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Remeber when the great sage voxfux looked into his crstal ball and predicted "Absolutely positively, in the months leading up to the next presidential election, a clandestine military/intelligence operations group linked to George Bush Sr. will execute a strategic pre-election terrorist attack in America designed to kill Americans and send this country into martial law." Wrong then wrong now. He is part of the lunatic fringe of society.

Posted by Unknown Soldier @ 11/09/2004 11:53 AM EST

Lunatic Fringe, nice try, spook. Not at all. It was only because of the massive effort at exposing the dirty bomb plot by people like Voxfux and Alex Jones and others that the Bushes realized that they couldn't do the dirty bomb attack. That is why Voxfux has carefully tied the eminent dirty bomb plot in the same article regarding the Busheses assassination attempt of reagan and on teh same website as all of Bushes SEXUAL scandles. This way the Bushes realized that if they do the Dirty Bomb attack, which they were planning to do, then quite possibly it would simply bring too much attention to this site. And that would not be good, considering all the HOMOSEXUAL PEDOPHELIC CHILD SEXUAL scandles that are archived on this site.

BTW Spook. I havn't hear you chime in on all the PROOF that vox has presented that shows that Bush sr. likes little boys. Shouldn't a spook like you be all macho and reject this family because of this fact about the father.
Or are you Mr. Unknown Soldier, a little bit of a boylover yourself. Hmmmm.

For sure Vox foiled the Dirty Bomb plot.
Thart is why he wrote about it, duh.

Remember spook, the motto for Voxes website is, "THE NEWS BEFORE IT HAPPENS, SO THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN."

What don't you understand about that, dickhead?

Posted by SPOOK HELPER @ 11/09/2004 12:13 PM EST

Yea, I havn't heard this spook prick who goes by the name "Unknown Soldier" pipe up and chime in on teh Bushes CHILD SEXUAL SCANDAL. Come on Spook, what have you got to say about that. Or are you a homosexual spook yourself, into little boy, hmmmm is right.

Posted by The Lord @ 11/09/2004 12:50 PM EST

Sticks and stones little bitches!!!

Posted by Unknown Soldier @ 11/09/2004 05:04 PM EST

Good Point Folkes. So come on there mr. SPOOK Why don't you tell us all here haw you feel about Georgie Bushes alleged Homosexuality with his longtime college buddy who stays in adjacent rooms when Bush used to travel. And Please let us all here know exactly how you feel about the many DOCUMENTED strange alligations of HOMOSEXUAL PEDIPHILIA of George the father.

We all await your responses.

Posted by BUSH INVESTIGATOR @ 11/09/2004 05:38 PM EST

I noticed the spook is keeping his mouth shut finally, maybe this should be the new strategy when dealing with these fucks, just ask them to explain how the feel about Bushes homosexuality and his dads pedophelia and whola! They shut the fuck up.

New Technique

Posted by Karl Rove @ 11/09/2004 06:36 PM EST

Vox,

I would really like to listen to your radio shows--they're great stuff. A nice complement to Alex Jones (which I read you were chilling with during the RNC). Please archive the shows and make them available for download. Thanks.

Posted by Raul @ 11/09/2004 06:40 PM EST

Vox, tried to listen to your radio show, but couldn't find it. when I emailed radio 365, they told me you don't exist. copy of the letter is as follows:
FROM RADIO 365 RESPONSE
Hi

I am sorry but there is no stations by that name in our systems. They most
likely changed their station name with us and have not updated their links
to it.

Thanks,

Adam
Live365 Technical Support

Original Message Follows:
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From: pinkpanther
Subject: the Vox- live from hell
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 03:39:04 -0000

I wanted to listen to the Vox, but I didn't know how to tune it in. Ho can
i listen to the Vox, aka www.voxfux.com.

Posted by the pink panther @ 11/09/2004 10:16 PM EST

Bush's winning was clandestine military/intelligence operation strike. This country is under martial law now. Some things won't be broadcasted on the plastic love box (TV) where you get your news.

Posted by mabus @ 11/10/2004 02:02 AM EST

If the Bush Administration had all this power to run clandestine military/intelligence operations don't you think they would of used some of that power to get rid of Jacques Chirac.

Posted by Unknown Soldier @ 11/10/2004 09:14 AM EST

Unknown Soldier,

You people from the "Redneck States" forget one thing....It is the Blue States that pay for all your federal funds. You Goat-Ropers receive more than you pay out, while the opposite is true for blue states. Also, you "moral" rednecks and Born-Again Christo-Fascists have a higher divorce rate than Blue states and long-term gay relationships. Besides rigging the election, AGAIN, you are liars and hypocrites.

Posted by 666999 @ 11/10/2004 02:23 PM EST

Red states give more to charity. Besides how do you know what state I live in? You self aggrandizing, Michael Moore worshiping two faced ask the U.N for permission chump.

Posted by Unknown Soldier @ 11/10/2004 03:01 PM EST

Prove what you are saying on charity. Do you mean Churches or Environmental Groups? You are a "Red-State" low IQ type (yes, the lower the IQ , the more one would vote for Bush), as per your idiotic-inbred statements. Where did I say I like Michael Morre or the UN. Suppose I am a real Conservative like Ron Paul, who completely distrusts the Neo-Conazionists and their sycophantic robots like your self. Now, go drive away in your pickup, have sex with your sister, polish your one tooth, and don't look too longingly at sheep's bare butts.

Posted by 666999 @ 11/10/2004 04:25 PM EST

You wrote "You are a "Red-State" low IQ type (yes, the lower the IQ , the more one would vote for Bush)" Yet we won the election so how stupid does that make you. The only sister I will be having sex with is YOURS.

Posted by Unknown Soldier @ 11/10/2004 04:47 PM EST

Don't have a sister, stoopnagle. The election was rigged, but that might too much for your little mind to comprehend. Whether Bush "won" or not doe not matter. Anybody who voted for him is one or more of the following

1) Born-Again Fundmentalist Extremist
2) Stupid
3) Frightened
4) Rich and wants big tax return

Read here to enlighten yourself on amount of fraud that exists. Follow the links. You do know how to do that correct?

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_vote_fraud.html

Posted by 666999 @ 11/10/2004 05:25 PM EST

You conspiracy lunatics are all the same. You are still a bigger idiot because you backed Kerry the flip flopping spectacle which makes you a big LOSER.

Posted by Unknown Soldier @ 11/10/2004 06:28 PM EST

Who said I supported Kerry? Who said I even voted? Who said I live in the USA? You wonder why the rest of the world thinks 1/2 of all Americans are idiots?

Which of the 4 characteristics of a Bush supporter are you?

1) Born-Again Fundmentalist Extremist
2) Stupid
3) Frightened
4) Rich and wants big tax return

Posted by 666999 @ 11/10/2004 09:41 PM EST

If you do not live in America I do not even need to talk to you because you are obviously inferior.

Posted by Unknown Soldier @ 11/10/2004 09:51 PM EST

First, stop the bickering. It is wasting someone's hard drive space.

Second, I frequent this site often and I was hoping someone might be able to explain why there wasn't any new posted articles to this site over the last couple of months. Did voxfux get into any kind of legal trouble.

