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New World Order Terrorist

by David Rockefeller

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

David Rockefeller

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."

David Rockefeller... Baden-Baden, Germany 1991


VOX COMMENT ANNOTATION: Once in a while I’ll throw an article like this into the mix to test our critical processes, to challenge our fraudulent notions of the necessity of evidentiary findings vs the extrapolated and reconstructed “real” history. Since the rise of information and communication technology we have witnessed the death of real evidence. And the birth of a new meta evidence. The sham state of journalism proves this. In a world where the same people who attack the towers, bomb the nightclubs and murder the Senators are the same people who sweep down moments after the blasts and crashes to “Secure” the crime scenes, extrapolation is really all we have left.

So forget about hard evidence - you won’t find any. Their biggest effort is in assuring that there is no evidence or that there is false or misleading evidence. They’re game is about maintaining plausible denyability, pure and simple. And if by some miracle, some hard evidence were to surface regarding the operations of these Illuminati assassination groups, they would simply cover it up. That is what they do - That is all they do. History shows that the hardest evidence in the world can be discredited in all of a second by the dark lying media and their cronies in the intelligence underground. A well placed comment such as, “What a Kook!” instantly resonates with the default position of ignorance in so many humans. Or they can simply cover it up with an emergency, “Terror Alert,” distraction to divert our gaze from that evidence. The fact is, is that they control the actual wreckage, seal it in a cordoned off and well guarded lab and simply alter the evidence, change it at will or destroy it if necessary. Its that simple - Its easy. And there is no one at a state or federal level who can challenge them.

What this site is all about, is challenging people to question everything they are sure is true and everything they are sure is false. Then and only then can people escape the stultifying thinking which is plaguing the humankind. If you don’t challenge your prejudices and ignorances you are more likely to be believing a complete lie and/or attacking the last remaining vestige of truth, than vice versa. Sometimes details are important - Sometimes not.

Go and try to get tape recorded evidence of the many covert illegal dealings that take place during these industrialist feeding frenzies - It’s not going to happen. Their principle effort is in guaranteeing no possibility of evidence. There will always be insular layers of intermediaries between their issuance of assassination orders and the lowly ex or current special forces unit who will carry out the hit. And even if the actual assassins were to ever get caught, deniability would of course still be maintained by any member of the conspiracy who is just two cells of distance from the other. This tertiary cellular nature of their organization structure is identical to the way terrorist cells are organized.

I am careful to make the truths of these matters explicit whether or not there was a tape recorder there to catch the evidence. The truths in these articles are fundamental, and are beyond any laughable notions of some fraudulent journalistic integrity. Journalism is dead. There is no integrity. It is a fascist society and the pigs who own the media are in on the scam. So in America it is ludicrous to excoriate someone claiming they may not have verified all their facts. In America there cannot be any expectations of a journalistic standard which simply does not exist. My work is beyond their definitions of “journalistic standards” and empirical scrutiny because there are but few journalists who have the breadth of education, travel, and experience as I do.

And, because I deal in the realm of the, “Paradigm Shift,” where anything is possible. Case in point my life. -

Weather or not there was a tape recorder to pick up Heir Rockefeller’s kind offerings to the world (sarcasm) I challenge anyone to prove that Rockefeller DIDN’T make the comment. Because all the evidence is screaming out that the is such a private globalist conspiracy, and it is right up in our face every day. You need only examine 40 years of our world to know that these Bilderbergers said those things. Whether it was said in one sentence or across a broad range of handshakes. Whether it was conveyed with a blink of the eye, an understanding or a pat on the back, or explicit verbal instructions, make no mistake about it, when this “Old Boy” network gathers in their secret chambers their objectives are as they always were, as they always will be - To conspire to tighten their grip onto power at any price.

voxfux

Viewer Commentary: 35 comments


I've seen this quotation before. It's on the Money Masters site on this page.

http://www.themoneymasters.com/article.htm

The authors of this site also produced a video concerning how money is created and the motives of the International Bankers. Personally, I've not seen it but do know one Monetary Reform advocate who has and have been told it is outstanding. Some commentary posted here adds credibility to that claim.

"I endorse the video because people should know what is happening. Dr. Malachi  Martin, former Professor at the Pontifical Biblical Institute and a close associate of  Augustin Cardinal Bea and Pope John XXIII; author of: The Windswept House; Vatican; The  Keys of the Blood, and numerous other books

As you know, I am entirely sympathetic with the objectives of your Monetary Reform Act....You deserve a great deal of credit for carrying through so thoroughly on your own conception,  which is I think somewhat different than mine...I am impressed by your persistence and  attention to detail in your successive revisions... Best wishes. Milton Friedman, Nobel Laureate in Economics; Senior Fellow, the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and  Peace. "

