Since their last raid on me on Friday 13th 2002, (These Templar wannabes I believe really do get way to "off on" the significance of dates. I believe they really think in terms of the extra intimidation value that comes with a Friday 13th raid. But all the sophomoric attention to their superstitious/pseudo-religious intimidation tactics aside) I believe they are cautious in wanting to give me too much of the spotlight because then people will say, what's all the fuss about, and then more people might read the articles - AND THEY DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. For, if people read the articles, then they finally get the shocking truth about just what kind of people we have in the White House. Now they cannot really stop the proliferation of my work because the bulk of the most incriminating stuff about Bush is already out there and spreading like a virus. They cannot stop it. And if they blatantly seize me and incarcerate me then it just will focus a spotlight on my work AND THE PIGS DON'T WANT THAT. The best they could do is to "accident" me but there again it won't help them much because the damaging Bush family history is out there already and again any premature departure of me might focus a spotlight on my exposes.

I believe this is preventing them from totally bringing the full weight of the "justice" machinery down on me.I That and the fact that the high profile civil rights lawyer Ron Kuby stepped in to represent (rescue) me from the pigs, last winter, and for that I am very grateful. It was simply that the pigs thought that, politically, it was not a good move. I am a white attractive well spoken male. I have some pretty substantial resources at my command and to them they would rather go after easier pickings. Because remember this, these phony New World Order pseudo- religious crusaders don't actually believe in god, they just use god to rip you off and fake you out. In actuality these pigs are nothing but cowards who are looking for easy pickings. The New World Order is about "Easy Pickings" And I am not easy pickings. I have some serious talents and some serious friends and so the pigs have kept their distance.

Even the pigs who are monitoring me keep their distance and in general behave themselves - so far. I have identified persons who I believe are charged with monitoring me. Their physical appearance and demeanor and other indicators, indicate that they are FBI personnel who are monitoring me. I am not sure if the persons are aware that I believe them to be from the agency. I am very sensitive of my surroundings, you could say to the point of a ninja like attention to those around me. I have come a long way through some difficult terrain, people. I am neither accident prone, nor am I some goof. My radar is up when in public and I move fast and cautiously. If there is one hair out of place in my environment I am very much aware of it and on top of it. And people, there are a lot of hairs out of place these days. So I know that they are watching and listening. And so am I. So far the people who I believe to be the agents have not tread too heavily on my sensibilities and one of them actually looks like he might be human, another one looks like a real mean prick. And there are others that I am less sure of. But I keep my eyes peeled and my radar up.

In any event I am a person who is involved in a lot of things with a lot of people so they cannot just take over my identity because there are friends and family and organizations like the Electronic Frontier Foundation, The Center for Constitutional Rights, The Law office of Ron Kuby, and some news websites and maybe an objective comment from the host of Democracy Now, and associates I am involved with who will know in an instance if some "accident" should befall me. None of these people or organizations would sit quietly and let a government agency run my site.

In short, they might try to "accident" me, this much is for certain. But not run the site.

Also, regarding any "accidents" that should "happen" to me. Know this, I DON'T HAVE ACCIDENTS. So if one should happen to me it will not be an accident. Furthermore, I believe it will not be regular agents from CIA or FBI who will perform the accident. It will almost assuredly come from a contract hit man in one of the many government or private contractors for such jobs. I also believe it is more likely to originate not from orders within any of the agencies it will most likely come from a private hit team contracted indirectly by the Bush group. But right now the Bush crime group has enough enemies on their hands that they would like to hit before getting to that persistent vox who keeps the alarms raised about these slippery fucks named the Bushes. No doubt they wish I was dead, but they have now gained so many enemies throughout the world who wish the same of them that they simply have too many people on their list and not enough money to kill them all. Their hands full. But I promise you if they had more time and money there would be a lot more people like me having "accidents" and other premature departures.

Their first goal for the immediate present is to continue to loot as much money from the future of America as they possibly can, to pay for all the killings and election rigging that they need to do before the next election in order to win.

Then after the election it will be time to silence the people like myself who are keeping a history alive that exists no where else and that they would rather you not know about. But it is too late. The cat is already out of the bag. The articles that I wrote on this site are infused permanently in the Internet. Each day, like a virus, more and more sites carry my articles and links to my site. And I encourage all the readers to aid in this multiplication effort. This is my best protection. That these truths get transmitted in EVERY FORUM POSSIBLE. so that people trip over them and wake up to what's happening to them. TAKE THEESE ARTICLES AND POST THEM, PRINT THEM, SHOUT THEM FROM THE ROOFTOPS - anything to transmit them to maximum numbers of people.

And this is why I urge all people out there to learn how to project messages through the Internet. Build informational sites and get the message out to the people whose minds are being obliterated by the TV. Wake them to the hard truth that the TV News is lies and warn them that unless they turn to the Internet for ALL their news, that they will be living in a lie land. Lies Lies Lies. People must turn to the Internet to get the facts about what in the hell is really going on in this world. The main message here is that if you get your information from the scumbags on Television - you're fucked.

I assure you that the whole lot of these pigs do not have the skills (no matter how many psyop courses they've taken) to elliminate me and take over my site and issue articles with my style. They simply do not have the skills. Not a thousand of them nor a million of these pigs could tell you the truth. For they are liars down to the very last molecule of their bodies, for to be following the pigs like this Bush Crime group who are posing as good christians they must trully be liars and thugs at their very core.

No they have not taken over the site, and for the time being they have not taken me out. ALL of the content on this website is 100% legal and I am VERY careful to not play into their hands. I have the nations leading civil rights lawyers and leading civil liberties groups actively interested in my situation and speech. And I am a white male. And believe me, that makes ALL the difference in the world.

But soon after the Bush Crime Group launches their next clandestine terrorist attacks on American citizens I expect that they will then move to silence me once and for all. Absolutely, positively the private Bush military intelligence operations group will launch a strategic pre-election terrorist attack on American citizens. This will occur in the months leading up to the next presidential election. Then they will move to silence me. Because after they kill thousands more Americans they can do whatever they want and there will be no civil rights lawyers on the planet who can defend a free speech issue in an environment where the media will once again line up and declare Bush a god and the population will be cowed into sitting on their fat asses glued to CNN and FOX and having fake concern and mock candlelight vigils for the victims not realizing that it is themselves who are the victims. Democracy and freedom - all victims. When all the peoples attentions will be on the "heroic" deeds of Bush as he surveys the site of the apocalypse there won't even be a channal or transmission medium left for voices of truth, freedom and peace. Except our little forum and a few others.

Bush knows that all he has to do is kill thousands of Americans and, as his prize, the pigs of the media will convince the incredulous sheep that ALL the other sheep unanamously agree that it should be BUSH FOREVER!!!

This is the plan, this is the future, this is the pre-election strategy of the murderous Bush crime family.

voxfux

Viewer Commentary: 101 comments

Grateful you are ok Vox.

"Bush a god and the population will be cowed into sitting on their fat asses glued to CNN and FOX and having fake concern and mock candlelight vigils for the victims not realizing that it is themselves who are the victims. Democracy and freedom - all victims."

You nailed the jingoists precisely.
Blind sheep eagerly going to slaughter.

The Pigs better not touch one hair on your head. You have a large following & we who love truth as much as you would SCREAM TRUTH FROM EVERY CORNER OF THE EARTH... & would not let you be forgotten.
( God Forbid) They think we are an angry mob now? If they mess with you or Micheal, they ain't seen nothin yet. YOU ARE 100% CORRECT- IF THEY DO ANYTHING to try to "ACCIDENT" YOU- THEY WILL DRAW A SPOTLIGHT THAT WOULD UNLEASH COUNTLESS MORE CATS OUT OF BAGS THAN THE BASTARDS COULD HANDLE.
THEY WOULD THINK THEY ARE DROWNING IN EXPOSURE.
THEY DO NOT WANT THAT.
WE OUTNUMBER THEM. PISS ME OFF & I WILL INCREASE MY EFFORTS 110%.
I know I am not alone.

Take care Vox. Glad you are vigilant. Keep safe. And pls do not take offense, that some of us do keep you in our prayers.
( UNLIKE BUSH & Co. we are SINCERE & do not misuse religion like the PIMPS of Tel Aviv & the Whores on the hill.)

Posted by Truth @ 11/06/2003 02:19 PM EST

Even more speculation now.

Posted by JB @ 11/06/2003 02:25 PM EST

were doing our part....

with solidarity Vox.

http://www.sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/11/1657708.php

Posted by CA @ 11/06/2003 02:47 PM EST

Thanks, Vox, I agree with the new order types's being cowardly.

They are "rock spiders". A site like this turns a rock over and exposes them to the light of day.

They run under the next rock to hide until another site turns that rock over and exposes them to the light.

The masses have the power and when the masses have the truth, there will be no more rocks to hide under.

I would think it illegal to suggest defacing US currency, but I would imagine that seeing www.voxfux.com on a bill might encourage the visitor of that bill to visit this site.

I would also remind everyone that although people in law enforcement follow orders, they also follow their own morality and their belief in the constitution.

Posted by sammy @ 11/06/2003 03:57 PM EST

Thanks, Indymedia.

The Matrix card with links to Vox and others is great.

Posted by sammy @ 11/06/2003 04:17 PM EST

I frequent www.libertythink.com regularly and checked out the allegation of it being compromised. It appears to be legit, but decide for yourself.

Raul (http://www.infowars.com) @ 11/05/2003 17:08:

The following quote is taken from the www.voxfux.com message boards by Emanon @ 11/05/2003 04:10 PM EST.

"I know that a CIA Operative has taken over ownership of www.libertythink.com and a host of other conspiracy sites...."

Any comment?

Reply

Total Information (http://libertythink.com/totalinformation) @ 11/05/2003 23:21:
This must be a reference to Mr. Fahey. His bio is surely all over the web, run a search.

Search Result:

Todd Brendan Fahey, a strategic writer stationed in South Korea, has served as aide to Central Intelligence Agency agent Theodore L. "Ted" Humes, Division of Slavic Languages, and to the late-Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) chief Lt. General Daniel O. Graham; to former Arizona Governor Evan Mecham (R-AZ), former Congressman John Conlan (R-AZ) and others. He is author of Wisdom's Maw: The Acid Novel (Far Gone Books, 1996) and "Al Hubbard: The Original Captain Trips" (High Times magazine, 1991), exposes the CIA's MK-Ultra program and its influence on the Sixties' psychedelic counterculture. He is the architect of FriendsOfLiberty.com.

Opinion:

www.libertythink.com is legit (this can be measured by checking the accuracy of the information) and Mr. Fahey is a good, albeit "spooky" guy.