Third, for those who believe the daily lies and disinformation from the media, you can't believe everything you read on this site or on infowars.com. However, a lot of it is true and the ones that are bogus do hold truth in the core of the idea that is being presented. In order to understand the fucked up situation in the world today you have to be willing to think independently and that means leaving behind the fear of being called a lunatic.

Posted by Iraq war veteran @ 11/11/2004 04:16 AM EST

First, stop the bickering. It is wasting someone's hard drive space.

Second, I frequent this site often and I was hoping someone might be able to explain why there wasn't any new posted articles to this site over the last couple of months. Did voxfux get into any kind of legal trouble.

Third, for those who believe the daily lies and disinformation from the media, you can't believe everything you read on this site or on infowars.com. However, a lot of it is true and the ones that are bogus do hold truth in the core of the idea that is being presented. In order to understand the fucked up situation in the world today you have to be willing to think independently and that means leaving behind the fear of being called a lunatic.

Posted by Iraq war veteran @ 11/11/2004 04:18 AM EST

Unknown Soldier now believes he/she/it is of "The Master Race" AND is a "Coincidence Theorist".

To Iraq War Vet...Yes, I agree that Infowars sometimes has some Kooky Religious stuff, but generally is close to the truth.

Posted by 666999 @ 11/11/2004 07:31 AM EST

Getting back to Vox's post on Morphogenic Thought.....It is most important to concentrate on Non-Linear thinking ala Terrance McKenna, Tim Leary, RA Wilson, etc. We are being bombarded daily with an onslaught of Linear thought by way of Bush, Falwell, Neo-Cons, Nazis, Born-Again Christians, and Unknown Soldier-types..Linear Thinking if you will. Listen to DEVO instead of Toby Keith. Peace instead of War.

Posted by 666999 @ 11/11/2004 03:30 PM EST

Peace through Strength. This world was evil long before America came into existance the only problem for the world is we brought a gun to a knife fight.

Posted by Unknown Soldier @ 11/11/2004 09:47 PM EST

How Orwellian Unknown Soldier! Peace thorough war! I don't think people like yourself really want peace, because your own mind has a battle going on inside of it between Peace and War. The two cannot and never will exist together. This is your typical Biblical myth of a cosmic battle between Satan and God, manifested in your everyday life. There is only logic and irrationality in the universe. The Bushies have chosen the irrational path.

And the Chinese will be bringing Nukes, Plasma guns, and portable linear accelerators. The US will NEVER take on China, as bullies never attack each other, or one's a strong as the other. Should be interesting, since the Chinese just invetsted $100 billion into Iranian oil.

The US has been generating instability around the world since it's inception, especially since 1947, where the CIA was initiated by the inclusion of many former Nazis and SS troops.

Posted by 666999 @ 11/12/2004 09:52 AM EST

I wrote PEACE THROUGH STRNGTH not peace through war you simple minded 2 dimensional creature. As far as China goes if they even dare to take Taiwan we will be knee deep in their rice bowl. I do not get what you mean by plasma guns and portable linear accelerators it is not possible for them to possess such weapons since we do not have the technology yet they cannot have the technology because China needs someone to steal the technology from.

Posted by Unknown Soldier @ 11/12/2004 11:52 AM EST

By the way 666999 where are you from?

Posted by Unknown Soldier @ 11/12/2004 11:56 AM EST

I am from Planet Earth.

Now, I will use your "philosophy" on you. You say Strength=Peace. You can't even convince 1/2 of Americans to think your way. You come to this site just to ridicule people, and add nothing to the discussion. If you want people to cooperate with your way of thinking, you must meet halfway. Your boy Bush wants Americans to become Conservatives and kiss his jackboots. Do you really believe Liberals and Constitutionalists will do that? You see, the only way the Christo-Fascists can convince people of anything is to threaten and ricicule, point guns at. You can't use logic and compassion becuase you don't possess either. You make people FEAR. That is your ONLY game.

Peace comes through Peace not War or strengnth. You are speaking double-think again, the ability to carry 180 degree contradictory concepts inside of one's head at the same time. Sort of like Christian Pornography, Military Intelligence, or Destroying a village to save it.

Do you seriously think China would allow Cowboyland to attack it, and not get a World War as a result? Read Spacewars.com sometime, and see what China and Russia are brewing up.

Now continue your line of thought, as the readers see more of your personality profile. That is why I am engaging you in conversation, if you can call it that.

Posted by 666999 @ 11/12/2004 12:35 PM EST

just like any well-made horror movie, i believe our near future will bring to bear a horrific shattering of this dumbed-down, "we're safe now" mindset.

i personally do NOT put much trust in the writings of agent lance whatshisname (a.k.a "VOXFUX") but i DO think all roads lead to another 9/11 in spite of his failed predictions, and that it will probably happen before spring.

in truth, when you consider all the shoulder-fired missles and high explosives that just HAVE to be out there, the next big attack is long overdue.

Posted by victor was right @ 11/12/2004 04:09 PM EST

Actually we are in Martial Law as Vox predicted. Look at the tanks in Los Angeles the other day. It may be virtual, but in effect it is real.

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Posted by bX @ 11/12/2004 05:31 PM EST

Great page bX. Non-Linear and hyper-dimensional. I heard Negativland speak about this in an interview a few months back.

Time-Wave Zero is accelerating both evolution AND de-evolution, even if ithas not actually happened yet...unless it already has and we are on a feedback loop going backward and forward.

Posted by 666999 @ 11/12/2004 09:56 PM EST

For whoever is not against us is on our side. - Mark 9:40

Either you are with us or against us. - President G. W. Bush

It's a bad sign when the most powerful man in the world copies the Messiah but reverses the meaning of his statements.

Posted by MR. ELEVEN @ 11/13/2004 01:29 AM EST

Matthew 12:30 He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. KJV 1611 Mark 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part. KJV 1611 ... You sure the Messiah did not reverse the meanings of his statements first Mr. Eleven?

Posted by Dan20002 @ 11/13/2004 11:50 AM EST

I would like to also add that per the Bible Jesus himself plays the Scatterer ( his own adversary, scattering his own people). Matthew 26:31 KJV 1611 Than Jesus saith unto them,All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the Shepard , and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered. Now The sheep we know are Jesus own People, The Shepard must be the Anti-Christ or someone subbing for him, and no less doing the will of God. Put together the corrections and the Christian so called enemy is Jesus best friend. And God fools the entier earth, good stuff.

Posted by Dan20002 @ 11/13/2004 12:57 PM EST

you guys are scary! i wish i was a kid again attending my southern baptist ss class.