http://www.themoneymasters.com/viewcim.html

As well, the site as a whole is also very informative and excellently produced. They discuss many things that appear to be happening right now. One is the introduction of diseases and depletion of basic necessities to areas where resources are rich and the population is simply "in the way". One region mentioned is South Africa. Two years ago I was given an article which gave the statistics concerning the spread of Aids throughout that country. At that time some sixty odd percent of (native) women under the age of thirty were testing positive for the HIV virus. What that implies is that offspring from the majority of natives in that nation are likely to develop the Aids virus within the next decade, or (assuming any of these children live long enough) at very least pass the disease on to subsequent generations. Not long ago I was given information about the unnatural qualities of the disease itself, specifically, that it had mutated so as to alter it's genetic structure three times within the last fifteen odd years. Apparently it is the first disease on record to be doing that which raises the possibility that it may be artificially created. Given the statistics concerning South Africa and the resources there is it so far fetched to suspect the disease may have been introduced to specific groups within the region for the purpose of having them "remove themselves" to serve the goal of greedy men? Before answering that it should be pointed out that the tactic has been used before, and in North America to be exact. Once the ruling classes of the European nations determined that the native population of North America had little or no resistance to diseases well known on their own continent people who were already close to being disenfranchised in their homeland (tenant farmers working lands which had gone bad, unemployed factory workers, criminals–anybody who was now "useless" to the ruling elite of nations such as England, France etc.) was shipped over here with promises of "free land" to work. Here in Canada that "free land" turned out to be the Great Canadian Shield" (near to Kingston, Ont.), basically a bed of rock not capable of sustaining any crop of real worth. Their transport here was paid for by the same elite who placed them on vessels formerly used as slave carriers amid conditions so horrendous that about thirty percent of the "immigrants to be" died in transit. Did these people really care that diseases carried by these people would infect and weaken an entire population? Moreover, did they care that once they realized the scope of the effect this migration was having on both their lands and their overall health that a long and bloody war which decimated the population of the different tribes and whic has sullied relations between the races to this day would begin?

No, they didn't. That, was in fact, the long term goal. The fact that families with names like "Bush" and "Rockerfeller" controlling so much of our real wealth today proves that goal was met.

History repeats itself. It does so because people have never changed; only the technology has advanced.

http://www.themoneymasters.com/

Brian

Posted by Brian @ 11/04/2002 08:12 AM EST


You are all fools. Mechanisms are already set in motion that can not be stopped; the end of the wastes of this planet's resources will soon come to pass. The technology is already in place, far more quickly than our elders expected, so that only a minimal amount of chattel will be required to serve us, and We have the tools to end your infestation quickly. It is remarkable at how well the masses are already trained to accept our controls, and after We make our presence known to all finally after nearly a century of consolidation, the most compliant of the scarce numbers who remain will be allowed to service us. They will enjoy life probably better than they do now, as long as they know their place. You see, what we bring is a gift; your mind is too shallow to comprehend.

Although openly discussing this right now may lack some wisdom, you ignorant ones really are in no position to do anything, and it is somewhat amusing to poke you about and see your responses. You can scream out for others to awaken to us, but they will not, until perhaps they are dying in their own vomit and blood. And then it will be too late anyway.

Posted by Masonic Initiate @ 11/04/2002 11:23 AM EST


Heh. First poster here ever to this site. This site is pretty neato. So when is this new world order thingie supposed to take over? Not like I'm gonna prepare. Why? Remember that whole Y2K tiff? I've read stories of how yuppie stock brokers sold all of their worldly posessions to buy farms in the west and put all their life savings into these communes hoping to tave off 2000. But now its 2002 and I'm still here...heh.

"...Everybody wants to rule the world..."

Posted by Iluminutty @ 11/04/2002 11:36 AM EST


The Masonic Initiate is absolutely correct. The plans are to far advanced to stop. The plagues are being released. The thing the Satanic Masons, worshipers of lucifer do not realize is there is a higher power that is going to destroy them. His name is Yahshua Messiah (most know him as Jesus (sic)). We who serve him have no problem dying for him or seeing that they die for their god lucifer!
Jackson Stonewall

Posted by Jackson Stonewall @ 11/04/2002 01:50 PM EST


There is apparently an attempt by some to destroy the credibility of this site by posting messages like the one posted by the Masonic Initiate. This is obvious BS hacking. Please do not get lured into this and respond to this crap. Most of the information I have seen here has some validity. So stay with it. In the end truth will knock the brains out of falsehood.

Posted by James perry @ 11/04/2002 02:04 PM EST


Although definitely trolling, what makes you think my previous message is not role-played accurately? The wizard behind the curtains is not so funny in this land of Oz.

Posted by Maysoonik Ineeshiot @ 11/04/2002 02:32 PM EST


Kudos to Vox and MOST posters here!

As there has been solid extrapolation on so many of the unfortunate incidents world-wide of late, i encourage fellow truth seekers and peace-lovers to not overlook the penumbra mass media reports of the Russian theatre situation and how it relates to other ugly circumstances...

---> http://www.exile.ru/153/153010101.html

Posted by Es Verdad @ 11/04/2002 03:13 PM EST


You must feel like a voice crying in the wilderness at times, vox. "Masonic Initiate"s role-playing made my blood run cold (like the true wizard pulling the strings in his land of Oz)--The pace of the implementationof the plans seems to be stepping up--and I spend my work days w/women who talk about food and shopping--a daily battle to stay awake and not to succumb to despair--and to remember--to work at remembering--that this is ultimately a spiritual war going on, that miracles do happen, and that only Love endures--and that Love shall prevail. And to fight the good fight where ever it prsents itself in my life--and to be grateful for vox and for other posters to this site.
Peace, Kathleen
PS:Hitler's Thousand Year Reich lasted only for 12.

Posted by Kathleen Beatty @ 11/04/2002 05:03 PM EST


let everybody speak. freedom has more power than all the crazies. keep it free, vox.

Posted by ron @ 11/04/2002 07:28 PM EST


Have found this site difficult to resist. As though speaking from my own gut too, and was very on-target with Wellstone/senatorial assassination, the "door opening" article on terror, etc... hope you're wrong about mininukes but that's my feeling too.

