08/19/2002 Entry: "All Evidence Now Fake"

All US "Evidence" Now Fraudulent
Everything the US population is being told is a lie - Everything.
by voxfux

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It is safe to say that EVERY piece of evidence that the US has presented in it's case against the "Terrorists" is completely fabricated. From the Terrorist manuals to all the incidental stories regarding the terrorist's activities leading up to the attack, to flight training schools in Florida, to the fraudulent Bin Laden "Confession" video and now the fraudulent dog murder tape. The so called news organization CNN is undoubtedly a CIA front operation and little more - A conduit of government propaganda - A tool for the suppression of truth decency - A mechanism for the destruction of the human soul. That is what CNN is and nothing more.

In the war on common decency and truth, the latest fraudulent "Evidence" manufactured by the US based clandestine groups responsible for the WTC attacks, demonstrates how brazen these forces are and how deep the deception really is. It is now safe to say that nearly 100% of all news on CNN is completely fabricated, with one goal - To propagandize the American people into a war frenzy. The latest victim of the US war on truth and decency is a dog. Designed to hit the bull’s-eye of the American psyche - The dog killing that the US based "Public Relations Firm/Covert Assassination Hit Squad" performed and made to look like Osama Bin Laden did it, is the most brazen, obvious, psy-op seen since the attacks. But for a population whose critical faculty has been completely obliterated, such dog murders are potent population control methodologies.

John Gilbert, a "chemical weapons expert" at the CIA front company, Science Applications International Corporation in Washington, dropped this fear bomb in to the media LieScape: "The first impression I had is that it's a test or a demonstration of a very powerful and quick-acting chemical that behaves like a nerve agent, such as sarin, which was used in the Tokyo subway terrorism attacks in the 1990s.

But Frederick Sidell, an expert, who formerly worked at the US army's chemical defense research centre, told the New York Times that he doubted the chemical used was sarin or cyanide, and pointed out that it was unclear whether the dogs actually died in the experiments.

Here's what the filth down at CIA... er... I mean CNN-LieNews wrote about the new "Evidence":
CNN Story-Disturbing Evidence of Al Queda, Dog Gassings

Now here's What Really Happened: http://people.msoe.edu/~taylorm/mirror/www.whatreallyhappened.com/lindex.html

Viewer Commentary: 25 comments

Well I must say, this whole dog killing videos there were "found" so long after 9/11 just shows you how long it took them to manifacture those tapes and how they are preparing the mind of the american people to what's coming to them in the coming months - it is only sad that CNN is the front - they sure do have good people working for them... although most of them do not know themselves who are they working for... sad, even sadder then the dog they killed for the purpose..

Posted by Oriya @ 08/19/2002 09:11 PM EST

I wonder if bird dogs have become a popular breed in mid-east desert region.

Posted by Incredulous @ 08/20/2002 01:15 AM EST

That dog so obviously doesn't look like a dog living in the Middle East, people in that part of the world are not know for their kindness towards animals. Apart from anything else it's against Islam to harm an animal but that dog looks well-fed and cared for. I watch CNN and feel a great swell of pity for the sheeple of the USA.

Posted by codshit @ 08/20/2002 02:06 AM EST

Someone posted this site on a web BBS site that i visit. I think the person that runs this site is either a Muslim extremist or someone with a very active imagination.

There is no American Conspiracy here. Just radical islam trying to convince people in America that our Government is blowing smoke to convince us that this is all Some kind of fabrication. Im not saying our Government doesnt lie. I know all Governments do,But i seriouslly doubt the USA/CIA/FBI is responsible for blowing up 2 of its largest buildings and killing 3000 Americans to have reason to invade the middle east for its oil or to get support to take over the middle east. And the conspiracy theory that these dogs are to well fed and to groomed for this area shows that its in America and not Afghanistan is bull because that dog is clearly a puppy. And has its baby fur which apears to be nicely groomed but in fact most puppies are well fed by their mothers and often groomed by the mother.