Posted by wally @ 11/13/2004 06:32 PM EST

x

Posted by Un @ 11/13/2004 07:10 PM EST

Pain is a perception

Posted by Unknown Soldier @ 11/13/2004 07:12 PM EST

I just show the truth, sometimes the truth can offend. Here some more truth. Adam made Adam from dust, but the curse of serpent is to eat dust, Why A sinner is a serpents dinner. Lazarus had 2 napkins on him for a good reason = was sinner plate. End be a time of famine, lots of weeping and gnashing of teeth be going on, What happens when Serpents hunger. Hell = Heated Cell, used to cook sinners in. God called God cause God opposite of dog, a dog gathers bones, God Scatters the bones and bring people to nought. Yeah people must be born again, but alot more literally than Percieve. Heres a few Good verses Matthew 11:11 KJV 1611 Verily i say unto you, among them that are born of women (((( Jesus means in first life,Why it says of those born of women)) There hath not risen ( He means Rise from dust, like reincarnation) a greater than John the Baptist: Than in next few verses Matthew 11:14 Says John was Elias in his former life. I have lots of goodies like this and could go on all nite!

Posted by Dan20002 @ 11/13/2004 11:53 PM EST

God made Adam ofcourse from dust I meant.

Posted by Dan20002 @ 11/13/2004 11:57 PM EST

Good points Dan20002. However the meaning of the statements are consistent in the Bible whereas twisted by Mr. Bush. The "me" and "us" refered to in the Gospels are the way of "Jesus" which essentially encompassed love of neighbor, "God", and truth. The "us" Bush refered to I think had to do with his military/monetary masonic oil cabal.

As for Bush being an Anti-Christ Shepard this much is obvious particularly the way so many so-called "christians" follow him. To say that he is doing the "will of God" is a stretch. "God's will" is that we follow his laws - love of neighbor, God, and truth being the most supreme. Though Bush may certainly percieve he is following God's will, he is really just following his God-given freedom of choice as we are as well by going along with it. That God allows it is surely to teach us a lesson in judgement.

OK, I'm in the wrong forum I know.

Posted by MR. ELEVEN @ 11/14/2004 12:27 AM EST

I was just showing the scriptural Contradiction, and your point that Bush reversed the Messiahs words were not true, Since Jesus clearly played both sides scripturally. I agree with your point of Bush being a Phony christian and I was not defending him. Many try to appear outwardly good but inwardly are wolves. If Bush was truly a compassionate , caring person, He would have actually tried to limit the civilian casualities ( American and Iraqi in the cause for democracy).The number of innocent iraqi civilians that have been wounded or killed in the effort to bring peace is clearly unacceptable. We are talking about innocent people slaughter daily, how anyone can see that as good is beyond me. Bush has betrayed the world by going to war without U.N. approval placing America in a position they ought not be placed in. Bush inherited a nice budget and has made it a major deficit. But Cnn tells you Bush is great and they are the Bandwagon train, what they say , all believe . And Gods will, and the will of George Bush are as you clearly state 2 different things entirely.

Posted by Dan20002 @ 11/14/2004 01:08 AM EST

The 'dirty bomb attack' or any type of attack for that matter, will be highly likely taking place in the next fours years, not by any Islamic terrorist group, but by the real perpretators of 9/11. The effect of 9/11 has began to wear of the fickle American public. A new attack will finally put the nail in the coffin of liberty for that nation.

Feel free to tell me I'm wrong in four years Unknown Soldier. Unfortunately I don't think you will be able to.

Posted by Adrian @ 11/14/2004 01:18 AM EST

Then I stand corrected on Bush reversing the Messiah's words. Though Bush's original statement was "either you are with us or you are with the terrorists." Is this not indeed a twist on the meaning of the Messiah's words particularly given Bush complicity in 911?

Posted by MR. ELEVEN @ 11/14/2004 01:58 AM EST

For anyone wanting a lesson on religion and its roots, take a look at David Icke's book "The Biggest Secret." Some of the stuff is a little out there, but the research seems thorough. From an ex-mormon, non-believer in organized religion, I found the information more on par with what felt right than with any other thing I've heard or read. Question: If the Bible is the one true word of God, why has it been revised over 35,000 times, and why have these revisions taken place all after the death of Christ? Check out "The Biggest Secret." It's enlightening.

Posted by Always in search of truth @ 11/14/2004 02:07 AM EST

What does Biblical mythology have to do with Morphogenic Synthesis and Chaos Theory?

Posted by 666999 @ 11/14/2004 11:41 AM EST

This ain't Vox. Harry, wherever you may be I hope you have access to Kuby.

Posted by Guy @ 11/14/2004 12:53 PM EST

Also - If this really is Vox, where are all the anti Unknown Soldier responses in Red?

One more thing: Vox, I like you, man, but you really can't blame "google fascists" for letting your site die. Not updating for six months will do that.

Posted by Guy @ 11/14/2004 01:04 PM EST

Also - If this really is Vox, where are all the anti Unknown Soldier responses in Red?

One more thing: Vox, I like you, man, but you really can't blame "google fascists" for letting your site die. Not updating for six months will do that.

Posted by Guy @ 11/14/2004 01:06 PM EST

Vox's Google hits went from 8,000 to 4,000 in an extremely short (not gradual decay) span.

Posted by Raul @ 11/14/2004 01:38 PM EST

I've been following the Vox google erasure as well. (berkeley human rights center UCB) Seems a little too fast for a normal reduction. And since around election time a lot of high profile sites started carrying more of the important articles of his. There was a paralell also regarding Micheal Moore's site being systematically removed and manipulated within and from the google database. That case is also documented.

Posted by Taylor B. @ 11/14/2004 07:49 PM EST

Well, at least Vox is still around. I thought maybe he overdosed on heroin or something similar.

Posted by Flashlight @ 11/14/2004 07:57 PM EST

Did you hear about the locality where 600 people voted giving Bush 3460 votes.I need a bank account similar.

Posted by chaos theory @ 11/14/2004 09:02 PM EST

When it comes to Fallujah sell the house sell the car sell the kids. DROP THE BOMB!!!

Posted by Unknown Soldier @ 11/15/2004 06:21 PM EST

See http://www.rense.com/general59/93000extravotes.html . Make sure you read through to the end then blow your brains out.

Posted by unknown soldier @ 11/15/2004 06:57 PM EST

See http://www.rense.com/general59/93000extravotes.html . Make sure you read through to the end then blow your brains out.

Posted by unknown soldier @ 11/15/2004 06:59 PM EST

See http://www.rense.com/general59/93000extravotes.htm. Read through to the end.you guys were right . I'm a total loser.

Posted by unknown soldier @ 11/15/2004 07:04 PM EST

See http://www.rense.com/general59/93000extravotes.htm. Read through to the end.you guys were right . I'm a total loser.

Posted by unknown soldier @ 11/15/2004 07:07 PM EST

See http://www.rense.com/general59/93000extravotes.htm. Read through to the end.you guys were right . I'm a total loser.

Posted by unknown soldier @ 11/15/2004 07:07 PM EST

See http://www.rense.com/general59/93000extravotes.htm. Read through to the end.you guys were right . I'm a total loser.

Posted by unknown soldier @ 11/15/2004 07:07 PM EST

See http://www.rense.com/general59/93000extravotes.htm. Read through to the end.you guys were right . I'm a total loser.

Posted by unknown soldier @ 11/15/2004 07:07 PM EST

See http://www.rense.com/general59/93000extravotes.htm. Read through to the end.you guys were right . I'm a total loser.