However, suspect this quote is a fabrication. Honestly, where did you get it? This is one case where "the Internet" will not do as an answer. Please source credibly. Thank you.
Vox Comment Annotation: read above.

Posted by jackriddler @ 11/04/2002 09:14 PM EST


The masonic initiate is dead wrong. If this poster is really knowledgeable of the operations of the masons & the illumina, he would know that the powers they utilize are of a lower order than those of "enlightened" people, hence the attempts by HAARP, institutionalized religious propaganda, and the new "terrorist" trend. All one needs to recognize is that he/she is of the same mind and magnitude as that some refer to as god/allah/jesus or whatever you call it. When they realize that their own thoughts are the stage that sets all the circumstances & situations in the theatre of life, it is becomes easier to counteract the intentions of those that would do us harm. Don't fall into the "we have no hope" attitude, because it will only guarantee ruff times for yourself.

Posted by itonlytakesone @ 11/04/2002 10:34 PM EST


Thank you. Whether the "masonic" poster was real or not doesn't matter. His message was, either way, excellent in adding to the questions that need to be researched,with the Holy Spirit there to discern truth through reasoning, and not fear. That is the simple answer. Remember, "Love One Another" means one and all, in any religion, country, and family and in any time in history.
I thank you for waking me up. I will wake up others now.

Posted by Everybody's Mom @ 11/05/2002 08:48 AM EST


Add A New Comment ? Well, thank you, but I did - and I see it has disappeared.
It doesn't really matter who did it, as to me it is just shows that "free speech" and the right to express one's thoughts or opinions are still not won, even in this country.
I have noticed amongst the latest postings some who apparently are trying to discredit or denigrate anyone who is not immediately convinced of the information displayed on this site.
If you are so sure of yourself and of the veracity of said information, surely you won't resent a little "dissenting" opinion, just originating in my own thought ?

So, that's what I said, approximately :
I do not want to defend moneymaking, powerhungry people, but I feel not convinced that this is really authentic.
It would be about as stupid as Bin Laden taping his committee meetings and sending them to the CIA.

And I would like to add this comment now : more and more people are becoming aware of the potential the internet has for manipulating information and people's opinions.

Posted by born2live @ 11/06/2002 02:16 AM EST


Corrupt men are pushing for the New World Order. The Anti-Christ will appear, but Jesus Christ, will return and defeat the Anti-Christ, and Jesus Christ, the Messiah will rule this earth a thousand years. And then there will be a new Heaven and a new Earth in which rightousness shall prevail.

Posted by Steve Ford @ 11/06/2002 08:02 AM EST


Both of the Rockefeller quotes I have seen over the years. The first one is from 1994.
It looks as if the boys of the New World Order are moving on with their plans with the latest consolidation of power in the Nov. 5th elections, which may well become Black Tuesday for America and the world.
The dictatorship continues to take shape, but will the sleeping sheeples of Generica do anything about it. Americans will continue to take it up the rear. Apathy can be a terrible affliction.

If you put a frog in hot water, it will jump out. But if you put it in cold water and bring it to a boil, it will cook to death.
The spin masters and psyops boys of the mind control school of Edward L. Bernays, Madison Ave., the Tavistock Institute, et. al. has the masses doped on SEX, SCREEN and SPORT and they seemed content with that. Keep the fluoride in the food, drink and medication flowing.

The future maybe unclear except for more taxes, more repression, more threats from some rogue nations and more wars thanks to the Bush Crime Family.
Pogo said, We have met the enemy and it is us.

Here is a quote from John D. probably from the late 1800's.

"I don't want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of workers." ...John D. Rockefeller...

Posted by Roger Atterson @ 11/06/2002 09:13 AM EST


It may be difficult to stop this accelerating train of corruption and deceit of the NWO. Many have said that 2003 with be a terrible year. Wait around and see.
They have a virtual monopoly on the mass media which the ignorant masses believe in.
Somewhere in the late 70's while visiting an old friend, who is now approaching 102, told me a quote that may have been attributed to Nelson Rockefeller.

M=m3 MANIPULATION = MONEY times MEDIA times MANPOWER.

Hitler and Goebbels would be proud of what Bush and his fellow Nazis are doing. Hitler advocated a New World Order and the First Family of Fraud is perfecting it.
We can also thank, Prescott Bush, the grandfather of George the Warrior for supplying Adolph with the means for war during the late 30's and early '40's before FDR busted his operation.
It does not take a genius to see that something is definitely rotten in America.
As the Hegalian principle states:
Action, Reaction & Synthesis.
For the simpler minds, that reads
Set them up and knock them down.
The biggest threat to the planet comes out of Washington.
It has been said that the true power resides in Rome with the Black Pope, Hans Kolvenbach, a Jesuit.
And finally an item I heard in dicussions at the U. of Toronto in the late 70's
There is a shadow hanging over America, and it be from Rome.

Posted by Willaim Rife @ 11/06/2002 09:37 AM EST


And so we begin our journey to the New World Order as we look to Europe for the coming World leader that will be false peace to the World. Beware O US. FOR YOU WILL FALL MOMENTARILY AS THE GOOD BOOK STATES, THE STRUGGLE HAS BECOME MORE INTENCE AS BUSH HAS MADE HIS MOVE AND NOW THE OPPOSITION "MUST" MAKE THEIRS, BOTH DRIVING FOR THE SAME END RESULT-"NEW WORLD ORDER" COMPLETE DOMINATION!

Posted by Cuda @ 11/06/2002 09:40 AM EST


"Masonic Initiate's" posting is nothing but the ranting of a very, sick individual. Let's have pity on this pathetic soul (he probably hates that word) who is delusional as to who really has the power.