Posted by tr0g from totse.com @ 08/20/2002 01:04 PM EST

we have analyzed the puppy photo, as well as other frames captured on the "gassing" and here's what we found -

the shadow, behind the dog, does not correspond at ALL to the overall contour of the dog's image on the top layer.
It was as if it was Photoshop doctored.
If you look closely on the photo, you can see that there is a white streak - a disturbance in the shadow, something which obviousely CAN NOT and does NOT occur naturally.

Posted by Eli Taranto @ 08/21/2002 02:00 AM EST

Welcome to the information war.....aka WWIII.

Posted by NaTaS @ 08/21/2002 04:40 AM EST

Eli, and we never landed on the moon either. That is the silliest argument yet. If the CIA wanted to pull off some crap like this they wouldnt think twice about killing an actual dog or even going to that area of the world to do it. If the CIA is gonna pull a scam like this they will in fact go to Afghanistan, hire afghan rebels and have them murder the dog. They would have known that a golden retriever is not native to that area and would not have wasted plane space to bring over a well bred dog. they would have just grabbed one from a villiage to gas. this is way to silly to argue. Now if you want to argue that CNN faked these for their own self interest, Then I could buy that. As a matter of fact the person who claims to have gotten the tapes admited to CNN yesterday that he in fact payed for them when he denied it in the first place.

Posted by tr0g @ 08/21/2002 10:34 AM EST

its not really about the afghan rebels, its about the dog, and the bottom line is it looks way too cute, im sorry i just don't buy it.
You really think if its really Al Qaida in that video, they would scower the lands for the cutest puppy in Kabul? If they are testing weapons, it really wouldnt matter how the dog looks - what matters is the effect on the physiology of a mammal. Yet For SOME reason they found Toto and gassed him, and then someone "found the tapes".

Posted by Eli @ 08/22/2002 03:15 AM EST

dats my doggie, i wondered where he went. he was a berry good muslim doggie who willingly gave his life for the cause against the western devils, praise allah! good doggie.

Posted by abdul akmhn kampur @ 08/22/2002 01:42 PM EST

Anyone has knowledge of Islam knows that animal cruelty is strictly forbidden and kindness to animals is rewarded by God in the religion. There are two famous traditions that I'll let you look up for yourselves. In a nutshell, 1) a woman who starved a cat to death was banished to hell and 2) a man who went down a well to get water to quench the thirst of a very thirsty dog, his sins were forgiven and he was admitted to heaven on account of this good deed (though dogs are considered unclean and not allowed to live inside the homes of Muslims). The doggy tape is pure sensationalist propaganda.

Posted by Shockwave @ 08/22/2002 11:56 PM EST

Yeah, Shockwave, and Islam is a religion of peace.


Posted by Infidel @ 08/24/2002 05:48 AM EST

Yeah, Shockwave, and Islam is a religion of peace.


Posted by Infidel @ 08/24/2002 05:53 AM EST

Yeah, Shockwave, and Islam is a religion of peace.


Posted by Infidel @ 08/24/2002 05:58 AM EST

What do we do? How do we wake up our nieghbors? They are all sleeping.

Posted by Sara Jameson @ 08/24/2002 07:11 AM EST

I served in the British Consulate-
General's Office in Khandahar (the spelling I was taught)during the 70's & 80's and am very familiar with the environs near and about that city. First, the dog depicted in the photo/tape bears typical characteristics of Afghan street dogs (pale color, thin tail, & droopy ears). Second, while the dog is obviously young (possibly selected young so it would be more sensitive to any toxic agent)it is still the frame-size of the typical Afghan dog. Third, the shoes of the men in the early frames of the tape were, to me, unmistakably those of Afghan manufacture. My conclusion -- based on those details and others -- is that the tape cannot be disproved as genuine.

Posted by Reggie Wagstaff @ 08/25/2002 11:42 PM EST

I served in the British Consulate-
General's Office in Khandahar (the spelling I was taught)during the 70's & 80's and am very familiar with the environs near and about that city. First, the dog depicted in the photo/tape bears typical characteristics of Afghan street dogs (pale color, thin tail, & droopy ears). Second, while the dog is obviously young (possibly selected young so it would be more sensitive to any toxic agent)it is still the frame-size of the typical Afghan dog. Third, the shoes of the men in the early frames of the tape were, to me, unmistakably those of Afghan manufacture. My conclusion -- based on those details and others -- is that the tape cannot be disproved as genuine.