Posted by unknown soldier @ 11/15/2004 07:07 PM EST

See http://www.rense.com/general59/93000extravotes.htm. Read through to the end.you guys were right . I'm a total loser.

Posted by unknown soldier @ 11/15/2004 07:07 PM EST

See http://www.rense.com/general59/93000extravotes.htm. Read through to the end.you guys were right . I'm a total loser.

Posted by unknown soldier @ 11/15/2004 07:07 PM EST

See http://www.rense.com/general59/93000extravotes.htm. Read through to the end.you guys were right . I'm a total loser.

Posted by unknown soldier @ 11/15/2004 07:07 PM EST

See http://www.rense.com/general59/93000extravotes.htm. Read through to the end.you guys were right . I'm a total loser.

Posted by unknown soldier @ 11/15/2004 07:07 PM EST

See http://www.rense.com/general59/93000extravotes.htm. Read through to the end.you guys were right . I'm a total loser.

Posted by unknown soldier @ 11/15/2004 07:07 PM EST

See http://www.rense.com/general59/93000extravotes.htm. Read through to the end.you guys were right . I'm a total loser.

Posted by unknown soldier @ 11/15/2004 07:07 PM EST

See http://www.rense.com/general59/93000extravotes.htm. read through to the end. you guys are right I'm a total loser.

Posted by unknown soldier @ 11/15/2004 07:12 PM EST

See http://www.rense.com/general59/93000extravotes.htm. read through to the end. You guys are right I'm a total loser.

Posted by unknown soldier @ 11/15/2004 07:12 PM EST

See http://www.rense.com/general59/93000extravotes.htm. read through to the end. You guys are right. I'm a total loser.

Posted by unknown soldier @ 11/15/2004 07:13 PM EST

Wow. So 666999 says that people who voted for Bush must be rich and just want big tax returns. But then he also says that Blue staters pay for all the red states welafare, etc.

How can both be true?

Hey, you dumb fuck? LEarn a little something about hte electoral college. Just because a state casts all its votes for Kerry does not mean that it is a democrat state.

Posted by The Accidenter @ 11/16/2004 05:28 AM EST

I am so tired of these liberal scum coming down from boston, vermont etc, drinking lattes and listening to air America while using their trust funds and government grants to displace working families in my neigborhood.

and they all look like those people in the "outfoxed" dvd.

seriously man why can't the US just send some mib's to voxfux and michael moores place and snap their necks already? I mean isn't the USA the most evil empire on this planet, according to voxfux?

bush won, hahahahahaha!!!

Posted by liberal scum @ 11/16/2004 05:43 AM EST

I am so tired of these liberal scum coming down from boston, vermont etc, drinking lattes and listening to air America while using their trust funds and government grants to displace working families in my neigborhood.

and they all look like those people in the "outfoxed" dvd.

seriously man why can't the US just send some mib's to voxfux and michael moores place and snap their necks already? I mean isn't the USA the most evil empire on this planet, according to voxfux?

bush won, hahahahahaha!!!

Posted by liberal scum @ 11/16/2004 05:45 AM EST

You all realize that if Bush and the admininstration did HALF of the things you claim they did, they would have killed all of you by now. NONE of your deaths would be noticed. You amount to nothing in this world. So why would they let you live?

My favroite comment is "Vox was not wrong. He revealed a plot, and that made the plot not happen." Classic.

If you really felt that way about Bush, you would shut up. Because a president like that would have you killed. You think you are anonymous? Nope. You trhink you could stop it from happening? Nope. You think anyone would make a fuss if you died? Nope. No one would notice until the mailman noticed a bad smell coming out of your basement studio apartments.

Posted by The Accidenter @ 11/16/2004 05:55 AM EST

Now accidenter, if you read what I said, Rich people in states like New Jersey and Connecticut who voted for Bush voted for BIG TAX RETURNS.

The reasons middle class people voted for Bush in RED STATES was:

1) FEAR
2) STUPIDITY
3) RELIGIOUS FANATICISM

That is a little hard for your hole-riddled brain to comprehend I see.

"LEarn a little something about hte electoral college. Just because a state casts all its votes for Kerry does not mean that it is a democrat state. "

Huh! Double-Speak I see. You just contradicted your self in your own sentence. If a state chooses Kerry, it is a DEMOCRAT vote. Duh! More prime examples of Bush-Backing intellects or lack thereof.

Posted by 666999 @ 11/16/2004 11:41 AM EST

Behold the Great and Terrible Vox:

Gee vox, you must be one busy guy! Not a peep out of you in the two months leading up to the (s)election (must have been polishing up that "cigarette" boat of yours that Alex Jones had such an enjoyable time tooling around in during the RNC) and you can't even bother to write an original article, but rather, post some inane drivel about non-linear thinking or whatever. Come on vox, at the very least you could have come up with another outlandish tale of some assault on your home or person by some shadowy government operative followed by the obligatory solicitation for support from the perpetually naive readers of your site.

Apparently, given the lack of response to my offer to conduct gratis a monthly "vox-poll," you're just after the cash. What a fucking loser you are! I'm so glad that you're bullshit was so readily discernable and that I was, in fact, admonished by you and your audience for "not sending a nickel." I wear that as a proverbial badge of honor.

As the saying goes: "if the Queen had balls she'd be King" and if you had any you would be too. Alas, the only one who ever showed any sack at all on this site insofar as stating a plan of action was your's truly. I will, however, make a final appeal to those of you reading this diatribe to "get up, stand up" and fucking do something to thwart the impending onslaught of the jack-booted masses. I have. If you're curious as to what I've done or what you yourself can do, just ask and I will respond (unless our buddy vox denies my access to this site once again).

Posted by John Galt @ 11/16/2004 01:16 PM EST

Pipe down John Galt, unknown soldier, accidenter whatever your name is. You obviously have a lot of time on your hands.

Vox: Why in the hell are you letting this scum infect your board?

Posted by Terrence @ 11/16/2004 02:32 PM EST

BECAUSE WE CAN!!!

Posted by Unknown Soldier @ 11/16/2004 02:35 PM EST

To describe the low lives know as Ungrown Toenail, Acciduncer, John Gallstone, and other specks a quote:

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has.
"

Posted by 666999 @ 11/16/2004 03:00 PM EST

Whatever 666999 Bush is still president and you are still a United Nation ass kissing liberal.

Posted by Unkown Soldier @ 11/16/2004 03:21 PM EST

The U.N will come to full strength within the next 10 years as the next world power. Then Armegedon.
Then peace.
You don't think god is
watching? He's knows what is going on and he has a plan. This is his planet.....not George Bush's or any other puny Human ruler or organization.

Posted by Thom Yorke @ 11/16/2004 03:52 PM EST

The U.N will come to full strength within the next 10 years as the next world power. Then Armegedon.
Then peace.
You don't think god is
watching? He's knows what is going on and he has a plan. This is his planet.....not George Bush's or any other puny Human ruler or organization.

Posted by Thom Yorke @ 11/16/2004 03:53 PM EST

To Thom Yorke,

Although I do not see "God" exactly the same as you, I agree.