Whether or not he is who he says he is and he and his fellow "initiates" go about their agenda of spreading plague, pestilance and pure evil on the world, it does not matter for in the end, the truly good in the world will always win over the forces of darkness.

Boogeyman, you scare us not.

As to those who have doubts about what they discuss at CFR and Bilderburg meetings, just go to their websites and put "New World Order" in the search engine. The proof is there for all to see.

Posted by CS @ 11/06/2002 10:02 AM EST


I heard an interesting tidbit yesterday which got my old intuitional mind a'jumpin'!

Norm Coleman, successor to P. Wellstone in MN, was a boistrous anti-war activist at Hofstra University in the late-60's. Then he "saw the light" and turned Reagan Republican later on.

Given what we know about use of agent-provocateur during that period (see "CointelPro Papers" among other sources), the use of domestic political assasination here in the US over the last 40 years continuing up to the present, and the number of "ex"-intelligence operatives in our civilain sectors of government...

well, it's not too difficult to construct a scenario whereby Coleman is put into place, Wellstone gotten rid of, Coleman elected Senator.

Also, by the way, Minnesota has thrown out tens of thousands of absentee ballots for the late Sen. Paul Wellstone. The ones who voted for Coleman were allowed as valid.

Welcome to the Fourth Reich.

Posted by stu @ 11/06/2002 01:37 PM EST


Hey Dave R. The countries may accept a "new word order" but I damn sure guarantee the people won't!

Posted by A REAL American @ 11/06/2002 01:53 PM EST


Voxfux, you're doing a good job, and you are right to do so.
Masonic caught my eye, tho I read the other posts as well, because of the clarity of end purpose in mind. If role-playing, well done sir. If not, par for the course. I do not believe some quasi-deity will need to come down from the heavens to save me, nor do I need one, I'm quite capable of doing so myself.
Each and every one of us is so capable. Which brings us back to Vox's original post. Challenge all hearsay against the facts you've acquired. If you hit a dead end, acquire more facts and re-evaluate.
And act accordingly.

To role-play along with the initiate:
You've overplayed your hand, you owl-worshipping fool. Your masters are arrogant, inbred twits, and we will slaughter them like the weak strain they are. They were never fit to rule, much less serve, which is why they keep losing. Dumb ploys like 9-11 are nothing but cardboard rockets: pomp and circumstance; the only thing your pimps know. Technology and mind-control will not save you, for men who have known freedom will accept no subsitute, and do not fear plague. Survival is easy to those who know what's coming. We don't rely on ignorant masses, but you do. If and when the war comes, when the top of Rockefeller's head is splattered across the yacht club wall, you will be left to administer the "plan". You will fail. I, personally, will see to it. Because I value my life more than I fear your threats.
Take heart, fellas. Chumps like the masonic pussy will be all Shrub has to defend himself when the hammer falls, because the Army will desert, OBVIOUSLY. They joined out of patriotism, and when they learn the truth, they will leave as they entered, while stealing weapons.
In a display of immaturity, the brick-layer has proven how over-extended the globalists are: they can't even keep their punks in line.
Best news I've heard this week.
Again, good work, Vox (Populi).

Posted by tweak @ 11/07/2002 02:45 AM EST


What one must recognize is that this global warfare currently moving forward will result in a massive economic implosion never witnessed in the history of mankind. As we speak, the most powerful countries in the world are choosing sides; China and the Arab countries are buying Gold and Silver and dumping all stocks and currencies from the US and Great Britain. The US continues to print money to prop up a stock market ready to drop 50% of its value along with the FED dropping interest rates further and further. In the last week, the dollar has been tanking while Gold has been rising - even the Euro has been doing well and is now more valued then the US dollar. This transference of power is being consummated behind the scenes and banks such as JPMorgan and Bank of America and Citigroup are headed for financial ruin due to enormous off the book debts due to derivative transactions in currency and gold, among others. This has been reported and, even now, high level employees of these banks are resigning in great numbers - why? They know what's coming - financial Armageddon, and when it does Gold will rise astronomically, the dollar will collapse, and a world economic depression will ensue, allowing for the antichrist to rise... Ironically, China and the Arab countries will stand to profit mightily due to their gold/silver investments, while the fiat currencies will be worthless - time to think is now - get your house in order - vox is right on, but you must be prepared and see the big picture... The world as we once knew it, is no longer, and WILL NEVER BE AGAIN...
www.gata.org for more information.

Posted by Craig (MD) @ 11/11/2002 12:04 AM EST


Bless you, Vox. This Freedom of Speech site is sacred. I offer my truths to the pile.

I suggest that we simplify our lives. Stop relying on the dying society and economy we grew up with - it's not ours anymore.

Fuck the television and the newspapers and all organized religions. We each have a spiritual color that will blend into the rainbow of earthly love.

Love is the nature of the universe. The individual only finds love and truth through her own methods. Humans can only find truth by themselves. The groups of organized religions, political parties, governments, NWO's are creating group realities. Don't buy into any of them.

Keep putting the truth, and all suspicions, out there, Vox! What a brave dude you are. Once again, blessings to you. This offered in love and light. AV

Posted by aBanana @ 11/12/2002 04:57 PM EST


Worship the illuminati. It's best for your health. By the way, not all of us are reptilian, just the guys at the top.

