. I always wanted to visit this land of UR and Sumer. The Mesopotamians had an impressive history. Incredible art that survived all this time. oh well-sigh

I hope you dwell on this recent history re-visited, I don't support any of this killing. It is wrong, there are no pluses to this type of behavior, only negatives & it damages all souls who partake.

All who are proud of and identify with this anti-life 'action', please continue to proclaim yourselves, put it on your vehicles, identify yourselves openly-you have taken the mark of the beast-with your own free choice, just like the Bible say...but you will be allowed to buy and sell. The Lord works in mysterious ways. Love to all that love on this world - shun all those who have taken the mark for they hate those who haven't and won't-

Posted by BeyondLeftist @ 12/02/2003 03:12 AM EST

I guess I'll add my comments in here as well to give the FEDS something else to put in their data bases. Why the hell not!?!?! I AM PAYING FOR IT!

I don't agree with the profanity in this site, but I agree with what you are doing - EXPOSING THESE SWINE FOR WHAT THEY TRULY ARE.

Stick THAT up your MaTrIx Eff-Bee-Eye Itiots!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Phil from NJ @ 12/24/2003 09:56 AM EST

I've seen a lot here that speaks of Country. This is a global thing. It is going on everywhere. World wide Freedoms and rights and or privileges are being lost almost daily, as these new laws are implemented. The big hammer has not quite "yet" slammed down. When it does, they will be in full control. If you want to show Christians / people of faith, that you are doing the the right thing, then stop telling them to "get off their knees". By you doing so, you are telling them to stop reading the Bible or being Christian. You should stop saying such things, as you may soon find yourself on your knees and you had better hope you still have time. If the hammer was to come down tomorrow, God's saved will be gone and you'll be one of the many left to face the hammer boys. If you want to tell them something and you want them to trust you, then talk about how they promote the leader and his buddies and they are nothing more the - fake Christian warlords. What they need to understand is simple. Tell them they don't need to support those supposed /fake petrocrazy warlords. Tell the to vote for a lesser party, like one that gets the fewest votes. They believe they are saved and will be delivered out of this mess. If you tell them other wise, they will not trust you. You must let them know that we are on the same side and can be trusted, Christian or not. Think about yourself first and take the first step. You can't save others if can't save yourself. There is nothing remotely Christian about the coming dictatorship. There is only one who can save you and or anyone else and that one is Jesus Christ. I think you can find the way on your own, so I'll move on. What do you do or what did you do, to convince people that there is a problem? Simple - Convince 1 and then 2 work together to convince number 3 and 3 work on 4 and so. Once you have a good sized group, split up into to smaller groups and keep at it and don't ecpect it to happen overnight. People need time to think. Give them space and don't hound them. Get video tape and other material to share
with them and your group and your friends. Nothing is going to be fixed by Politics, atleast not in it's current state. Maybe political parties should be outlawed and only true dependents should be allowed to run for any office, and then only for one 2 year term. If they get corrupted they have only 2 years to create trouble. After which they get the boot. Just a thought? A Democracy
will always fall into a dictatorship. It's the nature of the beast. Look at the USA, it was / is supposed to be a Republic. You must work to show and explain to the people, that these supposed decent people they vote for, ride a pale horse. We must show them how every soul on earth is going to become the property of - a one World dictatorship. This beast that is bearing down on us at light speed, will show no mercy. People think they can fight this thing and defeat it. Well, maybe and maybe not? Information / knowledge is power and getting the word out is power. The many need to be reached and not just the few. World wide that is. All Countries will be in name only. They are to become a chunk of the global enity. The rights and constitions of Countries must go, not by flaw but by design.

Good luck to all!

Manachar

Posted by Manachar in Canada @ 07/01/2004 12:17 AM EST

fuck the fbi and god i hate stan and kyle and kenny because they suck ass :<

Posted by penis @ 07/03/2004 12:46 AM EST

SORRY FOLKS BUT ALL OF YOU ACTING AS WIMPS AND NO GUTS.I SUGGEST EVERYONE GET A COPY OF"THE SECRET WAR OF DESERT STORM" OR CALLED THE HIGHWAY OF DEATH.CHILLING YES!
DISTRIBUTE IT BY SHOWING IT IN PUBLIC-UNIVERSITY OR LOCAL CLUBS.
THIS DOCUMENTARY IS THE GOODS ON AMERICA--MOORE'S PALES TO IT.
185,000 IRAQ CIVILIANS WERE GIVEN TIME TO LEAVE KUWAITE.ONCE THE HIGHWAY WAS FILLED--POWEL SH!T ORDERED ALL BE GUNNED DOWN.MASSIVE GRAVES DUG BY HUNDREDS OF JOHN DEER POWER SHOVELS COULD BE SEEN.
THE PROBLEM WITH MANY OF THE SUGGESTIONS IS THAT NO ONE HAS OR GOT THE BALLS TO KICK-BUT THE REAL ONES CAUSING THE PROBLEM---- ZIONIST JEWS.CALL ME WHAT YOU LIKE SUCKERS. BUT BUSH INVITED 800 JEWISH GRADUATING STUDENTS FROM ISRAEL TO APPLY FOR WASHINGTON JOBS.TIME TO CONFRONT YOUR POLLY- TICK AND ASK WHY AND HOW MUCH THEY GET FROM THE ZIONIST JEWS.
IF YOUR BACK-GROUND IS JEWISH-YOUR APPLICATION IS ALMOST GUARANTEED FOR A GOVERNMENT JOB.TIME TO LIMIT JEWS IN HIGH POSITIONS.BETTER WE RID ISRAEL AND GIVE IT BACK TO PALESTINE. THEN WHAT TO DO WITH THE JEWS?-SEND THEM BACK TO EAST-BLOCK AND RUSSIA.

Posted by george from toronto @ 08/26/2004 07:02 PM EST