Posted by Raul @ 11/06/2003 05:55 PM EST

"There goes the next president of the united states." Well I looked up to the hanging TV to see what he was talking about I thought he was talking about Kennedy or something. It was George Bush. I went back to the liquor room and came back later on just a couple of minutes later. I stopped to talk to him and Neil is sitting next to him. I asked him "what makes you think that Reagan is not going to run for another term" and John Hinckley said to me well "it has already been arranged in Texas"

http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/institutional_analysis/161942.html

VOX COMMENT ANNOTATION: The story presented in the above link is the biggest piece of amaturish (possibly disinformational) propaganda I have ever seen. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for quality propaganda as long as it is meticulously well argued, but this story has so much that screems out FAKE that I wouldn't for one second believe one sentence of it. Merv Griffen. This piece of shit looks like a typical Rove type damage control psyop designed to drown out the REAL CHILLING DETAILS about Bushes REAL INVOLVEMENT in the attampted assassination of Reagan. This story is F. A. K. E.
vox

Posted by totse @ 11/06/2003 08:01 PM EST

The good news is that we aren't heading to a police state because the bad news is...

http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/
institutional_analysis/167462.html

Posted by totse @ 11/06/2003 08:09 PM EST

vox, do you have any indication
that you are or have ever been
targeted by microwave weapons
or various other kinds of
electronic harassment?

they may not try to accident
you, but their are other things
they can do to mess you up..

Posted by beercat @ 11/06/2003 09:53 PM EST

We certainly are living in interesting times.

What is the difference between a citizens' uprising and an insurrection?

Can civilized people save civilization?

Posted by BraveNewWorldOrderFighter @ 11/06/2003 10:23 PM EST

hi vox,

interesting article....makes a lot of sense. happy that you are ok. i agree that there is so much info already out there about these scumbags that it would look awfully suspicious if something "premature" happened to you. please be careful.

Posted by jhf @ 11/06/2003 10:31 PM EST

dearest vox,

if you care to communicate privately, will you please give me your email address??? i tried your hotmail account with no luck.

Posted by jhf @ 11/06/2003 11:46 PM EST

Glad to see you are okay Vox. Your explanation is reassuring and clears the air.

http://www.techtv.com/conspiracies/shownotes/story/0,24330,3524938,00.html

I came across this series called "Conspiracies" the other day that is being show on TechTV. TechTV is such a "pro" NWO channel. They also have some program called Future Fighting Machines which glorifies human kill technology.

I wasn't aware that the NWO are scrambling to get in front of so much info. The internet is really crushing their matrix of lies. I won't be able to see any episodes since I dumped my digital cable box. Ohh well. Anyone watch yet? Are the episodes a total whitewash? I suppose Oswald is the lone gunman and Flight 800 was a design flaw in the center fuel tank huh?...

Posted by Zepherhills @ 11/06/2003 11:47 PM EST

Hey, there,

Rumors of my "CIA" background are greatly exaggerated (to cop from Twain).

During Evan Mecham's Arizona Governorship (1986-87), I worked in a state agency that was being gutted. Mecham hired Ted Humes, a CIA officer in the early 1950s and two-time Congressional candidate in Pennsylvania, to clean house in that state agency. I was hired by Ted Humes and served as his right-hand man (and we gutted the agency).

Mr. Humes taught me many things. But my paycheck came from the State of Arizona, and I've never been "on the payroll" or signed anything whatsoever with CIA or any other spook-works. I value my Constitutional rights way too much to be that dumb.

Hope that clears things up.

Best,
Todd Brendan Fahey

Posted by Todd Brendan Fahey @ 11/07/2003 12:03 AM EST

You could be right that it's fake, Vox, but I'm not sure how this article helps Bush's cause.

I did a Google search and notice there is a real person with the name Bryan D. Watson in the military (right at bottom of this link).

http://www.afpc.randolph.af.mil/pahistory/release/2001/12/AFIP.htm

Do you have any articles that talk more accurately about Bush's involvement?

By the way, I found your site through articles archived here:

http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/institutional_analysis/index.html

Posted by totse @ 11/07/2003 01:52 AM EST

Ahh...

http://www.voxfux.com/articles(closed)/00000013.htm

Posted by totse @ 11/07/2003 01:54 AM EST

911...

The world thinks Americans are dumb because they can't figure out Bush and co. attacked them.

The problem is that Americans face mental pollution that the rest of the world can't even imagine. How can the rest of the world imagine a Fox news broadcast or coverage of the Rush Limbaugh ditto head cult?

Do they know that instead of the international viewpoints CNN provides globally, Americans watch a "special" dumbed down version that will devote hours to Clinton's sex life, the sniper trial, Lacy Peterson, OJ Simpson or Chandra Levy and nothing to the Bush / Cheney impeachment movement or the anti war protests?

Question: how many minutes does CNN spend covering countries other than the US that we're not at war with? Watch yourself for the answer.

For example, Americans never saw the transcript of the deposition with Larry, the Pentagon janitor.

"I feel guilty about flicking the switch, but I thought it was a light switch. How was I supposed to know it would shut off the automated missile defense system?

I'm not the only one to make a mistake.

Cindy, in secretarial at Norad forgot to pass on the message that we might want to intercept planes off their flight plan.

Even the military screwed up. The secret service was hungover from a party, so they forgot to whisk the president off to safety to make decisions about shooting down wayward planes. It's a bit funny, the Bush buffoon read some childrens' story for twenty minutes after he found out America was at war.

Luckily, I hear that we were set up for damage control - FEMA landed Sept. 10th in New York so they could contain the site. I'm still not sure why they would melt down the steel girders before they could be analysed for evidence of bombs in the building, though.

We probably would have had an idea that an attack was possible, but Gomez in accounting at the NSA erased the videotape of "The Lone Gunman" pilot episode, filmed 18 months before the attack. It was in the lunch room. If he hadn't erased it, they would have seen a remote controlled plane hit the WTC and considered that a possibility.

Juliana, a CIA agent did see the tape before it was erased, but she made a fortune on PUT option trading and no longer works for the company.

Luckily, our law enforcement is unbelievable - they may have took a couple decades to catch the Green River killer, but they were able to post pictures of the 911 hijackers within 48 hours, even though the flight manuscripts show there were no muslims on board.

I wish the same agents were on the case to catch Osama and Saddam - they would have caught them in 48 hours, too.

I still wonder why they don't mention that there was some sort of identity theft and a number of people in those photos turned out to still be alive.

It's too bad they didn't recover the eight indestructable black boxes or footage from any of the security cameras on the route of the planes, but they DID recover that paper passport of the ringleader."

If there is one good thing to come out of this, welders have learned they don't need oxy-acetylene torches and arc welders to work with steel, they can use cheap kerosene and a match. Somehow, the Arabs were able to lower the melting point of the main ton heat sink of interconnected steel girders and beams.

Also, the controlled demolition guys are saving a fortune. They used to spend a year wiring a building with explosives to bring it down. Now they've learned all it takes is a small hydrocarbon fire on one floor and concrete will lose its renowned strength under compression."

The Russians are chanting "Doh" in unison. If only Osama's gang was on their side, they could have brought America to it's knees in a way their billions on weapons never could have.

Give your head a shake people and breath in some fresh free speech and you to will know the truth before the 2004 Diebold election fix.

Posted by sammy @ 11/07/2003 03:46 AM EST

Whats your problem Sammy . Everyone knows that massive 4" thick steel boxed girders running for miles through a building such as the WTC melts at a much lower temperature than that required to ignite a paper passport and that a zillion tons of concrete has no effect on the soundness of the paper fibres.
Otherwise they would start asking questions and maybe even end up storming the White House!
\Furthermore 50% of people are connected to a computer and a large % of these presumeably to the Internet. If there was anything at all suspect about the official story they would know as it would be all over the internet. Even the dumbest of the dumb internet users, you skeptic, can spell 9...1...1.
So don't cast aspersions on the land of the monee, home of the knave.If it wasn't for America most of the rest of the world would be living in ignorance poverty and disease , tyranny and warfare. not the prosperity they now enjoy courtesy of Uncle Bam and Lady Illicity

Posted by charlie @ 11/07/2003 05:13 AM EST

Charlie, you made me laugh out loud.

What the fuck was I thinking?

If somehow people could step out of the CNN/CIA/FOX/BUSH/911 MATRIX, the epiphany is near fucking spiritual.

If you can't turn your TV off, at least mute CNN as you click past it. It wouldn't hurt to boycott their advertisers and make fun of sheeple that watch it. Bumper stickers and t-shirts are good, but please don't write on your currency as that's illegal.

Okay, Iran contra. They export weapons and import drugs. Then they have a war on drugs to keep prices high. Those damn Canadians, what do you mean you're making marijuana legal, prices could plummet. Wait a minute, demand for weapons is low - we need a new civil war in South America.

Anyway, Iran Contra. No, they are heroes - Iran is our friend - wait a minute - they are bastards with weapons of mass destruction, or is it North Korea, Syria, Venezuala, Malaysia, Indonesia, Oceana, boy a lot of countries hate us - and 1984 - and who are we at war against again - oh, ya, the terrorists - but the Russians are our friends - but weren't the Al Quaeda the muhajadeen "freedom fighters" when they battled the Russians - why did their name change? - we were mistaken battling USSR for six decades - someone suicided themselves - send money to Israel. Anyway, it doesn't matter who the enemy is, lend us $89 billion and ... oh where did it go? ... we misplaced it.... Halliburton, never heard of them... don't worry, it didn't come from your taxes, we borrowed it... your great grand kids can worry about it - why is Rumsfeld shaking Saddam's hand in that photo and why did Noriega say he didn't need to run drugs because he was a dicator and had all of Panama's money, but the CIA asked him to and why are we protecting Iraq's oil, but not their power grid?

At least a Bush wasn't involved in IRAN / CONTRA but why is the Bush idiot son, funded by the Bin Ladens who flew out of the US when all flights were grounded after 911 - why did his brother Jeb of Florida and his Dad George senior's judges appoint him the dictator of AmeriKa?

If he was involved in that spooky stuff, that would make us say, "hmmm". Maybe even "woops". Hey, idiot son, we really would choose that you not gut our 200 and some year old constitution with your damn Patriot Act 2 that CNN for some reason never talks about.

"Boo". Okay, you scared us the first time, but that Anthrax is American as was the 911 attack. We get it and won't let you use your "boo" to gut a constitution we hold dear.

What the fuck happened and why do I need to use these military industrial complex sponsored "trust us to count your vote" pieces of Diebold "steal the vote" crap?

Every computer programmer I know suggests we should use a pen, a piece of paper and a local citizen to count the vote.

Just as an accountant wouldn't use two sets of books, programmers wonder why Diebold uses three, why they would use the consumer version of Windows rather than secure Unix, why they would allow remote access DURING ELECTIONS, why they won't let anyone look at code that counts and why they change the code without any government authorization.

Paper and pen is cheaper, it isn't hard to get volunteers to count - what is the reason behind using touch screens unless to steal the election?

Why would Diebold oppose printers when that would mean MORE REVENUE for them.

Posted by sammy @ 11/07/2003 07:25 AM EST

News Release
The Zionist Organization of America
Jacob & Libby Goodman ZOA House Phone: 212-481-1500
4 East 34th St. New York, NY 10016 Fax: 212-481-1515
e-mail: email@zoa.org Web Site: www.zoa.org

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

November 5, 2003 Contact: (212-481-1500)

Urge Bush: Demand
PA to Fight Terror

70 Congressmen Sign ZOA-Initiated Letter To Bush:
"Don't Discuss Further Israeli Concessions"

NEW YORK- Seventy members of the U.S. House of Representatives have signed a letter, initiated by the Zionist Organization of America (ZOA), urging President Bush to stop "discussing further concessions from Israel" and instead insist that the Palestinian Authority take "concrete, decisive action" against terrorists.