Posted by Reggie Wagstaff @ 08/25/2002 11:42 PM EST

I do not wish to believe that People are so stupid as to actually give credence to this puppy dog propaganda.

I do not know who to feel sorry for, the dead dog, or the brain dead people.

Americans: WAKE UP!

Your freedoms are almost gone.

Muslims are not your enemy.

Your enemy is your government.

Most people hate your government because your government has been abusing them for many years.

Now Americans are being abused and enslaved by their own government.

Your Government is making America one big concentration camp.

Your fascist government and its media are controlling what ever is left of your minds.

Solution simple: FIGHT BACK or remain sitting in front of your TV while you loose EVERYTHING!

Get rid of your Government before they get rid of you.

Posted by Dont Give Up @ 08/26/2002 04:20 AM EST

Dear Reggie Wagstaff or should you be called Reggie Wagthedogstaff. I’m sure for the same price it cost your people to make the fake puppy dog tapes I could make a counterfeit video showing you, wearing a puppy dog costume, fornicating with the British Consulate General atop a long sharp stick standing over the empire state building.

Who do you work for? Oh that's right, you said that you ''served the British Consulate''. It appears that you have continued to serve them.

The people of America and those reading this web site are searching for the TRUTH. Please be a good doggie; Go fetch a bone don’t insult the readers of this site with your dissionformation. .