Posted by Illuminist @ 11/14/2002 01:31 PM EST


Whether it's the illuminati, the catholic heirachy, the ashkeNAZI zionists, the mafia, the aliens or whoever (or all of them) they are still all part of the ONE. There can be no change of order nor healing of unwanted change without the ALL making that choice, unconscious as it maybe most of the time up till now. As the darkness rises the illumination appears in many forms but then can be seen (as we are beginning to do) as malillumination - bad light and slowly the shadow cast will be seen as it is - just a shadow. Through the valley of the shadow of death we are riding but it is only a shadow. And they know it. That is the weakness they cannot defeat with technology or propaganda, that is their real fear, that we will not be afraid and the moment of our turning from the face of fear, from the pyramid's eye is the collapse of their illusion, of the illuminazi.
peace is

Posted by Trismegistus @ 11/19/2002 05:31 PM EST


We are all mindless drones, controlled by a system that is ruled by greed. Things happen and we bow down and ubsorb all the bs.
We are controlled by them and they will never let go!

Posted by Rob @ 11/21/2002 01:43 AM EST


Good web site. . .
Where are the cyanide tablets?
Yes, believe we are now in the full embrace of fascism.
But,these are the suicidal elite.
OPEC and BP are looking for deals, acknowledging global warming. So there is some dissent --
Global Warming is probably the trigger for these boldest moves now. Bear in mind, I think the JFK administration knew about GW, pollution of our air, water, soil.
That was the moment when change had to occur.
When global warming becomes very obvious to public, they will be hunting down the elite. That's the moment the elite are preparing for. Nonsense about oil -- where are we taking it to, what are we spending money on, what are we using it for. Pull the cars over to the curb and leave them there. Keep $ out of the hands of corporations. Use small business.
Act when you hear the click.
Uninvent the dollar bill --
Bankrupt them. . .
Best wishes -- thank you --

Posted by spring @ 11/22/2002 11:45 PM EST


Wow! Finally someone with the balls to tell it like it is without pulling punches. What you write is ringing true, Vox ... but even if it were NOT true, we need more people willing to speak out and challenge the official stories.

I am amazed and disapointed that democracy and freedom are being handed over to these murderous bastards without much more than a whimper from freedom-loving people of the world.

Posted by Shawn Hines @ 11/27/2002 05:04 AM EST


Wow! Finally someone with the balls to tell it like it is without pulling punches. What you write is ringing true, Vox ... but even if it were NOT true, we need more people willing to speak out and challenge the official stories.

I am amazed and disappointed that democracy and freedom are being handed over to these murderous bastards without much more than a whimper from freedom-loving people of the world.

Posted by Shawn Hines @ 11/27/2002 05:04 AM EST


Pardon the double posting ... I tried to stop it and correct a mis-spelled word ...

Posted by Shawn Hines @ 11/27/2002 05:06 AM EST


Rumor Mill News Is Under Attack!
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As I said, it similar, it is NOT the same thing. What this means for our readers is that sometimes you will be able to access everything, and sometimes you won't be able to. If you receive a message that says, "Internal Server Error 500", try again in a few moments and you may get through.

The RMNews Updates is still up, as are many other areas, such as the OUTPOST, Breaking News, News Links, and our links to other webpages. Scroll down this page and you will see the regular front page of Rumor Mill News, and most of the links will work! The current attack appears to be directed at the RMNews Forum AND my administration areas, in other words, the links that allow us to make changes in the webpage OR fix the Forum.

I know who the underlings are who are behind this current attack. They work for the NWO... in particular the Zionist/Hawk section of our Government. They have tried to disrupt, pervert and destroy Rumor Mill News once before. They have also tried to subvert our loyal agents and turn them against us! They are back at work with a vengence! They have been cloning my rayelan@rumormillnews.com email address and using it to send messages to our agents. Due to the problems in my own life as well as the problems with the webpage, I am emailing very few people right now. If you have received a strange email message from me in the last three or four days, please forward it to me so I can let you know if it is REALLY from me, or if it is one of the "clones". Please also realize that they are using my email address to send viruses to people who have posted on the RMNews Updates.

When Rumor Mill has been disrupted in the past, major intel operations have been launched, and/or "terrorists" have attacked the United States. The last major disruption to the Rumor Mill News Forum took place shortly before 9.11. If the government is behind this, and I have every reason to suspect this, it is my feeling that something is just about to happen. One of our Agents posted a newsletter from Karen Lee Bixman on the Forum. I was going to email it to the RMNews Updates and put a link to it here. But I waited too long, and haven't been able to pull up the forum again to access the article. Hopefully this agent, will see this and email Karen's letter as well as the other information he just posted to: RMNEWS_DAILY_EMAILS@YAHOOGROUPS.COM

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This Thanksgiving, make sure to say prayers for the survival of our way of life.

Posted by Rumor Mill News Is Under Attack! @ 11/27/2002 05:33 PM EST


Rumor Mill News Is Under Attack!
We are currently experiencing something that is similar to a "Denial Of Service Attack".
As I said, it similar, it is NOT the same thing. What this means for our readers is that sometimes you will be able to access everything, and sometimes you won't be able to. If you receive a message that says, "Internal Server Error 500", try again in a few moments and you may get through.

The RMNews Updates is still up, as are many other areas, such as the OUTPOST, Breaking News, News Links, and our links to other webpages. Scroll down this page and you will see the regular front page of Rumor Mill News, and most of the links will work! The current attack appears to be directed at the RMNews Forum AND my administration areas, in other words, the links that allow us to make changes in the webpage OR fix the Forum.