The letter was sponsored by U.S. Representatives Joe Wilson (R-South Carolina) and Dennis Cardoza (D-California), and was signed by a total of 49 Republicans and 21 Democrats.

The other signatories include Deputy House Majority Whip Eric Cantor (R-VA); the Ranking Democratic Member of the House International Relations Committee, Tom Lantos (D-CA); and eleven additional members of the House International Relations Committee--Dan Burton (R-IN), Thomas Tancredo (R-CO), William Janklow (R-SD), Robert Wexler (D-FL), Mike Pence (R-IN), Steve Chabot (R-OH), Shelly Berkley (D-NV), Joseph Pitts (R-PA), Gary Ackerman (D-NY), Joseph Crowley (R-NY), and Chris Bell (D-TX).

ZOA National President Morton A. Klein and Ben Lerner of the ZOA's Capitol Hill office said: "These 70 Congressmembers deserve the highest praise for insisting on the vital principle that fighting Palestinian Arab terror is an inseparable part of America's own war on terror. They have sent a clear message to the Bush administration that pressure on Israel for more concessions is wrong, that Palestinian Arab terror should not be rewarded with statehood, and that the Palestinian Authority must be held strictly accountable for its terrorism, incitement, and other violations of the Oslo Accords and Bush Road Map."

Highlights of the letter:

* DON'T PRESSURE ISRAEL FOR CONCESSIONS: "We hope that irrespective of who assumes leadership of the Palestinian Authority, you will, rather than discuss further concessions from Israel, instead continue to insist that the Palestinian Authority abdicate incitement and act forcefully against terrorism."

* FIGHTING PA TERROR IS PART OF AMERICA'S WAR ON TERROR: Insisting on an end to Palestinian Arab terrorism "will not only help ensure the security of our democratic ally Israel, but will also help ensure that the War on Terror maintains its clarity and credibility throughout the world."

* QUREI NOT FIGHTING TERROR: "Ahmed Qurei, who has been hand-picked by Arafat [to replace Abbas] has indicated in recent statements that he also has no intention of confronting terrorist organizations and that he, too, intends to broker yet another clearly artificial "cease-fire" arrangement that would leave the terror networks untouched."

* ISRAEL WANTS PEACE, ARABS MAKE WAR: "Israel has repeatedly sought genuine peace with the Palestinians, only to be answered with unmitigated terrorism and unending incitement."

* THE PA TOLERATES AND SUPPORTS TERROR: Palestinian Arab terrorism against Israel has been "tolerated by or overtly supported by the Palestinian Authority."

* ISOLATING ARAFAT ISN'T ENOUGH: "While the isolation of Arafat is a necessary step...it is not by itself sufficient. Any Palestinian leader that emerges to replace Arafat must be held to the same fundamental standards with respect to terrorism and incitement and must prove himself to be a substantive improvement over Arafat, rather than a mere cosmetic adjustment."

* ABBAS DIDN'T FIGHT TERROR: "Former Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas, in spite of the hope that many of us had placed in him, ultimately failed to meaningfully confront terrorism or end incitement, and refused to even acknowledge Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state."

* NO STATEHOOD IF TERROR CONTINUES: "It is imperative to convey to any current or future leader of the Palestinian Authority that it is unacceptable to allow, encourage, or engage in terrorism and incitement against Israel, and that such behavior will not produce statehood or any other political gains."
http://www.zoa.org/pressrel2003/20031105a.htm
* * *


The Zionist Organization of America, founded in 1897, is the oldest pro-Israel organization in the United States. The ZOA works to strengthen U.S.-Israel relations, educates the American public and Congress about the dangers that Israel faces, and combats anti-Israel bias in the media and on college campuses. Its past presidents have included Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis and Rabbi Dr. Abba Hillel Silver.

--
"The penalty good men pay for indifference
to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.?
Plato

Posted by RONN @ 11/07/2003 09:15 AM EST

since we are all going to die...and quite possibly sooner than later (has anyone heard about the "georgia guidestones", a large granite monument built in rural georgia and paid for by someone named "r. c. christian" (possibly rosicrucian, an antique sect/cult related to freemasonry) that foretells of the human population being reduced to 500 million by 2003...

some conspiracy weirdness sites describe huge underground complexes, one being located under the giza plateau in egypt that is about the size of the state of texas, that house frequency generating machinery that harvests human energy/spirituality/stored memories, and then reincarnates the leftover energy husk into yet another life (or worse):

http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/cmmndx.htm

You have mentioned a machine. It has been destroyed and those that tended it along with it. The ´tunnels of light´ exist no more in fact. This system not only forced ´souls´ back into bodies, it stripped the soul of all worthwhile knowledge and experience and quite callously. The pan-dimensional ´ruling´ creatures fed themselves for hundreds of thousands of years off the entities raped in those ´tunnels´.

That main source of food/energy has been closed down.

These creatures are now attempting to feed off one another.

You can see it in politics from the top down.

Every BODY will benefit greatly from the knowledge that the tunnels of light have been destroyed.

Every BODY remembers it.

Use whatever methods of divination are available, check the statement, ´The tunnels of light have been destoyed´.

The memory of the experience may be used adversely still, and yet, the actuality is no more.
=================================
a lot of near death experiencers mention a tunnel of light affair that appears and draws the post-mortem spirit/soul into its bowels...anyone have any idea of how to best avoid this...where they are going to go after the powers that beast do us in?

sorry if this is off-topic, but considering how we are mostly just fodder to our "owners", i have a sneaking suspicion that if they can recycle our spiritual asses to their benefit, they most definitely will.

found this story about a toddler who survived a drowning, and now has nightmares about "angels" and screams at indoor lights makes me wonder about the near death experiencers who see a tunnel of light, and whether or not it is a post-mortem emf soul harvesting affair:

http://ellisctaylor.homestead.com/miracle.html

The Perth Sunday Times of 19th August 2001 ran a front page article to warm the heart, even that of the most petrified sceptic. Their journalist, Gary Adshead told the story of little Joshua Van De Klashorst and his inspirational triumph over death and scientific certainty.

One wet Sunday afternoon last August while his parents were distracted two year old Joshua had slipped silently into the family´s back-yard swimming pool . Although the pool was surrounded by security fencing the gates had been left propped open from the previous night.

Joshua had been playing happily in the garden with his three elder sisters when a little later Mr Van De Klashorst was moved to look out of the window. He raced to the pool dived in and pulled Joshua out while his wife telephoned for an ambulance. Little Joshua had no pulse. Gently performing CPR on his tiny son Mr Van De Klashorst continued until the paramedics arrived. Speeding to the hospital the paramedics traced a faint pulse but Joshua was still not breathing and his brain was in imminent danger of oxygen starvation.

The hospital emergency team pulled out all the stops in a desperate bid to resuscitate the limp little body but after 40 tense and fruitless minutes little Joshua Van De Klashorst was pronounced dead.

From the hospital, shocked by the overwhelming tragedy the distraught Mrs Van De Klashorst rang her family in Eastern Australia to tell them that her adored little son had died. As Joshua´s bereaved parents sat with the police chaplain discussing painful subjects like the autopsy and organ donation a policeman noticed something. Joshua seemed to be breathing, but they decided that it was just gasses escaping from his body.

Twenty minutes later Joshua´ was showing such insistent signs of life that a doctor and a nurse began working on him again. He was rushed to Princess Margaret Children´s Hospital where - nearly 2 hours after his dad pulled him out of the swimming pool - he was declared alive.

The Sunday Times journalist suggests two scientific possibilities for Joshua´s apparent resurrection but states, "...there has been no concrete explanation given for it."

"Bodies exposed to extremely cold water - less than 5C - have been known to shut down while maintaining a barely detectable pulse.

As the body warms up the organs begin to function.

Another phenomenon occurs when people hit water face first.

Known as a diving reflex, blood rushes to the brain rather than the skin or other organs and feeds the brain oxygen."

All that Joshuas parents know is that their little lad came back from clinical death.

"We were just so happy to have him alive," Mrs Van De Klashorst told Gary Adshead.

Despite medical predictions that Joshua would certainly suffer massive brain damage there appears to be none. Instead of the expected four months hospital treatment he was back home within weeks.

It took quite a few weeks before Joshua could confidently walk again. A year later his left arm is weaker and he says that his joints hurt but he is improving all the time with regular physiotherapy. As he gets older his speech is becoming easier to understand.

"He has terrible nightmares and he talks about angels a lot now," confided his mum.

"When he first came home he pointed to an indoor light and started screaming. He was hysterical. It was the only light in the house he would do that to and we wonder what made him do that?"

Posted by sickuminatus @ 11/07/2003 08:11 PM EST

"branton" about human/alien "force-matrix interchanging" at the dulce underground base:

http://www.title14.com/ufo/dulce/l-depdrk.html

"The studies on Level 4 include human-aura research, as well as all aspects of telepathy, hypnosis, and dreams. Thomas says that they know how to separate the bioplasmic body from the physical body and place an 'alien entity' force-matrix within a human body after removing the 'soul' life-force-matrix of the human. (Or in more simple terms, 'kill' the human being and turn it into a vessel to be used by another entity -- whether alien OR paraphysical -- in order to allow that entity to work and operate in the physical realm. This appears to be a complex high-tech version of the old 'zombie' traditions, IF in fact such horrific applications of occult-technology are taking place within this installation. Incidentally the interlinking underground systems converging below Dulce, NM, have been described ONLY IN PART within this and other related accounts. Those sectors of the underground that are 'forbidden' to most humans and under reptiloid control, are of course those areas that we know the least about. - Branton).

Posted by sickuminatus @ 11/07/2003 09:40 PM EST

It's amazing to be alive in a time like this, and to be able to take a step back from it all and see what's happening.

The human species is completely out of harmony with the natural environment. It's unavoidable that there will be a drastic reduction in the population.

Everything that's happening in the world right now is just a continuation of what's been happening for thousands of years. World War 2 ended only 58 years ago. There are plenty of people still alive who experienced that event personally.

Millions and millions of people were slaughtered needlessly because groups of humans were fighting each other over economic control.

There are still groups fighting each other for that control. When one of them finally wins, that will be

THE NEW WORLD ORDER

If such a thing ever happens, which seems very unlikely.

Already, other power centers are aligning themselves against the USA/UK - China/Japan, Europe/Russia, and the disorganized Muslim world, which is being targeted as the enemy because it is the softest target.

The sad fact is that our nation is in debt to these other powers, and every debt must eventually come due.

As vox so eloquently states, the USA has become a televisual simulation. The reason for the prosperity of our nation is DEFICIT SPENDING. Unfortunately for us, the tap is going to be closed, and the debts are coming due.

The problem is that we have an economy that's built on death and destruction, on decay. The only way to have continuous "economic growth" is to keep killing things, whether it be human beings or the natural environment.

The Earth is running out of things to kill.