Posted by Looking For Truth @ 08/26/2002 05:05 AM EST


By John Loeffler
August 21, 2002
Americans have enjoyed so much freedom for so long, they have forgotten that freedom is a fluke in the history of the world; not the norm. Our freedoms were hard-won over hundreds of years of human tears. The current view that freedoms are somehow self-sustaining and "obvious" ignores a primary rule of the political universe, well established in human history: governments and those in them always gravitate toward power, money and control; power for themselves, confiscating money and property from their people, who then have to be controlled lest they protest too much.
The founding fathers thoroughly understood this, having experienced a lack of protections first hand. They understood that government is a necessary evil, not a paternalistic good. In assembling the Constitution, they knew that only a clear statement of citizens’ rights would prevent power money and control from having their way.
Every one of our rights was established to protect individual citizens, the minority against the majority and to block abuse of power. "Shall not be infringed" was designed to prevent government encroachment; not as a guide for a "delicate balance" between "liberty" and "security." Delicate balances always collapse uni-directionally toward power, money and control and away from individual freedom!
Lessons from the Looking Glass
Since 911, conservatives have been falling all over themselves to blow gaping holes in constitutional protections, demonizing those who object as giving aid and comfort to the enemy. "This is a war," they rant, "and we’re defending freedom!" Now catch the illogic of this: We are going to protect freedom by demolishing the very legal protections that guarantee it.
In 1933 Germany faced a crisis. The country had just come through a horrible post-World War I decade of economic chaos and massive inflation. Tensions between the communists and the fascists were fierce. Both parties had substantial seats in the national parliament -- the Reichstag.
On February 27, 1933 the Reichstag building itself was set aflame by arsonists. Germany’s newly-elected Chancellor, Adolf Hitler, quickly blamed the deed on his chief political rivals, the communists, accusing a mentally-deficient Dutchman by the name of Marius van der Lubbe of setting the fire. Van der Lubbe was tried and subsequently executed. Still many suspected something was amiss. The conflagration was so massive and so rapid, that the hapless van der Lubbe couldn’t have been a sole operator. Indeed, took 60 years before conclusive evidence surfaced that the Nazis had actually set the fire as a ruse for blaming the communists!
Germany’s new chancellor, Adolf Hitler, approached the aged president, Paul von Hindenburg, warning that their country was on the verge of a Bolshevik revolution and that emergency measures were required to handle the situation; measures Hitler assured him would only be temporary.
Reluctantly, von Hindenberg issued a warm fuzzy executive order entitled, Die Verordnung des Reichspraesidenten zum Schuetz von Volk und Staat (Ordinance of the Reichspresident for the Defense of People and State). Has that Vaterland Security sound to it, doesn‘t it?
The Verordnung suspended those portions of Germany’s constitution, which were equivalent to our Bill of .Rights – temporarily, of course. However, once the rights were suspended, power and control quickly took over. The Nazis shut down the dissenting press. Political rivals were "disappeared" off the streets and hauled off to Dachau concentration camp (ten years before the Endloesung (Final Solution) was determined at the Wannsee Conference!). Squads of SS began spying on all the potential citizen criminals to see whose ideas were not politically correct so they could be branded enemies of the state.
Shortly thereafter, on March 24, 1933, the Ermaechtigung Gesetz (Empoerment Law -- Law to Remove the Distress of People and State) passed the Reichstag 441-94, which gave Hitler the power to run things by executive order. In the avalanche of bad legislation was included the Heimtuecke Gesetz (Treachery Law), which made opposition to Nazi Party policies equivalent to treason against Germany. This meant you couldn’t criticize government policy without being an enemy of the state. This was in essence the very same argument being made by conservatives that if you oppose Constitutional violations by Homeland Security, you are giving aid and comfort to the enemy. The Nazis used this law to imprison dissenters.
Since the German populace had been disarmed, no one could fight back. An atmosphere of fear settled over Germany as the long night of the black shirts began. Everyone – Jews especially -- hunkered down, hoping that it would all blow over and get better. But it never did. Once constitutional limitations against abuse were suspended – for the good cause of defending the Homeland -- they never came back.
But We’re Not Nazis!
Oh, but we’re not Nazis. We love freedom. Really? When Hitler came to power, the majority of Germans hailed him as the salvation of Germany. They were the good guys, or so everyone thought. It is crucial to remember that the entire Third Reich was a totally legal event, including the Holocaust! The people voted it in. Even after the war, many Germans were still wondering what had happened those last 15 years.
Witness the worldview changes that have occurred since the radical left flower child revolution of 1960s. Americans have experienced such historical revisionism in schools that few can tell you what the Bill of Rights contains and why those rights are so important. America has been in a constant state of self-demonization to the extent that Constitutional rights are viewed as the obsolete product of dead white slave owners.
Communism is alive and well on college campuses. For thirty years college students have been fed a steady diet of anti-American propaganda, attacking capitalism and exalting socialism with an all-powerful state as the ideal form of government. Indeed, Americans have accepted most of the major tenets of the Communist Manifesto, thinking they embody the essence of a free society. Moreover, American students have been encouraged to think of themselves as citizens of the world rather than the U.S. The Constitution is seen as a block to the emerging need for environmental harmony and global governance.
Americans have come to accept the core belief of Postmodernism; that there is no such thing as absolute truth or morals. Since there is no such thing as absolute truth, there is no such thing as absolute law. It all depends on what your definition of "is" is and the law can be tortured to say what we want it to say. As such, it can be used to convict anyone who needs to be convicted, since their rights can be defined away because it’s all a matter of definition. Besides, many Americans believe that rights are something that are "deserved" rather than inalienable. And, after all, politically incorrect people don’t deserve rights.
The Bill of Rights itself is under severe attack by means of thousands of laws which curtail the exercise of the rights or end run its prohibitions. The Bush administration seems determined to abolish habeas corpus and to suspend individual rights at will, merely by definition of an enemy combatant. The list of abuses is virtually endless. Every day, American citizens are routinely having their rights violated thanks to some legal precedent, which was established early on – usually leaving them little recourse because the law has been distorted so badly and the system has been rigged against them. The slide towards money, power and control is proceeding virtually unabated.
In a free society, rights protect the individual from the government. In a dictatorship, rights protect the government from the people. If enough legal precedents for end-runs of all the protections contained in the Bill of Rights are allowed to continue unchecked, where will those precedents be taken by future leaders when all protections have been dismantled? What will stop the tyranny that will invariably follow? Nothing.