Watch though, when Bush and his zombies have knocked off every Liberal, Pagan, Muslim, Constititonalist, Libertarian, True Christian, Gay, lesbian, and intellectual, you will see "Invaders from Outer Space". It is the last gambit for these increasingly desperate and insane people. Once the Neo-Cons defeat the aliens, then perhaps one more move....Inter-Dimensionals....Invaders from Inner Space. It's all smoke and mirrors in my opinion. God vs The Devil.....Christians vs Pagans.....Good vs Evil....Earthlings vs Aliens. Blue Book was the start of replacing traditional religion with "The Aliens".

They can keep replacing Cheney's heart with a cyborg heart, and he can continue to rip off the public for hundreds of years.

Oh, just for Shits and Giggles....

http://www.bushislord.com/

Posted by 666999 @ 11/16/2004 04:35 PM EST

You know you're all alone
Your friends they aren't at home
Everybody's gone to the garden
As you look into the trees
You can look but you don't see
The flowers seem to tease you at the garden
Everybody's there, but you don't seem to care
What's it with you man, and this
garden

TURNED INTO MY WORST PHOBIA,
A CRAZY MAN'S UTOPIA
IF YOU'RE LOST NO ONE CAN SHOW YA,
BUT IT SURE WAS GLAD TO KNOW YA
ONLY POOR BOYS TAKE A CHANCE,
ON THE GARDEN'S SONG AND DANCE,
FEEL HER FLOWERS AS THEY WRAP AROUND,
BUT ONLY SMART BOYS DO WITHOUT

You can find it all inside
No need to wrestle with your pride
No you ain't losin' your mind
You're just in the garden
They can lead you to yourself
Or you can throw it on the shelf
But you know you can look inside
For the garden

I WASN'T REALLY SCARED
LOST MY VIRGINITY THERE,
TO A GYPSY WITH BLOND HAIR
BUT NOW NO ONE SEEMS TO CARE
LIKE A MOUSE INSIDE A MAZE
WANDERING ROUND 4 DAZE
WITH A SMILE UPON MY FACE,
I NEVER WANNA LEAVE THIS PLACE
ONLY POOR BOYS TAKE A CHANCE,
ON THE GARDEN'S SONG AND DANCE,
FEEL HER FLOWERS AS THEY WRAP AROUND,
BUT ONLY SMART BOYS DO WITHOUT
TURNED INTO MY WORST PHOBIA,
A CRAZY MAN'S UTOPIA
IF YOU'RE LOST NO ONE CAN SHOW YA,
BUT IT SURE WAS GLAD TO KNOW YA
BYE BYE
SO LONG, BYE BYE
IT'S GLAD TO KNOW YA
BYE BYE
BYE BYE
AW...SO LONG

Posted by Unknown Soldier @ 11/16/2004 04:50 PM EST

Guns and Roses....What a Shit band that is! Ugh!!

Posted by Gums of Moses @ 11/16/2004 05:26 PM EST

In Fallujah there is not on military victory the insurgents can win. That is what twist the librerals knickers in a knot.

Posted by Unknown Soldier @ 11/16/2004 06:28 PM EST

wow, a reference to negativland...

Christianity is Stupid...Communism is Good...

Posted by lanton @ 11/18/2004 12:17 AM EST

In Fallujah there is not on military victory the insurgents can win. That is what twist the librerals knickers in a knot. <--- Isn't that what some people said about Vietnam?

Posted by Adrian @ 11/18/2004 06:54 AM EST

n Fallujah there is not on military victory the insurgents can win. That is what twist the librerals knickers in a knot.

Isn't that what some people said about vietnam??

Posted by Adrian @ 11/18/2004 06:58 AM EST

In Fallujah there is not on military victory the insurgents can win. That is what twist the librerals knickers in a knot.

Posted by Adrian @ 11/18/2004 07:07 AM EST

Yo lanton,

The Letter U and the Numeral 2.

I predict that the USA will go running out of Iraq just like the Mongols and Khan. One Point Two Billion Arabs HATE America now. You can't win their "Hearts and Minds" by killing their women and children. This is on top of the fact that the Bush crew just raised the deby ceiling to approxiamtely $8 trillion. If China, Saudi Arabia, Germany, Japan, and France alone stop loaning the USA money, there goes $5 trillion, and America becomes officially a Banana Repulican State. So when the Knothead Freepers, and some Crustceans here hate all those countries, remember they are holding the USA by the testicles.

Posted by 666999 @ 11/18/2004 09:08 AM EST

First of all Arabs posess no hearts and minds to win. They are 14th century antiquated thinkers. Second of all China, Saudi Arabia, Germany, Japan and that shithole France does not support the United States and our 11 TRILLION dollar economy. If we cut trade with China their economy would collapse over night and the price of oil would go spiraling downward. So no one is holding America by the testicles. You hate America first crowd are so blinded with hate for America that you come up with these little flights of fantasy of how America will crash and burn.

Posted by Unknown Soldier @ 11/18/2004 12:05 PM EST

Typical Neo-Con lying and fabrications.

1) That is an OPINION that Arabs have no hearts and minds. My opinion is Ungrown Soldier has neither. You are a rascist scum, as evidenced by your response. You're doing good in exposing yourself, and the people you worship, like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the rest of those killer clowns.
2) Uh, China is trading in Euros, not dollars. much like 80% of the planet. Even England, USA's good comrade trades in Euros, as does Russia. Companies like Intel have their sites on China, not the USA as the next huge economy. That $11 trillion economy is being funded by the same countries you despise. All the USA companies are abandoning your country. Read all the economists. The Oil and Defense companies cannot prop the economy up forever. This is BushCo's "Perpertual War". Perpetual funds form those two industries. Now, you Little wet-behind-the-ears brat. Get your facts straight.
3) If the economy is so strong, why the constant debt ceiling rising, and why the $600 billion deficit? All you Neo-Cons made tons of money when Clinton was in, and enjoyed it thoroughly. This is why the low IQ states voted for Bush. They have this Mom and Apple pie view of AmeriKKKa, with John Wayne killin' "Injuns" or any other "Lower Form of Life", tempered by insane Christo-Fascism. A deadly brew that will be implding VERY soon. Enjoy it while you can.
4) Your country can be saved if True Patriots, Trues Liberals, True Christians, and True Conservatives can convince the fence walkers that your Constitution and country have been hijacked by Neo-Cons and Zionists. BTW, most of the countries you hate, could care less what the USA thinks of them, especially Sweden, Norway, germany, etc. You are ajoke.Believe me, and they have plenty of "Freedom" there. The European Union and Asia Union will do more than counter-balance the USA's military and deck of cards economy.

Posted by 66699 @ 11/18/2004 04:38 PM EST

To topic #1 if I was a racist scum like you made me out to be I would be using terms like your previous point when you call people red neck scum.
Topic #2 your ignorant for China trades with Yen not Euros again like Voxfux you are wrong.
Issue #3 if you watched (which I doubt because you are in some third world shit country) the Clinton library opening when Bono (from U2) thanked Clinton for forgiving 3rd world debt from 27 3rd world countries.
On issue #4 when we get done beating the Muslim man into submission we will not hesitate going after the son Israel. The lesser of the 2 evils right now is Israel. The true enemy of USA is the Muslims which get our full attention.