From http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/11/07/elec04.prez.bush.south.ap/index.html

The president's trip allowed him to scoop up $1.1 million for his re-election bid at the fund-raising luncheon. Bush's campaign has already pulled in more than $94 million, even though he has no competitor in the Republican primaries.

Posted by Anne Ominous @ 11/07/2003 10:18 PM EST

-Bush Sr. was involved in Iran/Contra
-I heard that the passport found at the WTC story was just an urban legend and the "establishment" never claimed they found it
-thanks for a reponse Mr. Fahey; whatever happened with those magentic pulses you experienced in S. Korea?
-I heard from a local Gandalf-esque man that aliens used the light at the end of the tunnel to capture your soul
-sickuminatus, you should check out the book The Threat written by David Mack(?)
-Vox, since were on the subject, what are your opinions on UFOs, aliens, and the like?

Posted by Raul @ 11/08/2003 04:29 AM EST

http://www.yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=1653&mode=thread&order=0
''Foxes in the henhouse''
Printed on Saturday, November 08, 2003
By Doreen Miller

(YellowTimes.org) – There have been many questions raised over the past few years concerning George Bush's level of competence, or lack thereof. People joke about his numerous linguistic faux pas, with some even pointing to his bastardization of the English language as evidence of his being an ordinary Joe, just like the rest of us. He may appear to be harmless, but the truth is, he is as dumb as a fox, and he and his gang of marauders have taken over and are destroying this country for their own personal ego-trips and profit.

In three short years, the U.S. government has gone from having a budgetary surplus to having the largest deficit in U.S. history that promises to overburden our nation for many generations to come, from being a beacon of hope for the world to being seen as the world's largest rogue nation that perpetrates its own form of willful international terrorism via military violence, from being a free and just nation to becoming more and more akin to a fascist state with fewer and fewer freedoms, greater government spying on its citizens and threats of endless incarceration based upon guilt by association to whatever arbitrarily labeled "terrorist" groups or organizations may be seen as a threat to those in power.

These wolves in sheep's clothing may talk about such nebulous, feel-good concepts as compassionate conservatism, but the only compassion they have shown thus far is towards the wealthy who lavishly support them and their bottom lines. They think nothing of flagrantly flaunting corporate cronyism by awarding political paybacks, most recently in the form of lucrative no-bid contracts in Iraq to the very corporations from which they hail and to which they themselves are financially bound. Such a practice under the watchful eye of a truly independent press would be exposed for the conflict of interests it is.

This administration is in the process of turning back decades of hard-won environmental progress either by failing to allocate the funds necessary to sue polluters, or by weakening or eliminating pollution rules altogether so that their campaign contributors can turn a hefty profit at the expense of the health and safety of the American people.

If it were up to Bush and Co., there would be no public programs of any sort -- everything would be privatized so that the wealthy few could then legally rob the public trust. Total privatization would mean that we the people would lose ultimate control over every facet of our lives -- from education to health care, from Social Security and retirement savings to workplace safety and living wages, from food production and labeling to the oversight of power production and the control of its costs and the access to affordable, clean drinking water. These corporatists would love to see the people reduced once again to serfs and vassals for the new age kings, the wealthy few who own and run these mega-corporations for their own profit. Their mantra of free, unencumbered trade is nothing but a smokescreen offering a free ride to the privileged elite at the expense of the poor, working majority.

Look around you as more and more American jobs, both blue and white collar, are sent overseas to exploit the slave wages and lack of environmental protections and labor laws of developing countries. We ourselves are slowly becoming a third world country, as defined by a tiny group of wealthy elites, many of whom live in gated communities, a large majority of citizens living in or on the margins of poverty, a soaring budget deficit, dysfunctional social programs, and a crumbling infrastructure.

These thieves think nothing of devouring one of their own if they feel they have been slighted, thus their unapologetic, not to mention highly unethical and unlawful, exposé of the identity of a CIA undercover agent whose husband was an outspoken critic of the administration's blatant misuse of bogus intelligence in its attempt to sell the Iraq war to the public. Columnist Robert Novak claims that it was not one, but "two senior administrative officials" who were eager to blow this woman's cover. Considering her crucial role in uncovering illegal sales and transfers of weapons of mass destruction around the world, one must question just how serious the claims are that this administration makes about combating terrorism and halting the spread of such destructive weapons.

If Bush were Clinton, Congress would have begun impeachment proceedings against him long ago. Clinton's lie about his affair with Monica ultimately hurt no one but himself and his family. Bush's lies about Iraq have cost us the precious lives of hundreds of American soldiers and thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians, with no end to the costs of the current quagmire in sight in terms of both money and lives. If that's not grounds for impeachment, I don't know what is.

The truth is, our spineless Congress is a large part of the problem by aiding and abetting Bush in his escapades and giving him virtually everything he asks for. If Bush and Co. are allowed to continue on their rampage, there will be nothing left but a trail of hardship and destruction as far and as wide as the eye can see. It seems everything this current administration undertakes turns into a major fiasco.

The foxes are devouring everything we hold dear in this henhouse of ours. When are the American people finally going to wake up and drive these destructive egomaniacs from power?

[Doreen Miller lived, studied, worked and traveled abroad for several years, and is currently a Senior Lecturer and educator of international students. She dedicates part of her time to serving the elderly and Alzheimer patients. Mother, musician and poet, she pursues an avid interest in Buddhist and Eastern philosophy. She advocates human rights, social justice, fair trade, and environmental protection. Doreen lives in the United States.]

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Posted by RONN @ 11/08/2003 11:38 AM EST

Raul, CNN claimed two passports were found.

1. CNN claims they found this passport in the plane wreckage:

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/01/cia.hijacker/

2. And another one in the WTC wreckage.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/gen.america.under.attack/

Of course these passport claims are hoaxes - the government is lying to you - but than shouldn't Police Commissionar Bernard Kerik be called to task for this lie?

We know that 7 or 8 terrorists were victims of identity theft:

http://www.unansweredquestions.net/background_61.php

There was no Arab DNA in the wreckage:

http://www.sierratimes.com/03/07/02/article_tro.htm

And no Arab names on the flight Manifests:

http://www.rense.com/general21/pass.htm

Hmm...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3
858,4376858-103680,00.html

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=14873

Like, I said, give your head a shake - factions of the US government are complicit on attacks on the American people. The benefit is a gutting of the constitution (Patriot Act II, what happened to the Sunset clause) and imperialistic wars of conquest abroad.

Posted by sammy @ 11/08/2003 11:47 AM EST

Raul. Leave the CIA or whatever other pay master you belong to and and get a life.Establishment damage control is no longer an option.

Posted by charlie @ 11/08/2003 03:15 PM EST

I was probably a bit harsh. I take it back. But the world really is up against it and you've got to be fighting all the time or they win.

Posted by charlie @ 11/08/2003 03:43 PM EST

The next government will be us running the show from home over the internet...just as this site allows us to speak our opinions.

The job of the government is to teach all how to self-govern...

You cannot stop intelligent investigation forever, especially with the internet for all to communicate...

Check out Microsoft sueing for the Blaster worm??? The US Grid was brought down by this nasty virus crashing the pc's that monitor the power grid network.

ALL PEOPLE DEPENDEND ON THE UTILITY POWER GRIDS ARE VUNERABLE.

Posted by POWER GRIDS @ 11/08/2003 06:25 PM EST

they can kill the internet if
they need to..

just blame it on terrorist hackers

also, think about all these recent
black-outs--US/Canada, Italy, Sweden
czech republic..

all within a month or so..

looks to be about as much of a
coincidence as the surge of
dead microbiologists a year or two
back..

they are preparing for something..

Posted by beercat @ 11/08/2003 07:17 PM EST

-Add Denmark (that was the major area of the blackout that affected Sweden too)and Georgia to that list beercat. All under two months. All countries were members of the coaliton of the willing.

-sammy, thanks for pointing that out; I stand corrected; I "gave my head a shake" a while ago, and take no exception to your statement;I simply thought that particular detail (the passports being found) was never claimed

-charlie, definitley a bit too harsh, I was simply saying that I heard that story wasn't true, I didn't say that it wasn't true; I wasn't attempting any sort of damage control; I don't work for the C.I.A. and am not in the employ of any other agency (though I could certainly use a "paymaster" or two); I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments that we need to be fighting all time; with that in mind, I think it would be prudent to not rush to judgement of someone and accuse them of being a disinfo agent; we're going to need to work together to effect any real resistance; that said, we're cool--no hard feelings

Posted by Raul @ 11/08/2003 08:21 PM EST

What a strange coincidence this is, huh, sickuminatus?

California toddler, 'dead,' comes back

ANAHEIM, Calif., Nov. 8 2003 (UPI) -- Doctors Saturday were monitoring a California toddler who began breathing 40 minutes after she was officially pronounced dead.

A detective was in a room with 20-month-old drowning victim Mackayala Jespersen at Anaheim Memorial Hospital Friday when he noticed the girl trying to breathe, The Los Angeles Times reported Saturday. The detective summoned doctors, who then resuscitated her.

Mackayala's mother left the girl and her twin sister unattended for about 10 minutes Friday while she cared for their 4-year-old sister, police said.

When she returned to the living room the sliding screen door was ajar and Mackayala was missing.

The mother found her baby floating face down in the backyard pool. Officers who arrived within two minutes said the little girl was not breathing. Despite efforts of emergency room staff, doctors finally declared her dead.

It was nearly two hours after her mother discovered her in the pool before she took her next breath, officials said.

http://interestalert.com/brand/siteia.shtml?Story=st/sn/11080000aaa017cc.upi&Sys=rmmiller&Fid=NATIONAL&Type=News&Filter=National%20News

Posted by Raul @ 11/08/2003 08:27 PM EST

Re: Power grids going down

Check out project H.A.A.R.P. in Alaska.

Re: Internet going down

As long as computers can be networked together, it will stay up. For example, if your ISP cuts off your internet service, you only have to find another internet computer (local business, university, etc.) and use your modem to connect to them.

Right now, traffic goes through backbones which can be choke points, but the internet was designed by the military (Arpanet) to survive sustained attacks.

There is no central server - as long as part of the network exists, it will reroute to take advantage of that.

Re: Internet censorship

They will just drive hackers to develop new technologies which hide the IP's of the web host and people accessing it.

Posted by sammy @ 11/09/2003 11:51 AM EST

"has anyone heard about the "georgia guidestones", a large granite monument built in rural georgia and paid for by someone named "r. c. christian" (possibly rosicrucian, an antique sect/cult related to freemasonry) that foretells of the human population being reduced to 500 million by 2003..."

I've actually visited the guidestones. They aren't prophecy. "R. C. Christian" is the pseudonym of the anonymous philanthropist that erected them, who seems to have decided that civilization is doomed to self-destruct. The guidestones are merely an intelligent set of instructions for those who will crawl from the wreckage, a blueprint for a SANE society. One of the principles set forth is that global population should be constrained to no more than 500,000,000 people. Seems like plenty to me.

the guidestones are a few miles north of Elberton, GA, a butt-ugly little town that just happens to have lots of granite quarries (the material of the 20-ton blocks that make up the guidestones). Most of the people in this area are severely ignorant bible-belt types, who think "R. C. Christian" is a satanist or some such drivel. It's hardly surprising that so much nonsense has been circulated about them.