John Loeffler is host of the nationally syndicated news program Steel on Steel, which is produced by his wife Carol Loeffler. Both are career broadcasters, who met working for a major television network. Steel on Steel can be heard anytime at www.steelonsteel.com on the internet. Tape subscriptions are available from (800) 829-5646 or (208)765-8337.

Posted by Its Comming Soon @ 08/27/2002 03:43 AM EST

To Infidel (from above): Yes, Islam IS a religion of peace. Research it for yourself with an open mind. See what it's basic tenets are. I'm not here to preach, though. So pick up a book on Islam and turn off the CNN, MSNBC, FOX.

Posted by Shockwave @ 08/28/2002 06:41 PM EST

The Laws of Islam called SHARIA contain the most advanced and JUST system on this Earth. Man has never been capable of producing anything like it.

Ask yourself: Why are the New World Orded Nazi Elites so persistant in their efforts to stop Islam. Could it be that the Truth is their greatest enemy?Could it be that only ISLAM has the power to stop the Enslavement of all of mankind including both Muslims and non-Muslims?

The enemy of Muslims is the same enemy of Christions and all common people. As Shockwave said read a book on Islam, get one from a Muslim source so that it is authentic.
Find out Why the Elites fear Islam. Read the Qur'an; A book for Men and women of Understanding.


Posted by I found the answer @ 08/31/2002 07:19 AM EST

the word terrorism what is it,what is the true meaning of the word terrorism. these days nations should first look up the word in dictionary before labeling other nations as terrorists.

Posted by mission impossible @ 09/10/2002 04:22 AM EST

News of this Ummat interview was suppressed in the US. Between the time of its publication and October 7, the US apparently spent its time creating a fake "bin Laden" interview, using either a stand-in or morphing.

Daily UMMAT: You have been accused of involvement in the attacks in New York and Washington. What do you want to say about this? If you are not involved, who might be?

USAMA BIN LADEN: In the name of Allah (God), the most beneficent, the most merciful. Praise be to Allah, Who is the creator of the whole universe and Who made the Earth as an abode for peace, for the whole humankind. Allah is the Sustainer, who sent Prophet Muhammad (saw) for our guidance. I am thankful to The Ummat Group of Publications, which gave me the opportunity to convey my viewpoint to the people, particularly the valiant and momin (true Muslim) people of Pakistan who refused to believe the lies of the demon (Pakistani military dictator General Pervez Musharraf).

I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle. It is the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children and common people of other faiths, particularly the followers of Islam. All that is going on in Palestine for the last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the United States and Israel. There is also a warning for those Muslim countries, which witnessed all these as a silent spectator. What had earlier been done to the innocent people of Iraq, Chechnya and Bosnia? Only one conclusion could be derived from the indifference of the United States and the West to these acts of terror and the patronage of the tyrants by these powers that America is an anti Islamic power and it is patronizing the anti-Islamic forces. Its friendship with the Muslim countries is just a show, rather deceit. By enticing or intimidating these countries, the United States is forcing them to play a role of its choice. Put a glance all around and you will see that the slaves of the United States are either rulers or enemies of Muslims.

The U.S. has no friends, nor does it want to keep any because the prerequisite of friendship is to come to the level of the friend or consider him at par with you. America does not want to see anyone equal to it. It expects slavery from others. Therefore, other countries are either its slaves or subordinates. However, our case is different. We have pledged slavery to God Almighty alone and after this pledge there is no possibility to become the slave of someone else. If we do that it will be disregardful to both our Sustainer and his fellow beings. Most of the world nations upholding their freedom are the religious ones, which are the enemies of the United States, or the U.S. itself considers them as its enemies.

The countries which do not agree to become the U.S. slaves are China, Iran, Libya, Cuba, Syria [Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iraq, Sudan, Indonesia, Malaysia] and Russia. Whoever committed the act of 11 September are not the friends of the American people. I have already said that we are against the American system, not against its people, whereas in these attacks, the common American people have been killed. According to my information, the death toll is much higher than what the U.S. Government has stated. But the Bush Administration does not want the panic to spread. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the U.S. system, but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive. They can be anyone, from Russia to Israel and from India to Serbia. In the U.S. itself, there are dozens of well-organized and well-equipped groups, which are capable of causing a large-scale destruction. Then you cannot forget the American Jews, who are annoyed with President Bush ever since the elections in Florida and want to avenge him.