Posted by Unknown Soldier @ 11/18/2004 05:24 PM EST

First of all Arabs posess no hearts and minds to win. They are 14th century antiquated thinkers. Second of all China, Saudi Arabia, Germany, Japan and that shithole France does not support the United States and our 11 TRILLION dollar economy. If we cut trade with China their economy would collapse over night and the price of oil would go spiraling downward. So no one is holding America by the testicles. You hate America first crowd are so blinded with hate for America that you come up with these little flights of fantasy of how America will crash and burn. <--- you do realize that should the OPEC oil exchange standard continue to move from the Dollar to the Euro there will be significant negative consequences for America. Hence the decision to invade Iraq after they changed to the Euro. Other OPEC nations are going to follow this trend, including venezuela where the president is under pressure to do so. This was is about Oil economics that the oil itself. And to assume that America can't or won't crash and burn at some point is a little short-sighted considering this was the fate of all past superpowers and empires.

Posted by Adrian @ 11/19/2004 03:53 AM EST

To Ungrown Toenail,

#1- Redneck is a choice, not a race, so again you are incorrect.

#2 - China trades internationally in Euros, not dollars. Yen is their domestic monetary fund. Wrong Again!

3# - When I saw Bono wrapping himself in the flag, I knew he was an asskiss. Clinton was involved with some pretty crooked events in his term also, such as Waco, WTC1, Kosovo, etc. People like yourself automatically assume that if someone loathes Bush, they must be a Democrat or living in a "Third Word Country". The USA is 13th on the list of most favorable countries to live in. Why are not Norwegians and Swedes not flocking to your shores?

#4 - Wow! Something we ALMOST agree upon. Israel is public enemy #1 as far as I'm concerned. Public enemy #2 is the Neo-Cons in the USA. After that it is ass-kissers like Blair and Putin, who absolutely DO NOT reflect the feeeling towards AmeriKKKa that the rest of their countries have. Face the facts Ungrown, America is hated, not admired right now. Just as your president is by 1/2 the country. I doubt you can force your warped version of "Demon-ocracy" on the rest of the world. Also, very bad for business. As Adrian said, the fate of ALL empires is destruction. With the Morphogenic acceleration of time that is occuring, this should not take as long as some predictions.

Posted by 666999 @ 11/19/2004 09:41 AM EST

Personally I think voxfux is dead and the only reason this website as many others, is open is to collect all your names. Because homeland security,is not particularly bright or not particular, cyborgs like unknown soldier and accidenter will be rounded up too. you'll get to meet. I live in Canada or not, maybe Russia so I don,t give a shit. But you people should take precautions because when It comes to Bush I believe in the chaos theory - whatever can happen will happe- that way there are no surprises. Having said that I love you people. You are my brothers. There is just one more thing. I don't know how people can lie so much and so often and for so long and still keep a straight face but bush went through the whole born again christian experience just to get their vote for president because he knew that was the only way he could get the key votes to get elected and it worked like clockwork.

Posted by chaos theory @ 11/19/2004 11:26 PM EST

Personally I think voxfux is dead and the only reason this website as many others, is open is to collect all your names. Because homeland security,is not particularly bright or not particular, cyborgs like unknown soldier and accidenter will be rounded up too. you'll get to meet. I live in Canada or not, maybe Russia so I don,t give a shit. But you people should take precautions because when It comes to Bush I believe in the chaos theory - whatever can happen will happe- that way there are no surprises. Having said that I love you people. You are my brothers. There is just one more thing. I don't know how people can lie so much and so often and for so long and still keep a straight face but bush went through the whole born again christian experience just to get their vote for president because he knew that was the only way he could get the key votes to get elected and it worked like clockwork.(not the genuine born again christian experience but a a wolf in sheeps clothing)

Posted by chaos theory @ 11/19/2004 11:28 PM EST

Personally I think voxfux is dead and the only reason this website as many others, is open is to collect all your names. Because homeland security,is not particularly bright or not particular, cyborgs like unknown soldier and accidenter will be rounded up too. you'll get to meet. I live in Canada or not, maybe Russia so I don,t give a shit. But you people should take precautions because when It comes to Bush I believe in the chaos theory - whatever can happen will happe- that way there are no surprises. Having said that I love you people. You are my brothers. There is just one more thing. I don't know how people can lie so much and so often and for so long and still keep a straight face but bush went through the whole born again christian experience just to get their vote for president because he knew that was the only way he could get the key votes to get elected and it worked like clockwork.(not the genuine born again christian experience but as a wolf in sheeps clothing)

Posted by chaos theory @ 11/19/2004 11:28 PM EST

Haha unknown soldier,

you got owned dude

Posted by Adrian @ 11/20/2004 12:13 AM EST

Here is an exchange between the Chinese ambassador and a reporter:

"

TexasHedge: Mr. Ambassador, we would like to ask you a question regarding your currency reserves. The huge pile of U.S. Dollars your country has accumulated as a result of its trade surplus with America has been reinvested time and time again in U.S. Treasuries and GSE debt. We know that there is a tremendous amount of international pressure on your country to revalue the Yuan; but we understand why you hesitate to do so because this could cause your domestic economy to slow and unemployment to rise. We also know that your country, which is facing a shortage of several critical natural resources, has recently established a strategic petroleum reserve. So our question is why you don't diversify your foreign reserves out of dollar-denominated treasuries and into other stores of value such as Euros, Francs, gold, silver, oil, aluminum and steel?

Yang Jiechi: (Paraphrasing) Our goal with our exchange rate and economy is to move to more market-oriented policies over time. But you must understand that many companies in China are owned by American and other foreign entities. Furthermore, the Dollars that China accumulates are re-invested back into U.S. Treasuries, which is good for America. You also should know that while China enjoys a surplus with the United States, we have large trade deficits with many of our Asian neighbors. But to answer your question regarding diversification out of dollars, we are moving in that direction."

Chaos Theory,

Vox is alive and well. He is in a recent video with Alex Jones. True, AmeriKKKa is becoming a Christo-Fascist State, and Living anywhere else except Iraq is safer. The reverse of 1932 Germany for Einstein.

Posted by 666999 @ 11/20/2004 10:42 AM EST

hello 666999
where would i find that video?

Posted by Terrence @ 11/21/2004 03:42 AM EST

The USA is losing business all he time man people all over the world are boycotting US products I myself did that years ago simply because I don't want the crap I want high quality products - the U.S. are still intent on forcing Nazi police states on the world - so called war on terror that the USA manufacturered decades ago telling Iraq what countries to attack with U.S. weapons NOW the U.S. attack Iraq with chemical warfare.

It is definately certain more and more people hate America for what they do to the world - so many of you are rainwashed to even think Democracy exists look up national records to see that Bush has Nazi links as other previous presidents - New World Order / Illuminati / World Government are all things the Nazi wanted Hilter himself wanted even had a book from Hilter called New Order and videos where he speaks of a New World Order - now most Nazis are in the USA they are doing just that - Europe / RUSSIA / CHINA will crush you and in any case you will crumble on your own if you carry on liek this - you owe trillions to China = Central Kingdom China will be the richest nation once again - Russia is the world largest oil producer and the Kremlin is taking control of it all so the US cant get hold of it.