Posted by Odysseus @ 11/10/2003 05:29 AM EST

Vox my dear fellow noble brother warrior; you are a living example, and inspiration to Earth Humanity as a whole.
You have the unanimous support; protection, and resources of myself: together with a UNIVERSAL ARMY of TRUTHSEEKERS-TRUTHBRINGERS at your ready disposal: therefore if THE AHRIMANIC FORCES (in the material guise of the CRIMINAL CARTEL currently ruling here on earth!) try anything untoward on you, then they will have US to ANSWER TO!!!
By all means do keep doing what you are doing, and saying what you are saying - in your unique inimitable way, for the more noise you make; the more ordinary SLUMBERING folk will become STIRRED AWAKE, and by the very IMPLICATION of their REDISCOVERED REALIZATION: emboldened into Pragmatic ACTION.

Posted by Mother Of The World @ 11/10/2003 07:53 AM EST

This confirms his raid as happening.

http://lists.gp-us.org/pipermail/texgreen/2003-February/001092.html

Posted by InfoSearch @ 11/10/2003 01:12 PM EST

The New Hampshire Gazette

National News

"Bush-Nazi Dealings Continue Until 1951"-Federal Documents

By John Buchanan And Stacy Michael

http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=NN_Bush_Nazi_2

Posted by Johnny Yuma @ 11/10/2003 06:50 PM EST

I don't watch TV anymore. I havent for a couple of years. OK, I admit it. Simpsons!!! That's all.
So, I visit a friend's house and we sit around and chat, whatever. Of course the TV will be on. My friend's portal to the world? CNN. This is what people watch. So, I ask my friend about what he thinks about 9-11, the Iraqi occupation, etc......He thinks that Bush was just minding his own business and then lo and behold, these "FUCKING AYE-RAB" terrorists pull the crime of the century. This guy gets pissed off at me if I even suggest....SUGGEST...that there's a lot more to this than we're meant to know and that Bush and his handlers masterminded the whole thing. I speak on and try to bring to light some of the evidence and facts that are crucial and largely ignored. Unfortunately, my friend is a "Christian". See, it's strike two. Strike one is watching CNN and then using that information to shape your world view. Strike 2 is almost worse than strike one. All Bush has to do is keep spewing his "God" bullshit. You know, how he prays and stuff, asks Jesus for help and guidance, listens to God when God tells him which Evil-doing nation to attack next, etc etc. He knows that most, if not all, of these warped christian-zealot-bigot-warpig-closet crossdressers will be on his side without having to do any thinking for themselves.

It's so completely insane. I just can't help but get supremely pissed at people like this and say "ALRIGHT FINE! You morons won't wake up then BURN*BABY*BURN" When will people finally see what's going on? Look at California. You've got democratically elected Governor ie. Gray Davis. A rich Republican has enough money and pull to get him recalled and then you get Arnold in there as governor? FUCK. If people think Shrub is a puppet of fascist handlers, wait til Arnie starts doing the bidding of big business and the Bush junta. Maybe I'm being too hard on the guy tho', to his credit, Arnie likes group sex with complete strangers and he also likes some of Hitler's fiscal sensibilities.

Well, that was the long way to get to my point, which is this.
How obvious and pathetic does the Bush government's desire for foreign and domestic domination have to get before people clue in?

Posted by GREATWHITE @ 11/10/2003 08:32 PM EST

"You can fool some of the people all the time and that's who you should concentrate on"

Posted by sammy @ 11/10/2003 09:11 PM EST

Just a comment: By any reasoning beings estimation the BUSH CRIME GANG
are digging the biggest pit for them-
selves that has been dug since HITLER. Remember that Hitler was
low-born Austrian with the initials
A.S. (Adolph Shickelgruber) and that
there is another one running California right now. A.S. (Arnold
Schwarzenegger.)
Hitler promised the Germans a 1000
year empire. They followed. In less than 10 years Germany was
destroyed. History is repeating
itself. Don't go down with them.
Fight them with everything you
have.

Posted by Angry & Prepared @ 11/10/2003 11:15 PM EST

Greatwhite I understand your frustration. Many of us who have tried to warn our friends and family about the New World Order, have experienced the same reaction your friend had. The NWO has subtley programmed the population with Hollywood movies and TV to react in a negative way when people suggest a conspiracy of some kind.

Look at the movie "Conspiracy Theory" with Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts. Mel plays this kooky (whack job) reclusive conspiracy theorist who looks like he needs to be on Valium (very nervous and fidgety), has booby traps in his apartment, and has multiple locks on his door because he thinks people are out to get him. That "image" is what the NWO has programmed "Joe Six Pack" to accept about people who speak of a conspiracy.

Then look at the opposite end of the spectrum such as Tom Brokaw. Tom is a very handsome older man with a deep voice who speaks the (so called) truth on the nightly news. Tom beams in via cable TV to every household in the United States. Tom certainly doesn't look like the type who needs to take a few Prozac before his nightly news broadcast. He doesn't look like the type to lie and manipulate middle America. But the ironic fact is, Tom Brokaw is a fucking pathetic liar. Just as Connie Chung, Peter Jennings, Dan Rather and Wolf Blitzer. THEY ARE ALL SELLOUTS to the NWO. The NWO is using psychological warfare on the entire population.

The best thing to do is move on to people you don't know. Many of us have friends who we refer to as "furniture". Furniture because you might as well be talking to the sofa since it has the same effect-- no response. Use the internet and post to messageboards which have nothing to do with the NWO--like a messageboard about computers or politics.

Use this link and post it everywhere:

http://911.mazesoftware.com/

Print these Matrix cards out and post them on car windshields, or pass them out anywhere you can:

http://www.sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/11/1657708.php

Make copies of Alex Jones tapes available here:

http://www.store.yahoo.com/infowars-shop/videos.html

"911 The Road to Tyranny" is probably the best to make copies of. Alex Jones allows you to make as many copies of his tapes as you want. Pass them out at chruch or some other social gathering. Your friend might even wake up after he has seen 911 The Road to Tyranny.

Print out a copy of the Operation Northwoods and show it to people:

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf

Show them page 10 where it says "It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner enroute from the United States..." (Operation Northwoods pg. 10)

Posted by Zepherhills @ 11/10/2003 11:22 PM EST

mother of the earth, i dont mean to sound harsh or insult you, but get real, this warrior talk means nothing, the only power people have is to inform themselves and others, the laws and regulations of a given country like say america are such that you have to color within the lines always or your facing years in jail, this isnt some star wars "us against the empire" bullshit YET. Maybe when enough people are informed say about 80 percent, then that might work. But now that kinda talk is dangerous, cus even if people are stupid enough to "arm" themselves and try and start some revolution, were talking rifles and hund guns against THE MILLITARY, owned by the government. So if they kill vox, what will you and all "the warriors" with your cloke and daggers do? NOTHING, i am just trying to put some sanity into this board, yes its bad, its fucking horrible what the swines are doing around the world, but talking logical goes way more, then to go into some dark basement and start firing the oven, and creating the sword that will save humanity.

Posted by peoplelikeNEDflandersEXIST @ 11/11/2003 04:41 AM EST

I like that last handle Ned F.!

I agree with Mother of the Earth on mind share. It comes down to what the military and spooks believe. If they start to side with the constitution, then the tide has turned.

I agree with you that it doesn't take much to silence a lone dissident, specially now that the Patriot Act II and control of the judiciary has gutted our rights.

Posted by simpsonsfan @ 11/11/2003 09:59 AM EST

Hey, this is pretty damn inspiring! Check this out. And it's on MSNBC to boot!!! Who is this guy? Anybody know? Not just another Power Pirate trying to get rid of Bush so he can play god I hope.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/991865.asp?vts=111120031447&cp1=1

Posted by GREATWHITE @ 11/11/2003 05:58 PM EST

Talk of taking arms is very dangerous. My brother was promoting this in my area and he got into his vehicle and turned the key and boom . Luckily he survived the blast but you should see what happened to the his vehicle. The explosion came from the dash not the gas tank, and blew out all the windows and the back hatch. No sence reporting this to the police since they are the prime suspects. This just happened on November 10, 2003. This is the state that gorden was telling people the same thing before he was taken out by the fed hired police. by gordon i meen Gordon Kahl that is all i have to say just be carefull.

Posted by revenger @ 11/11/2003 07:35 PM EST

I'm on your side but talk about living in a vaccum!

"Hey, this is pretty damn inspiring! Check this out. And it's on MSNBC to boot!!! Who is this guy? Anybody know?"

Posted by InfoSearch @ 11/11/2003 08:16 PM EST

GREATWHITE;

Get a life!!!

Posted by InfoSearch @ 11/11/2003 08:20 PM EST

Hey infosearch. Thanks for insulting me. Nice. Helps alot. You made my week. Make you feel good?

Posted by GREATWHITE @ 11/11/2003 08:43 PM EST

Interesting article:

http://www.enterprisemission.com/NukingJupiter.html

Posted by charlie @ 11/12/2003 03:08 AM EST

The situation is the elites are trying to get their NWO, using Bush, and beleiving that they can prevent the coming cosmic apocalypse, the freedom fighters and revolutionists are fighting the system and soon will be using the same terror tactics as our governments, both sides are escalating, more terror with a dirty bomb, and smallpox plague, soon there will be a nuclear holocaust, almost global war, and then several asteroids will destroy most everything on our planet. One side is trying to control and save humanity, the other side is trying to be free and is unaware of the imminent total loss, it's funny how the Matrix Revolutions is trying to show the exact same thing I just said, With Neo and Smith rejoing and becomeing one, and resetting everything. being alive now is the most fun ever

Posted by inevitable @ 11/12/2003 08:38 AM EST

GREATWHITE

Very sorry! I was popped on alcohol!

Afterwards I regretted it.

I only knew his name through investments sites.

Otherwise, I wounldn't have known about him either.

Sorry for being a "wise ass".

It's one of my worst character traits, I'm working on growing up.

Posted by InfoSearch @ 11/12/2003 10:05 AM EST

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=13740&mode=nested&order=0

Posted by InfoSearch @ 11/12/2003 10:43 AM EST

One Thousand Reasons

Relentlessly Documenting The Failures Of The Bush Administration

http://thousandreasons.org

Posted by Johnny Yuma @ 11/12/2003 01:59 PM EST

Greatwhite,

I'm glad Soros is giving money to MoveOn.org (an organization everyone here should join by the way), but I believe he is another power-hungry individual (just not as bad as Busch). He was also behind the recent (and unfortunately failed) attempt to legalize medical marijuana (which Kucinich supports by the way). In the article he doesn't mention that he supports Kucinich (the only real progressive candidate).

Posted by Raul @ 11/12/2003 08:13 PM EST

I just received a letter/movie in the mail from the army about the army appreciating military family's sacrifices (my brother is a reservist). He hasn't been called up as of yet, but if he is, as pissed as I am now about things, it will truly be on at that point.