Then there are intelligence agencies in the U.S., which require billions of dollars worth of funds from the Congress and the government every year. This [funding issue] was not a big problem till the existence of the former Soviet Union but after that the budget of these agencies has been in danger. They needed an enemy. So, they first started propaganda against Usama and Taleban and then this incident happened. You see, the Bush Administration approved a budget of 40 billion dollars. Where will this huge amount go? It will be provided to the same agencies, which need huge funds and want to exert their importance. Now they will spend the money for their expansion and for increasing their importance. I will give you an example. Drug smugglers from all over the world are in contact with the U.S. secret agencies. These agencies do not want to eradicate narcotics cultivation and trafficking because their importance will be diminished. The people in the U.S. Drug Enforcement Department are encouraging drug trade so that they could show performance and get millions of dollars worth of budget. General Noriega was made a drug baron by the CIA and, in need, he was made a scapegoat. In the same way, whether it is President Bush or any other U.S. President, they cannot bring Israel to justice for its human rights abuses or to hold it accountable for such crimes. What is this? Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the United Sates? That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks.

Daily UMMAT: A number of world countries have joined the call of the United States for launching attacks on Afghanistan. These also include a number of Muslim countries. Will Al-Qaida declare a jehad against these Islamic countries as well?

USAMA BIN LADEN: I must say that my duty is just to awaken the Muslims; to tell them as to what is good for them and what is not. What does Islam says and what the enemies of Islam want? Al-Qaida was set up to wage a jehad against infidelity, particularly to counter the onslaught of the infidel countries against the Islamic states. Jehad is the sixth undeclared pillar of Islam. [The first five being the basic holy words of Islam (There is only one God in the entire universe and Muhammad is the last Prophet of God), prayers, fast, pilgrimage to Mecca and giving alms (zakat).] Every anti-Islamic person is afraid of jehad. Al-Qaida wants to keep jehad alive and active and make it a part of the daily life of the Muslims. It wants to give it the status of worship. We are not against any Islamic country. We do not consider a war against an Islamic country as jehad. We are in favour of armed jehad only against those infidel governments, which are killing innocent Muslim men, women and children just because they are Muslims. Supporting the U.S. act is the need of some Muslim countries and the compulsion of others. However, they should think as to what will remain of their religious and moral position if they support the attack of the Christians and the Jews on a Muslim country like Afghanistan. The orders of Islamic Shariah [jurisprudence] for such individuals, organizations and countries are clear and all the scholars of the Muslim brotherhood are unanimous on them. We will do the same, which is being ordered by the Ameer-ul-Momeneen [the commander of the faithful Afghans] Muhammad Omar and the Islamic scholars. The hearts of the people of Muslim countries are beating with the call of jehad. We are grateful to them.

Daily UMMAT: The losses caused in the attacks in New York and Washington have proved that giving an economic blow to the U.S.is not too difficult. U.S. experts admit that a few more such attacks can bring down the American economy. Why is Al-Qaida not targeting their economic pillars?

USAMA BIN LADEN: I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States. We are against the [U.S. Government] system, which makes other nations slaves of the United States, or forces them to mortgage their political and economic freedom. This system is totally in control of the American-Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States. It is clear that the American people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced to live according to the principles and laws laid by them. So, the punishment should reach Israel. In fact, it is Israel, which is giving a blood bath to innocent Muslims and the U.S. is not uttering a single word.

Daily UMMAT: Why is harm not caused to the enemies of Islam through other means, apart from the armed struggle? For instance, urging the Muslims to boycott Western products, banks, shipping lines and TV channels.

USAMA BIN LADEN: The first thing is that Western products could only be boycotted when the Muslim fraternity is fully awakened and organized. Secondly, the Muslim companies should become self-sufficient in producing goods equal to the products of Western companies. Economic boycott of the West is not possible unless economic self-sufficiency is attained and substitute products are brought out. You see that wealth is scattered all across the Muslim World but not a single TV channel has been acquired which can preach Islamic injunctions according to modern requirements and attain an international influence. Muslim traders and philanthropists should make it a point that if the weapon of public opinion is to be used, it is to be kept in the hand. Today's world is of public opinion and the fates of nations are determined through its pressure. Once the tools for building public opinion are obtained, everything that you asked for can be done.