I know who the underlings are who are behind this current attack. They work for the NWO... in particular the Zionist/Hawk section of our Government. They have tried to disrupt, pervert and destroy Rumor Mill News once before. They have also tried to subvert our loyal agents and turn them against us! They are back at work with a vengence! They have been cloning my rayelan@rumormillnews.com email address and using it to send messages to our agents. Due to the problems in my own life as well as the problems with the webpage, I am emailing very few people right now. If you have received a strange email message from me in the last three or four days, please forward it to me so I can let you know if it is REALLY from me, or if it is one of the "clones". Please also realize that they are using my email address to send viruses to people who have posted on the RMNews Updates.

When Rumor Mill has been disrupted in the past, major intel operations have been launched, and/or "terrorists" have attacked the United States. The last major disruption to the Rumor Mill News Forum took place shortly before 9.11. If the government is behind this, and I have every reason to suspect this, it is my feeling that something is just about to happen. One of our Agents posted a newsletter from Karen Lee Bixman on the Forum. I was going to email it to the RMNews Updates and put a link to it here. But I waited too long, and haven't been able to pull up the forum again to access the article. Hopefully this agent, will see this and email Karen's letter as well as the other information he just posted to: RMNEWS_DAILY_EMAILS@YAHOOGROUPS.COM

ATTENTION ALL RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENTS
If you are lucky enough to be able to access the READING ROOM - aka the RMNews Forum; PLEASE also send your article to: RMNEWS_DAILY_EMAILS@YAHOOGROUPS.COM . If you can't access the RMNews Forum, please email all your news to the above email address. This way, we can be assured that our readers will be kept up to the minute on breaking news... such as Henry Kissinger being appointed to head the committee to investigate 9.11. I guess we NOW know for sure that we will NEVER be told the truth about 9.11! In my opinion, and the opinion of many loyal Americans, appointing Kissinger to this position is the WORST injury that has happened to the United States since 9.11. Needless to say, Kissinger is also part of the Zionist/Hawk group that is currently behind the assault of Rumor Mill News and having him in charge of the 9.11 investigation is like putting the FOX in charge of the chicken coop!

This Thanksgiving, make sure to say prayers for the survival of our way of life.

Posted by Rumor Mill News Is Under Attack! @ 11/27/2002 05:33 PM EST


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steveseymour/wecontrolamerica/mombasa.html

Mossad Bombs Paradise Hotel in Mombasa
The precise anatomy of an attack that only "looked like" it was targeted on Jews

Copyright Joe Vialls, 30 November 2002





On 28 November it was reported that “al Qaeda” had blown up the Israeli Paradise Hotel at Kikambala Beach near Mombasa, and synchronously launched a missile attack on an Arkia Airlines Boeing 757, taking off from Mombasa Airport en-route for Tel Aviv with 264 Israeli passengers on board. There was wild media talk of outstanding Israeli bravery in the face of these horrifying Muslim atrocities, but in reality the entire “dual attack” was a lookalike invented by the Mossad, designed to deflect attention away growing anger in Indonesia about direct CIA and Mossad involvement in the 12 October bombing of Kuta Beach in Bali. More about this motive later in the report, but first let us use real-time and photographic evidence to prove this deliberate Israeli illusion.
The first proof that the Kikambala Beach operation was a covert Israeli sting, came less than an hour after the massive bomb blast, with a tame television anchorman in New York repeatedly asking a reporter at the Paradise hotel about “the other attack on the Israeli airliner taking off from Mombasa.” The timing of these questions was impossible, because the pilots aboard the Arkia Airlines Boeing 757 had not reported any incident. Serving as proof of this critical omission, there is no record of any “Mayday” or “Pan” call on the Kenyan air traffic control tapes at any time on 28 November 2002. So now we know the New York media was deliberately telling us about a mid-air incident which never occurred.
Simultaneously at the Paradise Hotel, hordes of Israeli tourists were filmed sitting on top of their heavy suitcases more than 200 meters away from the building. Nearly every reader is conversant with hotel evacuation drills. You are told repeatedly that “human life is important, possessions are not”. This priority never changes, with standard emergency instructions worldwide urging patrons to “Stay calm, check the room to ensure no-one is left, leave your belongings where they are, and walk briskly to your assembly point – do not run.” Nowhere in the rules is there any instruction to risk the lives of your children and yourself, by slowly and laboriously dragging a fifty-pound suitcase more than two hundred meters towards the beach.
The tourists sitting calmly on their suitcases at the beach, is explained by the fact that the Paradise Hotel is a “turnkey” operation, one-hundred-percent owned by the Israelis and thus under their complete control. You cannot walk in off the street and book a room, because the entire hotel is reserved strictly for Israeli tourists, including a sizeable number of Mossad operatives on “Rest and Recuperation”. This was a controlled operation from the start, with nearly all of the Israeli guests cleared away from the buildings before the charges were detonated.