Posted by Raul @ 11/12/2003 08:17 PM EST

Hey Raul. I had heard, perhaps from an Alex Jones clip, that the Bush government is considering a return to the draft. I can't be sure where I got this from, but I think that if a draft were imposed, people would be forced to take a good look at what this war is all about. As I mentioned in my previous post, I'm not sure if Soros is basically just another Bush-type that wants more of the pie as well. Infosearch's reaction to my post caused me to do some research for myself and I'm glad I did. Now I know a little more about Mr. Soros.
I hope your brother doesn't have to go to Iraq. If EVERY soldier over there suddenly said "fuck this" and revolted entirely, went AWOL, Bush would be done, you know. Just imagine. The whole fighting force says no way. I aint dying for Bush's lies and deception. It would change the course of history.

Posted by GREATWHITE @ 11/12/2003 09:12 PM EST

http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=6162

It's not what I had read, but close to it.

Posted by GREATWHITE @ 11/12/2003 10:46 PM EST

There are lots of Americans up in Canada that dodged the draft so they wouldn't have to go to Vietnam.

That probably contributed to the end of the Vietnam war.

Sometimes people forget that they have free will. Neuremberg established that following orders is not an excuse for atrocity. It's certainly not an excuse to invade a sovereign nation and to kill the people that live there.

Will your brother go if he is called to go to Iraq? If so, why?

Posted by draft @ 11/12/2003 10:53 PM EST

As others in this forum have said, the masses have the power. If you are in the military and are just following orders, to who's ends do you serve? Why?

What's in it for you?

A link from

http://whatreallyhappened.com:

http://www.hermes-press.com/domplot.htm

The most powerful thing you can do to preserve the American republic is to spread the word.

I came across this site's URL and a few others scrawled on money in my wallet.

Some have seen the links in graffiti on walls.

Others have heard the links mentioned in radio call in shows.

You get the idea...

And whatever you do, please make fun of the bozo's that still watch CNN. That crap is mental pollution.

Posted by draft @ 11/12/2003 11:28 PM EST

Raul,

I surely did experience some kind of electro-magnetic pulse-generated phenomenon while in South Korea (around March 2000).

One of the weirdest occurences of my (strange) life.

As I've written on NewWorldDisorder blog, I was literally catapulted from my bed one night and "dragged" into the livingroom and toward the front balcony (sliding-glass door). I had a long, painful scratch on my inner bicep (caused, I presume, by falling out of bed...but I could find no blood on any portion of my bed...just a real deep scratch on my arm).

I felt as if I were a magnet, and was being dragged toward the open balcony door. Car alarms were going off all over the apartment complex, and the elevators were also non-functional (I tried to get down the elevator, but the doors would not open). Dogs were barking everywhere.

I forced myself to sit down in the middle of the livingroom, as I was afraid that I'd be impelled to leap out of my balcony window.

Wuz conscious that I was "out of my mind," but still had enough internal cognition to preserve my life.

After a LOT of effort, deep-breathing, etc., I phoned the Korean operator and had her hook me into the U.S. State Department. I knew this would be logged and, could possibly brand me as a nut. But faced with the possibility that some NSA-op were being perforced in South Korea, I didn't give a shit. I spoke to one "Douglas Connor" and relayed the entire experience. I was calm and composed, and he seemed to take my situation seriously. I asked him if there were any sort of SAT-INT venture being performed over Young-ju, Kyungsanbuk-do, Korea, and he replied that he would not have access to any such information, but would note my question.

The key issues here were/are a major scratch on my left-arm bicep (seemingly out of nowhere). The fact that I went from a dead-sleep to being bolt-upright and then dragged 20-meters through two different rooms; was (or felt) compelled to "investigate" the nature of gravity, in possibly jumping out a window. AND (most potently) that the elevators, car alarms and dogs barking were testaments to the fact that I wasn't just having a "bad dream."

I've never experienced this kind of event, before or since.

As an aside, this was in the middle of my launching http://www.dumpmccain.com and spreading vigorous word as to John McCain's Vietnam-era treason (which summarily saw me banned at FreeRepublic.com).

Nothing like this has happened since. & if I felt as if I were/am in error about the occurrences, I wouldn't be responding to your question. But it sure has hell happened that night.

Best,
TBF

Posted by Todd Brendan Fahey @ 11/13/2003 12:31 PM EST

Im with you Vox.
And know that if you have an "Accident", then so will That bastard.Its time for Revolution, and im currently organizing as many people as possible to spread the word of truth.

Posted by Chapel @ 11/13/2003 02:39 PM EST

Hopefully it's okay to put a link here just this once..

Billionaire Soros wants Bush out and I find this encouraging!

Pat

P.S. Here's the link:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/991865.asp?0cv=CB10

Posted by Patrick @ 11/13/2003 03:04 PM EST

This one made me wonder...reality or massive disinfo campaign.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/991555.asp?vts=111320031347&cp1=1

Posted by GREATWHITE @ 11/13/2003 04:58 PM EST

Feeling Jung Again: KGB Weaponizes the Collective Unconscious

http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/041903.htm

Unfortunately the FCC (old KGB) in Russia has weaponized much of this approach, and several other nations also are either weaponizing it or starting to do so.

One of the "weaponization" goals -- apparently still in the future --- is to be able to directly engineer Jung´s collective unconscious. In theory, mind operations and even personalities, memories, etc. can be directly engineered and processed electromagnetically, if the proper higher group symmetry EM is used.

The initial Soviet use was for generating physical diseases directly, by incorporating the "engines" (curvature spacetime patterns) for specific diseases, inside the Whittaker structuring of the scalar potential (field-free potential) or then later inside fields and waves also. All present EM is just a set of "envelopes" comprised of far more fundamental coupled longitudinal EM wavepairs, where each pair is comprised of a time-polarized EM wave (active on the time axis and in the mind realm directly), and a coupled longitudinal EM wave in 3-space. The long "microwave radiation of the former U.S. Embassy in Moscow", e.g., utilized the structuring (engines) inside the field-free potentials. The exposed bodies in those field-free areas were actually in stable field-free potentials. Potentials superpose; so the automatic supposition of the disease-engine-structured scalar potentials diffused their structures through the body simply by superposing with the body´s own potentials (on the surfaces of the cellular membranes and everywhere else, even deep inside each cell and on each part of each cell).

The Russian term for this kind of higher group symmetry EM work is "energetics", which has three branches depending upon what is targeted by using the work as a weapon: (1) targeted against inert mass objects and ordinary fields and potentials in them, it is called by the same name, energetics. (2) targeted against living bodies and their ordinary fields and potentials, it is called "bioenergetics". (3) targeted against the minds and mind operations of living entities, it is called "psychoenergetics".

The present status of the development is such that control of a person´s mind and perceptions (three examples: Captain´s Button, Svoboda, and Hess) can be totally taken over and controlled at a distance, even while that person is accomplishing a highly technical task. In other places we have detailed what happened to those three examples. This capability was originally developed so as to be able to counter one of the special "dead man fuzing" type assets of a small friendly foreign country possessing quantum potential weapons and thus able to counter in that area.
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http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/032003.htm

Today one would point out that, in quantum field theory, there are four polarizations of the photon. Three of the polarizations are in 3-space, hence the energy is oscillating in 3-space. The fourth polarization has the energy oscillating on the time axis ict, where the only variable is t. Hence it is an oscillation of energy along t- (scalar) not along x- or y- (transverse) or z- (longitudinal). Neither the scalar photon nor the longitudinal photon is individually observable, but the combination is observed as the instantaneous scalar potential.

And that is a big clue to the nature of mind operations. They may be modeled totally as electromagnetics, but over on the time axis, and consisting of scalar photons and scalar EM waves. They couple with the longitudinal EM waves in the body (e.g., on membranes and most boundaries at any cellular level) to produce scalar potentials --- common but minute voltages and voltage variations. When we look at brain waves, we are seeing the coupling of the mind-electromagnetics (mind operations) with longitudinal EM waves in the body. So we can get at the mindstuff indirectly.

The Russians figured that out decades ago, and also highly weaponized it, unfortunately. The point is that an extended electromagnetics (i.e., a higher group symmetry electromagnetics) can in fact model such mind-matter interactions, and someday we will indeed have an extended physics of just that: mind and matter interactions.
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n-dimensional reality re-engineering: weaponizing infinity and beyond

http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/051403.htm

As far as I am aware, only Russia and one other nation have the massless "engine robots" yet.

There are now a few serious indications (tests) of the next development beyond the robots, which is an area very difficult to explain. One could call it "direct engineering of reality" or "crossing multiple realities". It is an extended (next logical stage) use of engines. One could call it "n-dimensional engineering" or "use of n-dimensional engines". When one has a 3-dimensional snapshot of a universe, that is the universe at a single point in time, frozen. By adding the fourth dimension, one gets a "world-history" -- the set of all such 3-snapshots in the history of that specific 4-world from its inception to its end. If one then adds a fifth dimension, one gets the "set of all possible world-histories". God knows what one gets with the sixth dimension added, or the eighth, or the twentieth! The 5-universe is like the multi-universe solution to QM, where every possible variant of every possible 4-world exists. That is the arena some engineering is now being done in, at least in early starting stages. As you can see, it is also an area that is difficult even to clearly think about. In that area, one simply cannot use 3-law logic, but must use 5-law logic. We´re working on it, but it´s slow, slow, slow because of the agonizing opposition of the old 3-space head and 3-perception. But this appears to be the new weapons technology for the 21st century.

The basis for that technology was actually laid down way back there, in developing the ability to use a portable unit and have a person (usually a high level assassin) "walk through walls" and also walk along the road in an invisible ("cloaked", if one prefers that term) state. That has been here in elementary and difficult form since the early 1980s, in at least two nations. I had a couple experiences with that end of it that were, to put it mildly, rather mind-blowing. One was actually for beneficial purposes, and the other was with a view toward my demise. What prevented the latter is also another mind-blowing area as well, and happened by sheer fluke of fate or whatever.

The extension of those engines devoted to engineering the mind and mind-body connection is also underway into the n-dimensional business, but I´ve not been able to find any indicators directly relevant. Still looking and watching. It´s there, and one can sense it, but it´s still very well hidden.

The rising n-dimensional engine area is important enough that I´ve started thinking about a possible new book, condensing a summary of the special weapons to date and including the other exotic weapons we will have to deal with in the first half of this century. The NEGEMP of course, and the QP weapons and the robots, but engine technology is extending dramatically into n-dimensional technology (including the robots). Since technology is an amoral tool, it of course can be used for either good or evil purposes. The morality --- or the lack thereof --- is in the hands of the user. The more advanced and powerful the technology, the more advanced and powerful its use for both good and evil. With humanity´s usual aplomb, it appears n-dimensional engines will be used for ever more powerful weaponry first (and maybe even to the point of denying any beneficial use of it). It´s sad in a way, because if the engine technology were pursued for beneficial purposes, it could solve most of the material problems on Earth, including disease, old age, you name it. Anyway, a book in the overall area might be useful, but it will be the very devil to write and prepare. But we´re at least thinking about it. If I were ten years younger and had more vigor, I would definitely already be tackling it. As it is, I have to sorta roll it around on the tip of my tongue for awhile, to see if I can stir up enough momentum to take something like that on.