Daily UMMAT: The entire propaganda about your struggle has so far been made by the Western media. But no information is beingreceived from your sources about the network of Al-Qaida and its jehadi successes. Would you comment?

USAMA BIN LADEN: In fact, the Western media is left with nothing else. It has no other theme to survive for a long time. Then we have many other things to do. The struggle for jehad and the successes are for the sake of Allah and not to annoy His bondsmen. Our silence is our real propaganda. Rejections, explanations, or corrigendum only waste your time and through them, the enemy wants you to engage in things which are not of use to you. These things are pulling you away from your cause. The Western media is unleashing such a baseless propaganda, which makes us surprise but it reflects on what is in their hearts and gradually they themselves become captive of this propaganda. They become afraid of it and begin to cause harm to themselves. Terror is the most dreaded weapon in modern age and the Western media is mercilessly using it against its own people. It can add fear and helplessness in the psyche of the people of Europe and the United States. It means that what the enemies of the United States cannot do, its media is doing that. You can understand as to what will be the performance of the nation in a war, which suffers from fear and helplessness.

Daily UMMAT: What will be the impact of the freeze of Al-Qaida accounts by the U.S.?

USAMA BIN LADEN: God opens up ways for those who work for Him. Freezing of accounts will not make any difference for Al-Qaida or other jehad groups. With the grace of Allah, Al-Qaida has more than three alternative financial systems, which are all separate and totally independent from each other. This system is operating under the patronage of those who love jehad. What to say of the United States, even the combined world cannot budge these people from their path. These people are not in hundreds but in thousands and millions. Al-Qaida comprises of such modern educated youths who are aware of the cracks inside the Western financial system as they are aware of the lines in their hands. These are the very flaws of the Western fiscal system, which are becoming a noose for it and this system could not recuperate in spite of the passage of so many days.

Daily UMMAT: Are there other safe areas other than Afghanistan, where you can continue jehad?

USAMA BIN LADEN: There are areas in all parts of the world where strong jehadi forces are present, from Indonesia to Algeria, from Kabul to Chechnya, from Bosnia to Sudan, and from Burma to Kashmir. Then it is not the problem of my person. I am a helpless fellowman of God, constantly in the fear of my accountability before God. It is not the question of Usama but of Islam and, in Islam too, of jehad. Thanks to God, those waging a jehad can walk today with their heads raised. Jehad was still present when there was no Usama and it will remain as such even when Usama is no longer there. Allah opens up ways and creates loves in the hearts of people for those who walk on the path of Allah with their lives, property and children. Believe it, through jehad, a man gets everything he desires. And the biggest desire of a Muslim is the life after death. Martyrdom is the shortest way of attaining an eternal life.

Daily UMMAT: What do you say about the Pakistan Government policy on Afghanistan attack?

USAMA BIN LADEN: We are thankful to the Momin and valiant people of Pakistan who erected a blockade in front of the evil forces and stood in the first file of battle. Pakistan is a great hope for the Islamic brotherhood. Its people are awakened, organized and rich in the spirit of faith. They backed Afghanistan in its war against the Soviet Union and extended every help to the mojahedeen (freedom fighters) and the Afghan people. Then these are very Pakistanis who are standing shoulder by shoulder with the Taleban. If such people emerge in just two countries, the domination of the West will diminish in a matter of days. Our hearts beat with Pakistan and, God forbid, if a difficult time comes we will protect it with our blood. Pakistan is sacred for us like a place of worship. We are the people of jehad and fighting for the defense of Pakistan is the best of all jehads to us. It does not matter for us as to who reforms Pakistan. The important thing is that the spirit of jehad is alive and stronger in the hearts of the Pakistani people.