Peace through war err that is not possible and no peace will ever be left behind all you wanted was US domination in the middle east and oil.

Posted by Nemesis @ 11/21/2004 10:31 AM EST

Oh you guys must know that the CIA employed Bin Laden years ago. Evidence does exist proving that Bush allowed and authorised the attacks on the WTC's on 9/11

Posted by Nemesis @ 11/21/2004 10:43 AM EST

Hi Terrance,

Here is Vox and Alex. You'll have to open Windows Media Player if you have a Mac, and put this URL in. It probably will open stright into Windows, but have tested it there yet.

They strangely remind me of Jesus and his disciples. Alex kicks the psychic crap out of Neil Boortz in this video also.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/video/9-11_vox.wmv

Posted by 666999 @ 11/21/2004 12:47 PM EST

sorry 666999, you are the one that looks like a fucking idiot in this exchange. Any fucking moron who talks about the red state/blue state myth is just that. A fucking moron. Bush got over 25 million votes from "blue states". KErry got over 20 million votes from red states. Once again, there is no such thing as red states and blue states.

But then again, everyone already knows you are an immature idiot anyway. Look at your posts. I think when I was 9 years old I used to think that twisting around someone's name to make a word like dunce or something meant that I won the argument. But again, that was when I was 9 years old.

Posted by The Accidenter @ 11/23/2004 03:31 AM EST

Now Acci-DUNCE, I.....Will.....repeat...this....only...once...since....for....the.......learning...impaired...ZzzzzzDuh....Gasp!!! HUH???

BLUE STATES

KERRY 31,269,280
BUSH 25,895,830

That....was....hard....wasn't....it?

Red States.....Lower average IQ

Red States.....Higher divorce rate

Red States....Receive more federal aid than they put in..Opposite in all categories for Blue States

Conclusion....Red States are mostly stupid, Frightened, uninformed, Religious Fanatics, who watch Chrsitian Porn all week, confess on Saturday, then do it all over again the next week. Then going to the rodeo or watching football is the most exciting thing that occurs between watching Jesus Fuck Mary Magdeline and Roping Goats.

The name of the Sub Species you belong to is called......Boobus Americanus!!!

Posted by 666999 @ 11/23/2004 03:42 PM EST

The average southern American is the most retarded creature to ever crawl out of the primordial swamp. Sad their social conditioning has destroyed their human capabilities for reasonable thinking.

Posted by Adrian @ 11/24/2004 12:49 AM EST

Yes Adrian,

The "Red State" mentality proves the theory of De-Evolution conclusively. I feel sorry for the smarter people surrounded by so many Knuckle-Scrapping Cro-Magnons in those in-bred states. In the more intelligent and higher IQ Blue States, the Bushies are not so stupid, as they want a big tax refund, and the hell with destroying the US's Constitution. BTW, here is some of the components of Patriot Act 2, the final coffin nails to the Bill of Rights:

SECTION 501 (Expatriation of Terrorists) expands the Bush administration's "enemy combatant" definition to all American citizens who "may" have violated any provision of Section 802 of the first Patriot Act. (Section 802 is the new definition of domestic terrorism, and the definition is "any action that endangers human life that is a violation of any Federal or State law.") Section 501 of the second Patriot Act directly connects to Section 125 of the same act. The Justice Department boldly claims that the incredibly broad Section 802 of the First USA Patriot Act isn't broad enough and that a new, unlimited definition of terrorism is needed.

Under Section 501 a US citizen engaging in lawful activities can be grabbed off the street and thrown into a van never to be seen again. The Justice Department states that they can do this because the person "had inferred from conduct" that they were not a US citizen. Remember Section 802 of the First USA Patriot Act states that any violation of Federal or State law can result in the "enemy combatant" terrorist designation.

SECTION 201 of the second Patriot Act makes it a criminal act for any member of the government or any citizen to release any information concerning the incarceration or whereabouts of detainees. It also states that law enforcement does not even have to tell the press who they have arrested and they never have to release the names.

SECTION 301 and 306 (Terrorist Identification Database) set up a national database of "suspected terrorists" and radically expand the database to include anyone associated with suspected terrorist groups and anyone involved in crimes or having supported any group designated as "terrorist." These sections also set up a national DNA database for anyone on probation or who has been on probation for any crime, and orders State governments to collect the DNA for the Federal government.

SECTION 312 gives immunity to law enforcement engaging in spying operations against the American people and would place substantial restrictions on court injunctions against Federal violations of civil rights across the board.

SECTION 101 will designate individual terrorists as foreign powers and again strip them of all rights under the "enemy combatant" designation.

SECTION 102 states clearly that any information gathering, regardless of whether or not those activities are illegal, can be considered to be clandestine intelligence activities for a foreign power. This makes news gathering illegal.

SECTION 103 allows the Federal government to use wartime martial law powers domestically and internationally without Congress declaring that a state of war exists.

SECTION 106 is bone-chilling in its straightforwardness. It states that broad general warrants by the secret FSIA court (a panel of secret judges set up in a star chamber system that convenes in an undisclosed location) granted under the first Patriot Act are not good enough. It states that government agents must be given immunity for carrying out searches with no prior court approval. This section throws out the entire Fourth Amendment against unreasonable searches and seizures.

SECTION 109 allows secret star chamber courts to issue contempt charges against any individual or corporation who refuses to incriminate themselves or others. This sections annihilate the last vestiges of the Fifth Amendment.

SECTION 110 restates that key police state clauses in the first Patriot Act were not sunsetted and removes the five year sunset clause from other subsections of the first Patriot Act. After all, the media has told us: "This is the New America. Get used to it. This is forever."

SECTION 111 expands the definition of the "enemy combatant" designation.

SECTION 122 restates the government's newly announced power of "surveillance without a court order."

SECTION 123 restates that the government no longer needs warrants and that the investigations can be a giant dragnet-style sweep described in press reports about the Total Information Awareness Network. One passage reads, "thus the focus of domestic surveillance may be less precise than that directed against more conventional types of crime."

*Note: Over and over again, in subsection after subsection, the second Patriot Act states that its new Soviet-type powers will be used to fight international terrorism, domestic terrorism and other types of crimes. Of course the government has already announced in Section 802 of the first USA Patriot act that any crime is considered domestic terrorism.

SECTION 126 grants the government the right to mine the entire spectrum of public and private sector information from bank records to educational and medical records. This is the enacting law to allow ECHELON and the Total Information Awareness Network to break down any and all walls of privacy. The government states that they must look at everything to "determine" if individuals or groups might have a connection to terrorist groups. As you can now see, you are guilty until proven innocent.

SECTION 127 allows the government to takeover coroners' and medical examiners' operations whenever they see fit. See how this is like Bill Clinton's special medical examiner he had in Arkansas that ruled that people had committed suicide when their arms and legs had been cut off.