So that´s about where it is. The Big Five are still the Big Five, with respect to the QP weapons, but others are working away and closing in. The one cheerful point is that we ourselves are reaching solvency with where all this was at 2000. But now we have two great leaps to make again: the robots and the n-dimensional engines.

Posted by sickuminatus @ 11/13/2003 05:25 PM EST

Sickuminatus,

All hail Discordia! 5-law logic you say? Howsabout we start up OM? What RAW books have you read? I've read Illuminatus! (which I'm currently re-reading) Schrodinger's Cat Trilogy, and Everything Is Under Control. I think of everything in 2s and 3s.

Chapel,

Read Illuminatus! Trilogy by Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea, then go visit Gandalf at the Treehouse. But get it at Barnes & Noble, as you know Border's employees are on strike.

Posted by Raul @ 11/13/2003 06:36 PM EST

Todd,

I was confused and worried when I read that you were praising Freerepublic.com. But, I figured that was only because you said that in '96. I read about John McCain's treachery in You Are Being Lied To by disinfo. Where can I get your books? They sound interesting.

Posted by Raul @ 11/13/2003 07:06 PM EST

Other countries not mentioned above, and still not a complete list, hit by unusual blackouts during 2003 include Argentina, Chile , Mexico,Malaysia, Finland, Denmark, Sweden Switzerland and Australia.
All this has occurred since Bushs National Security PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE 16 - a secret plan for the United States to wage cyber warfare against other countries. the Pentagon is authorized under this plan to use electronic weaponry to bring down the electrical grids of enemy nations.

Posted by charlie @ 11/14/2003 04:12 AM EST

Glad to see your back, man!
The gubment goons seem to be killing off all sorts of folks. I wasn't surprised when Margie croaked. I'm surprised they didn't "accident" her earlier.

Saw something about a bunch of Jessica Lynch's rescuers dying right after she signed a book deal. http://karmakat.typepad.com/picasso_dreams/2003/10/its_just_a_coin.html

Keep up the fight and stay safe. Glad your back.

Posted by Reject the NWO @ 11/15/2003 05:44 PM EST

the internet will not BE there after the next terrorist attack. it is the beating heart of the anti-bush movement and it going to be one of the casualties of the next 9/11. when it finally DOES comes back it will be as different from today's internet as the new world trade center will be from what was there before 9/11.

i expect the official scenario to be terrorist hackers getting inside a nuke plant system, crippling it, and causing a meltdown disaster- possibly several disasters at the same time.

and don't be too surprised if a DOMESTIC "anti-government" group will be blamed for these attacks. what better way IS there to forge a new political correctness that is hostile to dissent? what better way to avoid dissent than to cheer bush's landslide victory in the wake of the new terrorist attacks? those bush-bashers will be a faint memory, and no one will really miss the internet.

i could be wrong i guess, but i have a feeling something horrible is going to happen.

Posted by victor was right @ 11/16/2003 08:13 AM EST

the internet will not BE there after the next terrorist attack. it is the beating heart of the anti-bush movement and it going to be one of the casualties of the next 9/11. when it finally DOES comes back it will be as different from today's internet as the new world trade center will be from what was there before 9/11.

i expect the official scenario to be terrorist hackers getting inside a nuke plant system, crippling it, and causing a meltdown disaster- possibly several disasters at the same time.

and don't be too surprised if a DOMESTIC "anti-government" group will be blamed for these attacks. what better way IS there to forge a new political correctness that is hostile to dissent? what better way to avoid dissent than to cheer bush's landslide victory in the wake of the new terrorist attacks? those bush-bashers will be a faint memory, and no one will really miss the internet.

i could be wrong i guess, but i have a feeling something horrible is going to happen.

Posted by victor was right @ 11/16/2003 08:14 AM EST

the internet will not BE there after the next terrorist attack. it is the beating heart of the anti-bush movement and it going to be one of the casualties of the next 9/11. when it finally DOES come back it will be as different from today's internet as the new world trade center will be from what was there before 9/11.

i expect the official scenario to be terrorist hackers getting inside a nuke plant system, crippling it, and causing a meltdown disaster- possibly several disasters at the same time.

and don't be too surprised if a DOMESTIC "anti-government" group will be blamed for these attacks. what better way IS there to forge a new political correctness that is hostile to dissent? what better way to avoid dissent than to cheer bush's landslide victory in the wake of the new terrorist attacks? those bush-bashers will be a faint memory, and no one will really miss the internet.

i could be wrong i guess, but i have a feeling something horrible is going to happen.

Posted by victor was right @ 11/16/2003 08:14 AM EST

the internet will not BE there after the next terrorist attack. it is the beating heart of the anti-bush movement and it going to be one of the casualties of the next 9/11. when it finally DOES come back it will be as different from today's internet as the new world trade center will be from what was there before 9/11.

i expect the official scenario to be terrorist hackers getting inside a nuke plant system, crippling it, and causing a meltdown disaster- possibly several disasters at the same time.

and don't be too surprised if a DOMESTIC "anti-government" group will be blamed for these attacks instead of radical muslims. what better way IS there to forge a new political correctness that is hostile to dissent? what better way to avoid dissent than to cheer bush's landslide victory in the wake of the new terrorist attacks? those bush-bashers will be a faint memory, and no one will really miss the internet.

i could be wrong i guess, but i have a feeling something horrible is going to happen.

Posted by victor was right @ 11/16/2003 08:17 AM EST

the internet will not BE there after the next terrorist attack. it is the beating heart of the anti-bush movement and it going to be one of the casualties of the next 9/11. when it finally DOES come back it will be as different from today's internet as the new world trade center will be from what was there before 9/11.

i expect the official scenario to be terrorist hackers getting inside a nuke plant system, crippling it, and causing a meltdown disaster- possibly several disasters at the same time.

and don't be too surprised if a DOMESTIC "anti-government" group will be blamed for these attacks instead of radical muslims. what better way IS there to forge a new political correctness that is hostile to dissent? what better way to avoid dissent than to cheer bush's landslide victory in the wake of the new terrorist attacks? those bush-bashers will be a faint memory, and no one will really miss the internet.

i could be wrong i guess, but i have a feeling something horrible is going to happen.

Posted by victor was right @ 11/16/2003 08:19 AM EST

the internet will not BE there after the next terrorist attack. it is the beating heart of the anti-bush movement and it going to be one of the casualties of the next 9/11. when it finally DOES come back it will be as different from today's internet as the new world trade center will be from what was there before 9/11.

i expect the official scenario to be terrorist hackers getting inside a nuke plant system, crippling it, and causing a meltdown disaster- possibly several disasters at the same time.

and don't be too surprised if a DOMESTIC "anti-government" group will be blamed for these attacks instead of radical muslims. what better way IS there to forge a new political correctness that is hostile to dissent? what better way to avoid dissent than to cheer bush's landslide victory in the wake of the new terrorist attacks? those bush-bashers will be a faint memory, and no one will really miss the internet.

i could be wrong i guess, but i have a feeling something horrible is going to happen.

Posted by victor was right @ 11/16/2003 08:22 AM EST

the internet will not BE there after the next terrorist attack. it is the beating heart of the anti-bush movement and it going to be one of the casualties of the next 9/11. when it finally DOES come back it will be as different from today's internet as the new world trade center will be from what was there before 9/11.

i expect the official scenario to be terrorist hackers getting inside a nuke plant system, crippling it, and causing a meltdown disaster- possibly several disasters at the same time.

and don't be too surprised if a DOMESTIC "anti-government" group will be blamed for these attacks instead of radical muslims. what better way IS there to forge a new political correctness that is hostile to dissent? what better way to avoid dissent than to cheer bush's landslide victory in the wake of the new terrorist attacks? those bush-bashers will be a faint memory, and no one will really miss the internet.

i could be wrong i guess, but i have a feeling something horrible is going to happen.

Posted by victor was right @ 11/16/2003 08:23 AM EST

the internet will not BE there after the next terrorist attack. it is the beating heart of the anti-bush movement and it going to be one of the casualties of the next 9/11. when it finally DOES come back it will be as different from today's internet as the new world trade center will be from what was there before 9/11.

i expect the official scenario to be terrorist hackers getting inside a nuke plant system, crippling it, and causing a meltdown disaster- possibly several disasters at the same time.

and don't be too surprised if a DOMESTIC "anti-government" group will be blamed for these attacks instead of radical muslims. what better way IS there to forge a new political correctness that is hostile to dissent? what better way to avoid dissent than to cheer bush's landslide victory in the wake of the new terrorist attacks? those bush-bashers will be a faint memory, and no one will really miss the internet.

i could be wrong i guess, but i have a feeling something horrible is going to happen.

Posted by victor was right @ 11/16/2003 08:30 AM EST

Victor was right,

I agree. We better stock up on Ham Radios, Walkies, and especially Hand-to-Hand notes., as an E-Bomb couldn't stop that.

Marshall Law or DieBold cheating seems to be the only option for BushLaden Productions to remain in power.

Posted by Jesus Tits @ 11/17/2003 02:46 PM EST

Vox, I too am from your hometown & have been fearlessly fighting the New World Order since Moses was in apprentice school. Keep givin us the TRUTH. I will continue to spread the word & disseminate your lit as much as humanly possible. The sheeple may epiphanize, like a smack in the face with a wet pussy, when they LEARN that these Capitalist, Imperialist, Colonialist, Gangster motherfuckers have hijacked our once great country. (FTNWO) Fuck The New World Order.

Posted by ~Flash~ @ 11/19/2003 10:30 PM EST

Vox, I too am from your hometown & have been fearlessly fighting the New World Order since Moses was in apprentice school. Keep givin us the TRUTH. I will continue to spread the word & disseminate your lit as much as humanly possible. The sheeple may epiphanize, like a smack in the face with a wet pussy, when they LEARN that these Capitalist, Imperialist, Colonialist, Gangster motherfuckers have hijacked our once great country. (FTNWO) Fuck The New World Order......

Posted by ~Flash~ @ 11/19/2003 10:31 PM EST

Vox, I too am from your hometown & have been fearlessly fighting the New World Order since Moses was in apprentice school. Keep givin us the TRUTH. I will continue to spread the word & disseminate your lit as much as humanly possible. The sheeple may epiphanize, like a smack in the face with a wet pussy, when they LEARN that these Capitalist, Imperialist, Colonialist, Gangster motherfuckers have hijacked our once great country. (FTNWO) Fuck The New World Order......

Posted by ~Flash~ @ 11/19/2003 10:39 PM EST

Vox, I too am from your hometown & have been fearlessly fighting the New World Order since Moses was in apprentice school. Keep givin us the TRUTH. I will continue to spread the word & disseminate your lit as much as humanly possible. The sheeple may epiphanize, like a smack in the face with a wet pussy, when they LEARN that these Capitalist, Imperialist, Colonialist, Gangster motherfuckers have hijacked our once great country. (FTNWO) Fuck The New World Order......

Posted by ~Flash~ @ 11/19/2003 10:47 PM EST

Vox, I too am from your hometown & have been fearlessly fighting the New World Order since Moses was in apprentice school. Keep givin us the TRUTH. I will continue to spread the word & disseminate your lit as much as humanly possible. The sheeple may epiphanize, like a smack in the face with a wet pussy, when they LEARN that these Capitalist, Imperialist, Colonialist, Gangster motherfuckers have hijacked our once great country. (FTNWO) Fuck The New World Order......