- Source: Ummat, daily newspaper based in Karachi, Pakistan

Posted by The Truth @ 09/12/2002 02:29 PM EST

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President Bush: Clean Out the Nest of Likud Spies

Posted By: Rosalinda
Date: Sunday, 15 September 2002, 12:45 p.m.

Former President George H.W. Bush, a.k.a. "Bush 41," no doubt
vividly recalls the October 1975 Ford Administration purge, that
brought him in as Director of Central Intelligence, and brought
Gen. Brent Scowcroft in as National Security Adviser.

Bush 41 ought to counsel his son, the current President
(a.k.a. "Bush 43"), to launch a house cleaning to begin
the process of purging his administration of a nest of Israeli
agents of influence; who, if left in place through the end of
this month, will likely succeed in dragging the United States and
much of the rest of the world into a Clash of Civilizations war
-- beginning with Iraq -- that will sweep the entire planet into
the bloody maelstrom of a 14th Century-like New Dark Age.

The "cabal" of Israeli Likud agents is deeply penetrated
into the civilian staff of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, the
senior policy staff in the Office of Vice President Dick Cheney,
and in several crucial policy pockets at the State Department.

Some leading "cabalists" were at the top of the list of suspected
collaborators of convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard --
including Richard Perle, head of the Defense Policy Board.
Vice President Cheney's chief of staff and national security
adviser, Lewis Libby, was a Yale protege of Deputy Defense
Secretary Paul Wolfowitz in 1973, and served as his State
Department and Pentagon deputy in the Reagan and Bush 41

Other Israeli assets inside Cheney's office
include chief foreign policy aide John Hannah, who previously
worked for the leading Israeli think-tank in Washington, the
Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP); and Eric
Edelman, a former Wolfowitz deputy at the Bush 41 Pentagon.
Incest is the favorite pastime inside the Washington
Beltway, so the existence of this cabal might not shock many
jaded Washington observers.

But the character of this network is
that they have publicly declared themselves to be at the service
of the Israeli Likud regime.

Perle, Douglas Feith (current Assistant Secretary of Defense
for Policy), and David Wurmser (current executive assistant to
chief State Department arms control negotiator John Bolton) were
the principal authors of a July 1996 study for then-Israeli Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, which called for a "clean break"
from the Oslo peace process, the annexation of the Occupied
Territories, and the permanent destabilization of the entire Arab

The cabal has been dedicated to foisting this right-wing
Israeli foreign policy on G.W. Bush, from the first day that
ex-Secretary of State George Shultz took charge of "Team Bush"
in April 1998, and installed Wolfowitz and Condoleezza Rice as
the President's two chief foreign policy and national security
tutors. Wolfowitz promptly paraded the entire cabal, beginning
with Perle, down to Austin to sell G.W. on the (Israeli) policy
of war on Iraq.

So what is to be done? Let us start with a purgative first step.

The July 10, 2002 session of the Defense Policy Board, at
which now former RAND Corporation "senior analyst" Laurent
Murawiec delivered his diatribe against Saudi Arabia -- including
the call for American occupation and takeover of the Saudi oil
fields -- was recently denounced by Gen. Anthony Zinni, former
head of the Central Command, as an unforgiveable outrage. We
agree. The Pentagon official who bears line-of-command
responsibility for that infamy is Doug Feith.

Feith was one of the Netanyahu advisers behind the "Clean
Break" policy, and he repeated his total opposition to a
Palestinian state in a 1999 book, which he co-authored for the
Zionist Organization of America. His sponsoring the Saudi-bashing
session is consistent with every other aspect of his performance
at the Pentagon. He is in open defiance of President George W.
Bush's often-stated policy of a "two-state solution" to the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Feith's removal is not only appropriate, it is vital.

American foreign policy ought to be made by Americans
who do NOT have dual loyalties;
certainly not by people who have unambiguous single loyalties --
which are not to the United States.

Mr. President, let the Nest-cleaning begin.

Posted by Mr Clean @ 09/16/2002 12:30 PM EST

check it out, the cia already taught cnn how they want the news reported. i think it was five cia men who went to cnn offices to show them how to lie effectively.

Posted by aura @ 09/28/2002 12:19 AM EST

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