Next, Mossad agents led the compliant Kenyan media to a spot just outside the Mombasa Airport perimeter fence, and showed journalists the “discarded launch tubes” of two shoulder-launched surface-to-air heat seeking missiles, allegedly fired at the Arkia Boeing 757 as it passed overhead at 500 feet. They were real launch tubes complete with pistol grips designed to fire the SA-7b “Strela” missile, but minus the heavy battery packs which the “Arab terrorists” inexplicably decided to run away with. Believe me, there is no way you can fire the Strela without its heavy battery pack. The launch tubes had also been resprayed brilliant sky-blue, a color which provides excellent contrast for media location and recording on Betamax video, but is absurd for operational use. The only colors the Strela is issued in from the factory, are camouflage khaki or olive drab.
The SA-7b Strela is an infra red heat seeker that locks onto hot engine exhaust gases, and will rush off at Mach 1.75 to kill any aircraft [without active magnesium flare protection] that flies within its slant range of 3 miles. Immediately after launch the equipment operator becomes irrelevant, with the missile doing the rest all by itself. Sure it sometimes has a bit of a problem with helicopters which deflect their hot engine gases up through the rotor blades, but the huge gaping red-hot engine orifices of a Boeing 757 at point blank range, are the Strela’s ultimate wet dream.
If one of these rather phallic missiles had actually been fired at the Arkia 757 from the Mombasa runway overrun area, it would have automatically and immediately streaked inside one of the 757’s irresistible orifices, and blown the entire engine pod off the wing with its powerful HE warhead. Two missiles would have blown off two engine pods, making the Boeing extremely difficult to control, to say the very least of it.





The sky-blue Strela launch tube "discarded" by Mossad near Mombasa Airport. Note total lack of residue in pictures left and right. Centre pic shows a real Strela with wide array of ancillary guidance equipment and power packs needed for launch.

Fortunately you do not have to take my word for this. Look very closely at the Strela launch tube photographs shown on this page. The launch and propellant charges of the Strela are very messy, and always leave a lot of dirty residue on the muzzle and exhaust pipe of the launcher after a missile has been fired. There is not the slightest trace of residue on either Strela launcher at Mombasa, proving conclusively that they were never used for live launches, and were thus placed in the grass solely as stage props to reinforce the Israeli myth.
No doubt a few avid television viewers might retort, “What about the Israeli captain of the Boeing? He said he saw two smoke trails from the missiles”. Really? It would be more productive to focus on exactly what the captain told the media, and whether his statement could be even remotely correct. The captain’s exact words were, “We saw two white stripes coming up from behind the airplane on the left side a bit above us.” As you will see from the photo of the Arkia Boeing 757 on this page, the aircraft is not fitted with rear view mirrors or a tail warning radar. No pilot sitting on the flight deck of a Boeing 757 can see “behind” the aircraft because rearward vision is severely restricted. With the “stretched” version of the Boeing 757 they were flying, the Arkia pilots would consider themselves lucky if they could twist around far enough to see their own wings. Nor would they have done so at this entirely critical point in the flight.
The aircraft had just rotated off the hot runway at Mombasa with a full load of fuel and passengers, and was at its most vulnerable. Lose an engine at this point, which means half your total thrust on a twin-engine Boeing 757, and you need to be a very slick pilot to get the airplane back on the ground in one piece at all. So beyond question, both pilots had their eyes glued firmly to the instrument panel at the precise time the captain subsequently claimed, “We saw two white stripes coming up from behind the aircraft…” You decide whether or not the captain was telling the truth, bearing in mind that he also claimed he “felt a bump”, inferring one of the “phantom” missiles had glanced off the airplane. On arrival at Ben Gurion airport in Palestine the airplane was checked for damage by television media, and not a single scratch or blemish was found on its immaculate paint work.
As previously stated, and apart from gratuitously trying to establish a direct link between Palestinians and the fictional “al Qaeda” in the form of CIA/MI6/Mossad “suspect” Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah, the motive for this staged Mossad “attack” was almost certainly to combat increasing dissent over the Bali bombing, with the intent of getting suspicious westerners back on side. The very nature of the covert operation provides several strong clues, as do the various stage props provided by the Mossad for local and international media networks





Imaginative computer graphics issued to the media by Mossad in the wake of the scam, to help viewers "understand" how this impossible attack was [not] launched. Note the two "al Qaeda terrorists" without guidance systems or battery packs!

At the basic subliminal level, you were supposed to acknowledge this “cowardly” attack by “al Qaeda” on “Israeli civilians” who were simply on holiday having a good time at “Kikambala Beach”, where the blasts were caused by a “suicide bomber” and a “car bomb”. You were repeatedly shown hundreds of feet of video film reinforcing this myth, with lots of waving palm trees, and distraught Jewish survivors sitting on the beach.
Surely the covert Kikambala operation subliminally reminds you of another “cowardly” attack by “al Qaeda” on “Australian civilians”, who were simply on holiday having a good time at “Kuta Beach” in Bali on 12 October? It is remarkably similar in many ways, right down to the fine details of a “suicide bomber” and “car bomb” The entire operation was designed to [hopefully] prove that poor Israelis on holiday suffer as much as poor Australians do, at the “ruthless” hands of “al Qaeda” and/or the interchangeable “Jemaah Islamiyah”.
Well, perhaps not exactly. More than one hundred Australians died at Kuta Beach, but only three Israelis died at Kikambala Beach. As if to make up for this inferior body count, you were told that “al Qaeda” had also fired two SA-7b “Strela” heat seeking missiles at an unarmed Israeli airliner. Poor brave Israelis, huh?
I am not callously ingoring the loss of life where local residents are concerned, it is simply a matter of not having accurate figures to use. To the best of my knowledge, approximately 100 Indonesians perished at Kuta Beach, while at least 15 Kenyans were killed at Kikambala Beach. Sadly perhaps, this heavy death toll will be regarded by the CIA and Mossad as irrelevant "collateral damage."