Posted by ~Flash~ @ 11/19/2003 10:52 PM EST

Vox, I too am from your hometown & have been fearlessly fighting the New World Order since Moses was in apprentice school. Keep givin us the naked TRUTH. I will continue to spread the word & disseminate your lit as much as humanly possible. The sheeple may epiphanize, like a smack in the face with a wet pussy, when they LEARN that these Capitalist, Imperialist, Colonialist, Gangster motherfuckers have hijacked our once great country. (FTNWO) Fuck The New World Order......

Posted by ~Flash~ @ 11/19/2003 10:53 PM EST

Those who oppress our freedom are like a black hole - all they know how to do is suck our energies and try to perpetuate the myth that no one can stop their murderous reign of terror.

Light gets sucked into the black hole, maybe while your head's wrapped around the TV, but nothing productive comes out, unless you consider passive acceptance of the genocide of untold millions of people a type of 'progress'.

After all, this whole mess is a result of greedy power brokers who think they can rob from others to add to their own till and never have to give an honest accounting of their deeds, which some of us are aware of, but most are not.

And how do they get compliance from the masses of non-thinkers who have seemingly also lost the ability to feel compassion for those who are being murdered on their own streets and in their own beds, with nary a whimper of disagreement, let alone real protest?

What rough beast slouches from your viewing screen towards Jerusalem, or Washington or London?

People don't seem to know the difference any more between outright murder and what is really just entertainment, and the blurring of these distinctions has been a hallmark of the NWO tactics TO SUBVERT US AND USE US AS PAWNS AND CANNON FODDER FOR THEIR FUN AND AMUSEMENT, NOT TO MENTION OBSCENE PROFITEERING FROM THE SUFFERING OF UNTOLD NUMBERS OF INNOCENTS.

Someone made the point that movies have become extremely graphic in detailing violence and yet such atrocities are not(!) to be shown on news programs, because it might 'upset' some of the more sensitive viewers.

Too shocking to be seen in a family setting!

But most of these sensitive types would have no trouble watching, for instance, Saving Private Ryan (OK< I never saw it myself, but I know it glorifies war and that's enough).

One of the things they did during the Vietnam War was to show all the casualties each night on the news. When people saw that carnage on TV it really brought home the senseless waste of wars and most of all THE REALITY OF WAR! REAL PEOPLE REALLY DO DIE AND MANY SUFFER GREATLY IN A WAR! IT'S NOT JUST SOME FANTASY FOR YOUR IDLE ENTERTAINMENT AND AMUSEMENT or a distant distraction, for that matter!

Because of TV and the media in general, most people have been kept in a permanent state of arrested mental and spiritual development. Juvenitis...

War is now considered as so much un-reality and distasteful to talk about, by so many little followers (fall-overs), unless they somehow become victims themselves (which is not out of the question if you ask me).

Recently, a co-worker revisited Afghanistan after twenty years. Apparently, most of the houses in Kabul have no roofs to speak of anymore, after being bombed. In other words, people are sleeping more or less out in the open.

Do they show us that on the TV Warnews? Of course not, it would be insensitive of them to show us the gritty reality of real people suffering.

Cut that scene for Hollywood-type posterity, and sanitize sanitize sanitize, find happy smiling not-bleeding refugees to convince the suckers in the big circus tent at home, so that we can make them agree that bombing the 'foreigners' is the same as saving them, and alas, in order to civilize their country, some lives must be sacrificed.

But why must anyone be sacrificed. Isn't every life precious to God, who Bush claims to talk to, daily? But why must anyone be made cannon fodder to a tin-god who cares for nothing except gold and more plunder?

Anyone who says they have long talks with God, in which they discuss what country to dismember next, is either a liar or certifiably criminally insane. Either way, should be removed and tried as a war criminal.

Agreeing with the whole concept of going to war to 'fix' some 'evil' country that's been 'broken' in the first place by the same violent forces that want to 'democratize' it, (because they weren't 'democratic' enough - at least that is the excuse trotted out every time) is not only spineless but also immoral.

Imposing sanctions means depriving innocent children of the necessities of life, such as food and medicine, clean water, heat and electric light. In what way are these children terrorists? If they aren't terrorists now, after this they will be, thanks to idiot greed.

When some faceless coward bastards murder your family, burn down your home and cripple your country for decades with radiactive dust that causes birth defects, what else is left for you to do?

Are you just going to say "Yes, you are right, thank you American soldiers for showing me how to improve myself and not grow up to be a killer of American soldiers."

And yes, I know, Saddam was a bastard too, but how many bastards are they currently propping up in other countries that they have no problem with supporting?

Patriotism should entail more than just mindlessly waving the flag and inventing enemies to march upon. So someone more powerful than you, say Dan Rather, tells you to agree with some half-truth, and because you feel powerless and have unconsciously felt that way your whole life, you slowly cave in and agree with the TV Caesar point of view. But should you, or are you, in the splendid coat of information you sport, merely uninformed and ignorant of the true facts?

The Emperor has no clothes. If you agree with his policies of extermination for profit, neither do you.

What is real wealth anyway?
Nothing is worth anything if you have to kill to get it.

Blind trust in authority is such a slippery slope.

Without ever knowing why, you agreed you opted out to ingest the slow poisoning of your own discernment, by weasels, who rip your flesh, as Frank Zappa so aptly said.

So you become just another empty vessel to fill with the lies and fraudulent belief systems so prevalent that work against yours and almost everyone's best interests, except (they think) the ultra-rich and their ambitious slaves.

It's hard to wake up! And I have tried to wake others up but they don't seem to realize the deep we're in. (Brains in the pot they're begining to boil, they're dripping with garlic and olive oil)

You don't 'ask any questions about the cargo you are carrying because your brain waves are so flat when you are always in the horizontal (mental)position. Stand! Adjust the vertical hold some...

The fucking TV Caesar is on continually in just about every home. And in the capacity of my crappy job, I visit the homes of many people, and the belief in the omnipotent power of Caesar is everywhere manifested in our need for entertainment 'fixes', most of which are empty-headed rubbish and dangerous to the morals of any individual and/or nation.

But the power brokers and controllers know that, and with ever more sophistication they have perfected the soul-less slide into the disconnect from reality and the participation in the 'Roman Games', whose god is of course Caesar. Who is of course killing babies by proxy (are they terrorists too?)to protect us, of course.

What the electronic media has always been, is a victory of style over substance. Witness the decline of society since TV was introduced. No wonder it was freee! But It poisoned ME! So six months ago I turned it off forever, and in retrospect I'm sure it was the right thing to do.

People just don't get it though. Today I got a telemarketing call from my cable company, whose rep was breathlessly trying to convince me of the need for some new digital upgrade....

"Excuse me", I interrupted, but I don't watch TV."

"Oh...Well how many hours of TV do you think you watch a week?"

"None. I don't watch ANY TV."

I think she must have never come across this situation before with anyone else.

Is there a law on the books that says I HAVE TO WATCH TV? And if I'm a Luddite just tell me, I can take it.

"Well is there any particular reason for that?" she said after a short but asymetrical pause.

"I don't like it." I said, laughing like a witch made of water tied to the stake.

"Well got to go, thanks so much for calling", I said and went back to the only media worth it's salt, and my hard earned Canadian dollar, the internet.

Nearly everything else out there is BUSCH LEAGUE AND TAINTED doublespeak.

Give me 'first knowledge' that I got through my own efforts to understand and not second-hand crap I got by osmosis and unconsciously.

And that's why I refuse to listen to, read or watch standard media anymore. They are liars and parrots and need to be exposed as such by as many people as possible as soon as possible!

Critical Mass is coming, but when?I'm interested to see how big the protests get in Great Britain this weekend.

Pass the litmus please.

Posted by screade @ 11/21/2003 04:13 AM EST

A thought, if we get drafted we should let them arm us and set us up with all that war loving gear they set troops up with and then we can take our country back.

Raul, we need to talk.Call me.

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Posted by uouo @ 12/01/2003 11:01 AM EST

If you were accidented, no one would even notice. Not until the smell got so great that the meter reader for your electric company noticed something was up.

You have a large following? HAHAHAHAHAHA! You are a nobody. Sooner or later, when you have enough money for your new car and a little extra built up, you will simply stop writing. Then, you will come back under a different name, reealing to all the terrible news that Vox has been found dead. You will open another site saying you will carry on the crusade. And of course, that costs money, so please use PayPal.

Posted by The Accidenter @ 12/10/2003 02:31 AM EST

If you were accidented, no one would even notice. Not until the smell got so great that the meter reader for your electric company noticed something was up.

You have a large following? HAHAHAHAHAHA! You are a nobody. Sooner or later, when you have enough money for your new car and a little extra built up, you will simply stop writing. Then, you will come back under a different name, reealing to all the terrible news that Vox has been found dead. You will open another site saying you will carry on the crusade. And of course, that costs money, so please use PayPal.

Posted by The Accidenter @ 12/10/2003 02:33 AM EST

Open letter to Mr. Thomas BODSTRÖM, Minister for Justice (masked affairs-!?-): Dear Exellance, Glamorous Chair of Sosis Capitalism regi; WHAT ARE YOU THINKING on USraeli Terror Machine which spread nowadays its well-masked ASSASSINATION UNITES in YOUR COUNTRY? Is your TRUE COUNTRY the militarized ZOGang of Fascist USraeli Mafia or its satellite well-corrupted SWEDISH KINGDOM?

Read this documentation first, please!..The True TERROR&VIOLENCE&ASSASSINATION ORGANIZATIONS of ZOG: USrael teach terror combats (combat=krav) in Scandinavia to annihilate (maga) oppsite individuals under civil masked tactics&provocative executions.. Project called Krav Maga of IDF (IDF=Insanity Death Forces of ZOGang)...Services completely working on these address' under these "fake organizations"&ID-cards&passports and tel. numbers:

IKMF (Israel Krav Maga Forces) dominate satellites now in the EU, most advanced satelite Sweden:
1-) Göteborg Krav Maga Center
2-) International School of Krav Maga
3-) Krav Maga Academy - GBG
4-) Krav Maga Academy - STH
5-) Krav Maga Askersund
6-) Krav Maga Center Jönköping
7-) Krav Maga Gotland
8-) Krav Maga HQ
9-) Krav Maga Kalmar
10-) Krav Maga Landskrona
11-) Krav Maga Lund
12-) Krav Maga Malmö
13-) Krav Maga Nybro
14-) Krav Maga Orust
15-) Krav Maga Umeå
16-) Kiruna
17-) Vesterås

- Let's see the details and chiefs, main figures of "Sport courses"-labelled criminal trainee unites:
1-) Göteborg Krav Maga Center: KLUBBINFORMATION; Ansvarig instruktör: Fredrik Blixt
Ort: Göteborg
Graduate 1
Adress: Nordhemskolan, Nordhemsgatan 51-61
Telefon: 0739 - 31 76 67, 0706 - 67 54 66
Email: gbgkmc@