SECTION 128 allows the Federal government to place gag orders on Federal and State Grand Juries and to take over the proceedings. It also disallows individuals or organizations to even try to quash a Federal subpoena. So now defending yourself will be a terrorist action.

SECTION 129 destroys any remaining whistle blower protection for Federal agents.

SECTION 202 allows corporations to keep secret their activities with toxic biological, chemical or radiological materials.

SECTION 205 allows top Federal officials to keep all their financial dealings secret, and anyone investigating them can be considered a terrorist. This should be very useful for Dick Cheney to stop anyone investigating Haliburton.

SECTION 303 sets up national DNA database of suspected terrorists. The database will also be used to "stop other unlawful activities." It will share the information with state, local and foreign agencies for the same purposes.

SECTION 311 federalizes your local police department in the area of information sharing.

SECTION 313 provides liability protection for businesses, especially big businesses that spy on their customers for Homeland Security, violating their privacy agreements. It goes on to say that these are all preventative measures - has anyone seen Minority Report? This is the access hub for the Total Information Awareness Network.

SECTION 321 authorizes foreign governments to spy on the American people and to share information with foreign governments.

SECTION 322 removes Congress from the extradition process and allows officers of the Homeland Security complex to extradite American citizens anywhere they wish. It also allows Homeland Security to secretly take individuals out of foreign countries.

SECTION 402 is titled "Providing Material Support to Terrorism." The section reads that there is no requirement to show that the individual even had the intent to aid terrorists.

SECTION 403 expands the definition of weapons of mass destruction to include any activity that affects interstate or foreign commerce.

SECTION 404 makes it a crime for a terrorist or "other criminals" to use encryption in the commission of a crime.

SECTION 408 creates "lifetime parole" (basically, slavery) for a whole host of crimes.

SECTION 410 creates no statute of limitations for anyone that engages in terrorist actions or supports terrorists. Remember: any crime is now considered terrorism under the first Patriot Act.

SECTION 411 expands crimes that are punishable by death. Again, they point to Section 802 of the first Patriot Act and state that any terrorist act or support of terrorist act can result in the death penalty.

SECTION 421 increases penalties for terrorist financing. This section states that any type of financial activity connected to terrorism will result to time in prison and $10-50,000 fines per violation.

SECTION 427 sets up asset forfeiture provisions for anyone engaging in terrorist activities. There are many other sections that I did not cover in the interest of time. The American people were shocked by the despotic nature of the first Patriot Act. The second Patriot Act dwarfs all police state legislation in modern world history.

Posted by 666999 @ 11/24/2004 10:30 AM EST

this site has become a total joke. "vox" has posted nothing in the past year. but for some reason you people are still here.. move on this site is old and dead. whoever vox was or is he has no plan of action at this point hes about as active as a flat can of soda...find a new outlet people...peace

Posted by yoyoma @ 11/24/2004 05:33 PM EST

this site has become a total joke. "vox" has posted nothing in the past year. but for some reason you people are still here.. move on this site is old and dead. whoever vox was or is he has no plan of action at this point hes about as active as a flat can of soda...find a new outlet people...peace

Posted by yoyoma @ 11/24/2004 05:34 PM EST

this site is dead "vox" hasnt posted shit in the past year. but for some reason you people are still here. whoever vox was or is he has no plan of action anymore. hes about as active as a can of flat soda...move on ....peace

Posted by yoyoma @ 11/24/2004 05:37 PM EST

this site is dead "vox" hasnt posted shit in the past year. but for some reason you people are still here. whoever vox was or is he has no plan of action anymore. hes about as active as a can of flat soda...move on ....peace

Posted by yoyoma @ 11/24/2004 05:38 PM EST

666999, its easy to see why these measures were enacted into law.Its because they intend to use every last one of them. America, get your conciousness around that, and stop supporting these same people who make Hitler look like a Sunday school teacher.Just as no one could have envisioned the slaughters of WW1 and WW2 until they actually happened so today no one can envision the hell America is descending into. The real descent will happen overnight with the imposition of martial law and the activation of the death and torture camps.

Posted by chaos theory @ 11/24/2004 08:57 PM EST

Five Star Trust, Houston

Ties Bush to Saudis, helps Bush rig elections.

See what you can find out

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/112504Madsen/112504madsen.html

Posted by Anon @ 11/25/2004 08:31 AM EST

The most fearless, in-your-face man on the internet takes a "sabbatical?"

Rest in peace, Voxfux.

Posted by Thorstein Veblen @ 11/25/2004 06:19 PM EST

The most fearless, in-your-face man on the internet takes a "sabbatical?"

Rest in peace, Voxfux.

Posted by Thorstein Veblen @ 11/25/2004 06:21 PM EST

To 666999

#1 To use the word "Red Neck" is like using the word "Nigger" both are lifestyle choice not a race but we know who gets labeled what.

#2 China does not trade internationally in Euros nor do they trade internationally in Dollars they trade in Yuen. I am glad to see you went back and did your homework on China's currency after you made your incorrect statement "2) Uh, China is trading in Euros" I knew you meant they value their currency against the Euro and not the Dollar which is also incorrect because the Chinese Yuen is still valued against the dollar.

#3 You are out of your mind if you think I am going to take sides and argue for Bono but the fact still remains the same that America has forgiven bad debt for 27 countries around the world. That is more than the whole European Union has ever done.

The European Union is a joke it is being bullied by one man Jacques Chirac who is knee deep into money theft with his step-and-fetch-it pal Kopi Anan. They helped Saddam steal 21 billion from the food for oil program and that whole dismal European Union (except for Blair) turned a blind eye and let the children of Iraq starve as Saddam built palaces. What a noble union. Then when all these so called Human rights groups (code for let's pick on America and ignore all other atrocities) got in on the picture for 10 years blamed America for the starving children in Iraq the European Union slept. Except for Chirac he lined his pockets.

Posted by Unknown Soldier @ 11/26/2004 02:35 PM EST

Yes unknown soldier, politicians are arseholes everywhere, no one's disagreeing with that :)

Posted by Adrian @ 11/27/2004 03:09 AM EST

Gee I think as a blue eyed red haired man i might make the lifestyle choice to be a nigger... what the fuck?

and by the way, regardless of whether that oil-for food thing is true or not, your going way ahead of one point. That point is that that the oil for food program should never have been established, it shouldn't have been established because America shouldn;t have invaded iraq and applied sanctions, and they shouldn't have invaded iraq because they shouldn't have given saddam permission to invade kuwait in the first place!.

Posted by Adrian @ 11/27/2004 03:18 AM EST

Yeah unknown soldier, all these so called 'political leaders' are right old scumbags eh?

The only difference between you and the others that post here is that we choose not to bow at the feet of these almighty noble ones.

Posted by Adrian @ 11/27/2004 08:18 AM EST

Lucky the Ukraine elections rolled along we wouldn't have had a diversion from the biggest electoral fraud in world history right her in the land of the free.What a coincidence.Mmmm. Guess who had their finger in the Ukraine so called fiasco -pie. Its all about mind control. And its all over us like a web.

Posted by chaos theory @ 11/29/2004 01:38 AM EST