During the ten days immediately preceding the Kikambala operation, things had gone from bad to worse for American and Australian investigators trying to prove that “al Qaeda” and “Jemaah Islamiyah” were responsible for the Kuta Beach atrocity. On Monday 18 November, Indonesian Parliamentary Speaker Amien Rais said he questioned the validity of the police conclusion that "Amrozi" was the main perpetrator of the Bali bombings. Rais was supported by Deputy House Speaker A.M. Fatwa, who stated, "`My conscience says that he is not a key actor. I don’t believe that Amrozi has the capability to make all kinds of the preparations for the bombings, like setting off a kind of micro nuclear bomb in Bali."
These pointed observations by two of the most powerful politicians in Indonesia caused a storm of discontent across the entire nation, with most Indonesians justifiably claiming that the CIA and Mossad were responsible for the outrage in Bali. Then events accelerated rapidly, with politicians from Jakarta personally visiting Kuta Beach. This was followed by the sudden recall of the police general in Bali, who for weeks prior to this had managed to produce endless “Muslim suspects” for the Americans and Australians, at the same staggering speed a conjurer might pull rabbits out of a hat. But just like the rabbits, the Muslim suspects were just clever illusions. And so it was that quite suddenly, with their tame police general removed from the island and escorted back to Jakarta, the CIA and Mossad knew the game was up.
The risks involved in Bali finally being exposed as a joint CIA-Mossad operation are awesome, and far more dangerous in their own way than the multiple allegations about 9/11. Though many investigators including myself have proved with ease that nearly half the named 9/11 “hijackers” are still alive and well today, and that forged evidence was deliberately planted at the crime scene in New York, none individually or severally have sufficient hard evidence to prove that 9/11 was a premeditated scam launched by Judeo-Christian crusaders, rather than by fictional Muslim “al Qaeda terrorists”.
Bali is quite different. Because it is known that the only possible source for the weapon named by Deputy Speaker A. M. Fatwa is Dimona in Israel’s Negev Desert, this single atrocity has the easy ability to unravel the entire carefully-constructed post- 9/11 “War on Terror”, and its more recent oil-rich cousin, the “War on Iraq”. If you successfully unravel the Bali atrocity, and correctly pin the blame on the CIA and Mossad, you automatically expose both “al Qaeda” and “Jemaah Islamiyah” as organizations deliberately invented by these two related western intelligence agencies. Indeed, using this process you prove that the CIA and Mossad ARE THEMSELVES “al Qaeda” and “Jemaah Islamiyah”. Then, and only then, can you use modus operandi and due legal process to prove beyond doubt that the same two agencies were also responsible for 9/11.
This frightening possibility was a risk the agencies were not prepared to take, and the Kikambala operation was swiftly arranged to deflect attention away from the increasing anger in Indonesia. Unfortunately, there is a remote but worrying possibility that the lookalike Israeli attack on Kikambala, might have been designed to deliberately include propaganda enabling future “more sophisticated” attacks on the west.
So far as I know, this is the first time that either the CIA or the Mossad has actually brought you real television footage of an [unfired] surface-to-air missile launcher, with the obvious intent of convincing you that the fictional “al Qaeda” and “Jemaah Islamiyah” not only have access to such equipment, but are also willing and able to use it against unarmed civilian airplanes. The big problem, of course, is that this decoy missile equipment was deliberately placed in position by the Mossad, rather than any “Muslim terrorist” group.
Though I normally go out of my way to avoid causing public panic of any kind, now might be a good time to reevaluate just how necessary it might be for your wife, children or yourself to fly on commercial airplanes. If the CIA or Mossad feel the need to reinforce hatred and fear of “al Qaeda” or “Jemaah Islamiyah” at some time in the indeterminate future, there is now an odds-on chance that at least one of the future “terrorist atrocities” will involve a pair of [live] Israeli SA-7b Strela missiles hurtling up from the ground to join with your airliner in a deadly embrace, immediately after take off from New York, London or Sydney.

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Live Israeli Strela with Guidance & Battery packs

Probably coming soon to an airport near you..

Posted by Mossad Bombs Paradise Hotel @ 12/01/2002 01:23 AM EST


Dear Vox;
Seems that the top industrial countries around the world are now implementing laws that will eventually lead to a police state.

Posted by Woody from East Tennessee @ 12/05/2002 06:33 PM EST


Much thanks to the VOX site, and others such as whatreallyhappened.com and people like David Icke. You are all courageous and speak the very truth that will one day show itself to all the ignorant sheeple who have not the courage and open mind to even consider what is being said on sites like these. The internet is our last resort to the REAL news that is going on. Fuck cnn and the rest of the media as they are already controlled to censor many important pieces of information on our news. Whether it is the Bush Regime, Illuminati, Vatican, Zionists or Reptilians, they are all the same. Just like VOX said, same name, same bullshit - it is all coming from the same place and all are serving the same purpose, to fullfill the destruction of humanity and take control over this planet. We have all been lied to for thousands of years and have been controlled and almost brainwashed by the media. The very situations we have seen unfolding since 9/11, just to give you an example, have been preordained and strategically planned to bring us to our doom. Everything from psy-ops, including all these recent pedophile/kidnapping incidents to the sniper attacks and the so called "terrorist" attacks, threats of chem/bio warfare, future mass vaccination of the sheeple, and inevitable war with other countries, have all been planned. The least we could do now is know the TRUTH. So before any of you morons out there go and post another one of your pathetic messages like the one masonic wrote, pause to consider all these things and think that we COULD make a difference and try to stop what is going on. Or would you rather lay down and do nothing about it?

"Don't give in without a fight."

Posted by Metalman @ 12/07/2002 03:30 PM EST

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